Homophobia: Fun Fact

[JoeB131]

Homos claim that being gay isn't a "choice".

That just leaves: 1) genetics 2) mental illness

But psychiatrists say that it isn't a mental illness.

And no so called gay gene has been discovered.

That just leaves "Choice"

The gene that causes cancer hasn't been discovered yet, either.

Are you claiming cancer is a "choice"?

Cancer is a disease, so is that what you're saying homosexuality is now?

I'm always a little concerned when someone with a totally not-gay Avi like yours starts calling homosexuality a "disease".

I worry about what we are going to find in your crawlspace...

 

[Newby]

The gene that causes cancer hasn't been discovered yet, either.

Are you claiming cancer is a "choice"?

Cancer is a disease, so is that what you're saying homosexuality is now?

I'm always a little concerned when someone with a totally not-gay Avi like yours starts calling homosexuality a "disease".

I worry about what we are going to find in your crawlspace...

Nice try there Joe, but I didn't call it a disease, I was actually saying that you are calling it a disease by comparing it to cancer. Is that what you are saying it is? A disease?

And Joe, I'm a female, my avatar is quite appropriate and Troy is not neven close to being gay.

 

[Sunni Man]

Actually, I hope that science finds there is a aberrant or mutated gay gene.

That way homosexuality can then be classified as a disease and medical scientists can start searching for a cure.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I find it laughable that you point to evidence that proves homosexuality is not genetic in order to claim it is. Without even delving into the faults with the study cited in the article, the fact that only 52% of monoamniotic both have the same sexual orientation is actually proof that it is not genetic. The simple fact is that, if it is genetic, they both would have the same sexual orientation.

I think that it proves that there's a genetic predisposition. I suspect it's probably really 100%, but we have people like you who make people pretend to be straight when they aren't.

Like Rush Limbaugh...errrr. Jeff Christy.

You know less about genetics than you do politics, but I am willing to educate you on why you should shut the **** up. Let us assume, only for the sake of proving how stupid you are, that you are correct. If there is a predisposition to sexual preference in genes than that fact alone is proof positive that the entire thing is actually a choice. The evidence clearly indicates that people are able to overcome that predisposition.

If, on the other hand, sexual preference is not genetic, you are still free to argue it is not a choice.

Your option.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Homos claim that being gay isn't a "choice".

That just leaves: 1) genetics 2) mental illness

But psychiatrists say that it isn't a mental illness.

And no so called gay gene has been discovered.

That just leaves "Choice"

The gene that causes cancer hasn't been discovered yet, either.

Are you claiming cancer is a "choice"?

Are you saying cancer is not caused by smoking, among other things?

 

[JoeB131]

Cancer is a disease, so is that what you're saying homosexuality is now?

I'm always a little concerned when someone with a totally not-gay Avi like yours starts calling homosexuality a "disease".

I worry about what we are going to find in your crawlspace...

Nice try there Joe, but I didn't call it a disease, I was actually saying that you are calling it a disease by comparing it to cancer. Is that what you are saying it is? A disease?

And Joe, I'm a female, my avatar is quite appropriate and Troy is not neven close to being gay.

Dude, that picture looks totally gay. Honestly.

But that's not my point, really.

The argument is that the gene that causes something hasn't been identified yet proves that somethign isn't genetic... when in fact, we only know enough about genetics to get ourselves in trouble.

 

[JoeB131]

Homos claim that being gay isn't a "choice".

That just leaves: 1) genetics 2) mental illness

But psychiatrists say that it isn't a mental illness.

And no so called gay gene has been discovered.

That just leaves "Choice"

The gene that causes cancer hasn't been discovered yet, either.

Are you claiming cancer is a "choice"?

Are you saying cancer is not caused by smoking, among other things?

I'm saying that can be a contributing cause.

But there are guys who smoked and live to their 90's.

There are people like my dad who smoked and died of lung cancer in their 50's.

 

[Jimmy_Jam]

Why is it that two women engaging in sexual behavior with one another doesn't have the same visceral reaction in most observers as with two men? Hell, most red-blooded American heterosexual men I know LOVE a little girl-on-girl action.

Just wonderin'.

 

[Toro]

I find it laughable that you point to evidence that proves homosexuality is not genetic in order to claim it is. Without even delving into the faults with the study cited in the article, the fact that only 52% of monoamniotic both have the same sexual orientation is actually proof that it is not genetic. The simple fact is that, if it is genetic, they both would have the same sexual orientation.

I think that it proves that there's a genetic predisposition. I suspect it's probably really 100%, but we have people like you who make people pretend to be straight when they aren't.

Like Rush Limbaugh...errrr. Jeff Christy.

You know less about genetics than you do politics, but I am willing to educate you on why you should shut the **** up. Let us assume, only for the sake of proving how stupid you are, that you are correct. If there is a predisposition to sexual preference in genes than that fact alone is proof positive that the entire thing is actually a choice. The evidence clearly indicates that people are able to overcome that predisposition.

If, on the other hand, sexual preference is not genetic, you are still free to argue it is not a choice.

Your option.

If homosexuality is a choice, become aroused thinking about a man.

Walk the talk.

Otherwise, admit this argument wrong.

 

[JoeB131]

I find it laughable that you point to evidence that proves homosexuality is not genetic in order to claim it is. Without even delving into the faults with the study cited in the article, the fact that only 52% of monoamniotic both have the same sexual orientation is actually proof that it is not genetic. The simple fact is that, if it is genetic, they both would have the same sexual orientation.

I think that it proves that there's a genetic predisposition. I suspect it's probably really 100%, but we have people like you who make people pretend to be straight when they aren't.

Like Rush Limbaugh...errrr. Jeff Christy.

You know less about genetics than you do politics, but I am willing to educate you on why you should shut the **** up. Let us assume, only for the sake of proving how stupid you are, that you are correct. If there is a predisposition to sexual preference in genes than that fact alone is proof positive that the entire thing is actually a choice. The evidence clearly indicates that people are able to overcome that predisposition.

If, on the other hand, sexual preference is not genetic, you are still free to argue it is not a choice.

Your option.

Guy, you support a crazy man form Texas who only served in the Congress because the people in his home town didn't want him practicing medicine.... Your politics are the politics of batshit.

If there is a predisposition, that's genetics. Yes, there are gay folks who pretend to be straight and are miserable their whole lives. There are straight guys who rape other men in prison as a form of dominance, because, hey, that's all that's available and it's that kind of place.

That said, why should anyone try to be something because of what YOU want?

 

[Quantum Windbag]

The gene that causes cancer hasn't been discovered yet, either.

Are you claiming cancer is a "choice"?

Are you saying cancer is not caused by smoking, among other things?

I'm saying that can be a contributing cause.

But there are guys who smoked and live to their 90's.

There are people like my dad who smoked and died of lung cancer in their 50's.

The AMA disagrees with you.

Unless you can bring in scientific evidence that disproves decades of scientific studies, you are talking out of your ass.

For the record, the fact that some people do not get cancer even if they smoke anymore than than some people not getting the flu is not proof that the flu is not caused by germs.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I think that it proves that there's a genetic predisposition. I suspect it's probably really 100%, but we have people like you who make people pretend to be straight when they aren't.

Like Rush Limbaugh...errrr. Jeff Christy.

You know less about genetics than you do politics, but I am willing to educate you on why you should shut the **** up. Let us assume, only for the sake of proving how stupid you are, that you are correct. If there is a predisposition to sexual preference in genes than that fact alone is proof positive that the entire thing is actually a choice. The evidence clearly indicates that people are able to overcome that predisposition.

If, on the other hand, sexual preference is not genetic, you are still free to argue it is not a choice.

Your option.

If homosexuality is a choice, become aroused thinking about a man.

Walk the talk.

Otherwise, admit this argument wrong.

Funny, I am pretty sure I just pointed out that Joe is the one trying to argue that homosexuality is a choice.

That said, I can easily point out that the fact that some people do not get aroused by the same sex is not actually proof it is not a choice. If it worked that way, the fact that some people would never vote for a Republican no matter what would conclusively prove that political affiliation is not a choice.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I think that it proves that there's a genetic predisposition. I suspect it's probably really 100%, but we have people like you who make people pretend to be straight when they aren't.

Like Rush Limbaugh...errrr. Jeff Christy.

You know less about genetics than you do politics, but I am willing to educate you on why you should shut the **** up. Let us assume, only for the sake of proving how stupid you are, that you are correct. If there is a predisposition to sexual preference in genes than that fact alone is proof positive that the entire thing is actually a choice. The evidence clearly indicates that people are able to overcome that predisposition.

If, on the other hand, sexual preference is not genetic, you are still free to argue it is not a choice.

Your option.

Guy, you support a crazy man form Texas who only served in the Congress because the people in his home town didn't want him practicing medicine.... Your politics are the politics of batshit.

If there is a predisposition, that's genetics. Yes, there are gay folks who pretend to be straight and are miserable their whole lives. There are straight guys who rape other men in prison as a form of dominance, because, hey, that's all that's available and it's that kind of place.

That said, why should anyone try to be something because of what YOU want?

I do? Where did you get that from? The only politician I ever came out in support of on this board is from New Mexico, smokes weed, and has never practiced medicine in his life.

Once again, if there is a predisposition, but people turn out to be something else, what causes that? They have to make a choice.

 

[Toro]

You know less about genetics than you do politics, but I am willing to educate you on why you should shut the **** up. Let us assume, only for the sake of proving how stupid you are, that you are correct. If there is a predisposition to sexual preference in genes than that fact alone is proof positive that the entire thing is actually a choice. The evidence clearly indicates that people are able to overcome that predisposition.

If, on the other hand, sexual preference is not genetic, you are still free to argue it is not a choice.

Your option.

If homosexuality is a choice, become aroused thinking about a man.

Walk the talk.

Otherwise, admit this argument wrong.

Funny, I am pretty sure I just pointed out that Joe is the one trying to argue that homosexuality is a choice.

That said, I can easily point out that the fact that some people do not get aroused by the same sex is not actually proof it is not a choice. If it worked that way, the fact that some people would never vote for a Republican no matter what would conclusively prove that political affiliation is not a choice.

I apologize for the graphic description, but I don't know how to describe it otherwise.

Sexual impulse is hardwired and is not choice. What you act upon is a choice. What you are responding to is not. Sexual impulse is not a cognitive response any more than your heart beating is a cognitive response.

This is why I ask you (or anyone who argues sexuality is a choice) to become aroused thinking about someone of your sex. If you can't do it, it's not a choice. It's not a choice like choosing between putting jam or honey on your toast, or deciding whether or not to go to the mall today. If sexual impulses were a choice, then you should be able to "choose" to become sexually aroused by a man if you are a heterosexual male. I can't anymore than I can a 90 year-old woman, a goat, or a toaster oven. If sexuality were a choice, you should be able to choose to become sexually aroused by a whole number of things. But since sexuality isn't a cognitive process, you can't. It's hardwired.

 

[Mad Scientist]

Religiphobes who try to lower Man to the same level of Animals need to be ignored.

 

[daveman]

Cancer is a disease, so is that what you're saying homosexuality is now?

I'm always a little concerned when someone with a totally not-gay Avi like yours starts calling homosexuality a "disease".

I worry about what we are going to find in your crawlspace...

Nice try there Joe, but I didn't call it a disease, I was actually saying that you are calling it a disease by comparing it to cancer. Is that what you are saying it is? A disease?

And Joe, I'm a female, my avatar is quite appropriate and Troy is not neven close to being gay.

Maybe he thinks your avvie is gay not due to your reaction to it -- but to his...?

 

[varelse]

Homos claim that being gay isn't a "choice".

That just leaves: 1) genetics 2) mental illness

But psychiatrists say that it isn't a mental illness.

And no so called gay gene has been discovered.

That just leaves "Choice"

The gene that causes cancer hasn't been discovered yet, either.

Are you claiming cancer is a "choice"?

Nice try.......but cancer is from a mutated gene; not a passed down gene.

cancer is a failure of the mechanisms of apoptosis (mostly), and can be caused by many things. Genes aren't there to cause disease. Also, all genes are mutated genes and 'abnormal' genes resulting in greater risk of cancer or other illness can be and are inherited.

 

[varelse]

Homos claim that being gay isn't a "choice".

That just leaves: 1) genetics 2) mental illness

But psychiatrists say that it isn't a mental illness.

And no so called gay gene has been discovered.

That just leaves "Choice"

The gene that causes cancer hasn't been discovered yet, either.

Are you claiming cancer is a "choice"?

Are you saying cancer is not caused by smoking, among other things?

'smoking causes cancer' is technically not a true statement. Doctors can never say what causes any given case of cancer and can only say thse who smoke (or who share other risk factors) are at higher riak for cancer (that is, they are more likely to develop cancer)

 

[varelse]

Are you saying cancer is not caused by smoking, among other things?

I'm saying that can be a contributing cause.

But there are guys who smoked and live to their 90's.

There are people like my dad who smoked and died of lung cancer in their 50's.

The AMA disagrees with you.

cite the ama saying nobody smokes for all their life without developing cancer or that nobody smokes and gets cancer by their 50's.

you appear to be in way above your educational- or literacy- level

 

[LuckyDuck01!]

There is no such thing as Homophobia. There is Homorepulsion or Homodisgust, but no actual horrendous fear of a person who has sex with another of the same sex.