Holy Crap! Mike Huckabee sounds like a Democrat

[Kevin_Kennedy]

If you are still focusing on getting third parties into federal offices, then you are a screwball. Local politics may be your best bet.

Why does that make us screwballs? You can't get rid of the Republican and Democrat duopoly by doing nothing.

 

[michiganFats]

My point is that by trying to take them on head on, on their own turf, you are effectively doing nothing.

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

My point is that by trying to take them on head on, on their own turf, you are effectively doing nothing.

We give those who are unable to choose between the Republicrats a real choice, that's not "nothing" in my opinion.

 

[DiveCon]

We give those who are unable to choose between the Republicrats a real choice, that's not "nothing" in my opinion.

Kevin, if you want to have a candidate build up a reputation, they need to run for a lower office and do a good job there before anyone will trust them in a higher office

 

[michiganFats]

It is nothing. What choice do you offer? Ron Paul. Biggest Republican internet fundraiser this past election cycle. Fox News, Fox News!...wouldn't allow him on the air. If you don't even have the pull to get Mr. Paul heard, after all he has done for you, then how can you claim that you are capable of offering any options at all? You're kidding yourself, and you need to learn to walk before you can run

 

[elvis]

Kevin, if you want to have a candidate build up a reputation, they need to run for a lower office and do a good job there before anyone will trust them in a higher office

wait, how does Obama fit that criteria?

 

[DiveCon]

wait, how does Obama fit that criteria?

he doesnt
but thats not what he was asking about
you cant run total nobodies as 3rd party and expect people to vote for them
not gonna happen

 

[elvis]

he doesnt
but thats not what he was asking about
you cant run total nobodies as 3rd party and expect people to vote for them
not gonna happen

part of that is they aren't allowed at the debates.

 

[michiganFats]

Elvis, great point. Unfortunately, It has been decided that the rabble cannot participate in state functions.

 

[DiveCon]

part of that is they aren't allowed at the debates.

thats a catch-22
they arent allowed in the debates because they dont have the support, yet how do you get the support if you cant get on the national debates

sucks for them
it would help them to run for lower offices and get the name recognition first

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

Kevin, if you want to have a candidate build up a reputation, they need to run for a lower office and do a good job there before anyone will trust them in a higher office

I agree with that, we need more Independents and third parties running for local and state positions. However, the GOP and Democrats need to be challenged at every level, local, state, and federal.

 

[DiveCon]

I agree with that, we need more Independents and third parties running for local and state positions. However, the GOP and Democrats need to be challenged at every level, local, state, and federal.

why waste your money going for offices you don't have a snowballs chance in hell of winning
concentrate on the ones you can first

 

[Old Rocks]

Scholarships for what? Basket Weaving?

Typical anti-education far right wingnut attitude. We don't need no damn engineers or doctors, what the hell do them pointy heads know, anyhow?

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Once upon a time, George Washington warned us about such a time in his farewell address.

The Republican Party has been hijacked by the Christian right more then anything. Which is why someone like Romney who is the Republican's best bet will never get the nomination. Too many of them choose religion over policy. That's their choice though, you get what you vote for as a majority.

The Libertarian party could emerge and overtake the Republican party but they hold too many extreme views for too many people. Which is why Ron Paul didn't get anywhere near the nomination.

My guess is that within the next ten years; a third party will emerge that is truly Conservative and not basing it's party issues off on religion. Which basically means: The Christian Right of the Republican Party and The Conservative wing of the Republican party are splitting up.

Personally though? I dislike political parties in general and believe they shouldn't exist. They encourage diversity and barriers between not only politicians but fellow Americans.

Fascinating... Would you be so kind as to break down conservatism and do so in such a way that it is shown to be distinct from Christianity?

(Now friends, we can be certain of three and ONLY three potential results coming from this direct and unambiguous challenge...

First: The member will ignore the challenge and for obvious reasons
Second: the member will respond with the usual secularist bilge wherein she further belittles Christianity and does so absent an actual response to the challenge.
Third: She lays out conservatism and simply ignores the inherent parallels.

Conservatism is Christianity and vice-versa... You don't have to BE a Christian to be a conservative, but you can't BE a Christian and not be a conservative. Where liberals and their gutless comrades the 'centrists, moderate, progressive, 'Christians' fall short is that they forget the principles of INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY and demand that the product of the labor of OTHERS be CONFISCATED to subsidize SLOTH; wholly disregarding the inherent elements of personal ACCOUNTABILITY which is an indispensible element of INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY; thus they look around and say poverty shouldn't BE, so we're confiscating YOURS to give it to THEM and if you reject our theft of that which you've earned... YOU'RE SELFISH.

The simple fact is that Conservatives are vastly more giving to those considered less fortunate than are Leftists and because leftists REFUSE TO PART WITH THAT WHICH IS THEIRS, they demand that SOMEONE ELSE be FORCED TO DO SO!

And THAT is the ideological rift... in a nutshell.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Typical anti-education far right wingnut attitude. We don't need no damn engineers or doctors, what the hell do them pointy heads know, anyhow?

Once again, a leftist confuses ideological indoctrination with 'education'... I've never met a conservative that was 'anti-education'; to the individual, conservatives are staunchly PRO-EDUCATION; where we differ is where the LEFT removes education for 'women's, gay and lesbian, various race and all of the anti-capitalist movements inherent in the enviro-whacko' "studies"...

These ' sociology-disciplines' are little more than anti-INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY indoctrination and are DESIGNED to substitute for the critical and true disciplines of the sciences and cultural necessities of history.

 

[Article 15]

The Pube wrote:

Conservatism is Christianity and vice-versa... You don't have to BE a Christian to be a conservative, but you can't BE a Christian and not be a conservative.

Yo, guy?

Non-conservative Christian here.

You're wrong.

Go back to the Loony Bin.

 

[Article 15]

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[PubliusInfinitum]

The Pube wrote:

Conservatism is Christianity and vice-versa... You don't have to BE a Christian to be a conservative, but you can't BE a Christian and not be a conservative.



Yo, guy?

Non-conservative Christian here.

You're wrong.

Go back to the Loony Bin.

LOL... Again Fellow board-members... note how the leftists is incapable of honest dialogue... she desperately wants to demand that she is a Christian and NOT a Conservative and finds she can ONLY DO SO within the scope of the sourced argument by IGNORING THE ARGUMENT:

Where liberals and their gutless comrades the 'centrists, moderate, progressive, 'Christians' fall short is that they forget the principles of INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY and demand that the product of the labor of OTHERS be CONFISCATED to subsidize SLOTH; wholly disregarding the inherent elements of personal ACCOUNTABILITY which is an indispensible element of INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY; thus they look around and say poverty shouldn't BE, so we're confiscating YOURS to give it to THEM and if you reject our theft of that which you've earned... YOU'RE SELFISH.

The simple fact is that Conservatives are vastly more giving to those considered less fortunate than are Leftists and because leftists REFUSE TO PART WITH THAT WHICH IS THEIRS, they demand that SOMEONE ELSE be FORCED TO DO SO!

It's easy to see why SHE CHOSE TO IGNORE it...

I'd ask the leftist, 'would-be-Christian' to simply answer the following: What RIGHT DO YOU HAVE TO THE PRODUCT OF ANOTHER'S LABOR?

You're perfectly within your rights to use the PRODUCT OF YOUR LABOR to any end that you see fit which DOES NOT USURP THE RIGHTS OF ANOTHER... Yet instead of using your life and the product YOU GENERATE to better the lives of others, you advocate for the confiscation of the product of OTHER PEOPLE...

Here's a clue... where theft is a popular notion, it remains theft and the ends by which the popular notion is sold, in no way changes that...

 

[Article 15]

Yo Pube, I don't care about the argument and how you rationalize things in that insane mind of yours.

I am a Christian. Baptized and Confirmed.

And I'm not a conservative.

Sorry we don't all fit in your pigeon hole.

 

[xsited1]

Were you just trying to be facetious? Huckabee has always been a Republican.

No. He's openly discussed this. He's written about this in several of his books, including "Character Is the Issue: How People With Integrity Can Revolutionize America."