Holy crap i just lit up a smoke at a bar

[Pop23]

Yes, yes they will move down the street and then everyone would be happy. That's how that works.

Not when nobody on the street allows smoking

All bars are now equal.....

It is amazing how bothered you are about what someone else is doing.

Once again you can't answer the point that a non-smoker in a room of smokers affects them in no way whatsoever, and that the reverse is not the case. So get off this contrived high horse about who's forcing themselves on who.

They're only effected if they choose to be there. A sign on the door is all that is required to deliver proper notice.

Most adults can deal with that.

Most adults can deal with a sign that says no smoking

And most did. It was the helpless adults like you that could not.

 

[Dot Com]

I am smoking at this moment. I quit 3 years ago. Obama-Clinton has left this world in a mess. Three friends just bought guns for the first time. They are at a shooting range right now. I never thought I would entertain the idea
of owning a gun, but perhaps it's time.










d

IOW's- you are a quitter in more ways than one

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[Dot Com]

I had to apologize to everyone and put it put..


Fucking asshole liberals

Hey, bring your own atmosphere next time. We're using this one.

^ that

I quit 3 years ago. Hate the foul smell now

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[rightwinger]

I suspect a deep part of it is psychological insecurity --- if you're gonna commit a heinous, intrusive, self-destructive act, you'd rather have other co-conspirators in the room doing it too so you can tell each other it's a reasonable thing to do. So you create echobubble cells.

A singularly selfish act it is.

If I were you, I'd stay out of private businesses that would allow such a thing, or start your own business and restrict it.

So easy.

The owner of a business is free to allow smoking in his own home

Once he opens a business, that business is subject to the rules of the community

Thanks, you do enjoy appearing helpless.

Looks like smokers are helpless

How so. Smokers don't demand that private businesses be regulated on their behalf.

Strange logic RW. Of course, you are helpless

They demand the right to subject fellow patrons to their filthy habit

Business didn't do anything so government had to

 

[charwin95]

Smoking bans have been in place for over a decade. Bars and restaurants have survived and people are still eating and drinking.

Only difference is smokers are sulking outdoors

16 states differ and it looks like one of yours may be changing. Try as you might, this was not a well thought out move. Especially considering you have bar owners that were not complying to keep their customers happy. They just ran over to Indiana where they can.

Public smoking is doomed. Smoking itself will be obsolete in a decade or two as vaping takes hold with younger smokers

Yes, but the nazi smoking police wants to ban vaping too!!!!

When I stopped smoking I started vaping

There is no way to make those people happy. Danm if you do, damn if you don't

What a life!

Look at this way. Other people are trying to save your life. That is if you care about your life.

No they are not. What gives you or anyone the right to make choices for others?

If a person smoke next to me......... It's my health that you are talking about. So it's also my right to express my concern.

 

[Darkwind]

16 states differ and it looks like one of yours may be changing. Try as you might, this was not a well thought out move. Especially considering you have bar owners that were not complying to keep their customers happy. They just ran over to Indiana where they can.

Public smoking is doomed. Smoking itself will be obsolete in a decade or two as vaping takes hold with younger smokers

Yes, but the nazi smoking police wants to ban vaping too!!!!

When I stopped smoking I started vaping

There is no way to make those people happy. Danm if you do, damn if you don't

What a life!

Look at this way. Other people are trying to save your life. That is if you care about your life.

No they are not. What gives you or anyone the right to make choices for others?

If a person smoke next to me......... It's my health that you are talking about. So it's also my right to express my concern.

If you are in an establishment that permits smoking, I have to question your honesty that you are concerned about your health. Might want to try that again.

 

[ChrisL]

Guess what I'm doing right now.

---- not smoking.

Are you 'offended'?

Not at all. Problem?

Correct. Because it has no effect on you.
Now do the math.

Drinking sure does though. You asked earlier is smoking the same as drinking.

The answer is yes. Neither is necessary, and both have second hand effects.

Drinking has more immediate second hand effects.

BZZZZT. I'm sorry that's not correct. They're not the same thing.

But you be sure to let us all know when you're pulled over on the road for having a nicotine level of .014.

I won't be pulled over for any nicotine level.

No one ever killed a family of 4 because of nicotine levels in their blood. They have after drinking in a bar.

No one has ever beaten or killed their wife and kids because they inhaled nicotine.

I guess in a way they aren't the same.

True but what is the big deal about smoking outside? It would be the polite thing to do.

 

[charwin95]

Public smoking is doomed. Smoking itself will be obsolete in a decade or two as vaping takes hold with younger smokers

Yes, but the nazi smoking police wants to ban vaping too!!!!

When I stopped smoking I started vaping

There is no way to make those people happy. Danm if you do, damn if you don't

What a life!

Look at this way. Other people are trying to save your life. That is if you care about your life.

No they are not. What gives you or anyone the right to make choices for others?

If a person smoke next to me......... It's my health that you are talking about. So it's also my right to express my concern.

If you are in an establishment that permits smoking, I have to question your honesty that you are concerned about your health. Might want to try that again.

Most places I go are non smoking....... Smokers are the minorities. You can't smoke inside the mall either wonder how many malls closed because of no smoking.
I do not allow my guest or family members smoke out side my houses. They can go smoke outside the gate or back at the dock but no ash or butts go to the water.

 

[Pogo]

I suspect a deep part of it is psychological insecurity --- if you're gonna commit a heinous, intrusive, self-destructive act, you'd rather have other co-conspirators in the room doing it too so you can tell each other it's a reasonable thing to do. So you create echobubble cells.

A singularly selfish act it is.

If I were you, I'd stay out of private businesses that would allow such a thing, or start your own business and restrict it.

So easy.

The owner of a business is free to allow smoking in his own home

Once he opens a business, that business is subject to the rules of the community

Thanks, you do enjoy appearing helpless.

Looks like smokers are helpless

How so. Smokers don't demand that private businesses be regulated on their behalf.

Strange logic RW. Of course, you are helpless

Evidently you're helpless to see this as anything but a "da gubmint" issue.
It isn't.

As I've been pointing out from the start here and in previous threads, it's not a "what the government can do" issue -- it's a simple human rights issue. You don't get to dictate what other people breathe. Just as you don't get to pee in the pool or shit on the floor of a restaurant. No difference.

 

[Pogo]

Not at all. Problem?

Correct. Because it has no effect on you.
Now do the math.

Drinking sure does though. You asked earlier is smoking the same as drinking.

The answer is yes. Neither is necessary, and both have second hand effects.

Drinking has more immediate second hand effects.

BZZZZT. I'm sorry that's not correct. They're not the same thing.

But you be sure to let us all know when you're pulled over on the road for having a nicotine level of .014.

I won't be pulled over for any nicotine level.

No one ever killed a family of 4 because of nicotine levels in their blood. They have after drinking in a bar.

No one has ever beaten or killed their wife and kids because they inhaled nicotine.

I guess in a way they aren't the same.

True but what is the big deal about smoking outside? It would be the polite thing to do.

Aye, there's the rub. Nailed it.

 

[Pop23]

If I were you, I'd stay out of private businesses that would allow such a thing, or start your own business and restrict it.

So easy.

The owner of a business is free to allow smoking in his own home

Once he opens a business, that business is subject to the rules of the community

Thanks, you do enjoy appearing helpless.

Looks like smokers are helpless

How so. Smokers don't demand that private businesses be regulated on their behalf.

Strange logic RW. Of course, you are helpless

They demand the right to subject fellow patrons to their filthy habit

Business didn't do anything so government had to

I'm not aware of those demands. Can you share them?

There were many establishments that were none smoking or has well ventilated smoking areas.

But to the helpless, I guess that's not adequate?

 

[Pop23]

16 states differ and it looks like one of yours may be changing. Try as you might, this was not a well thought out move. Especially considering you have bar owners that were not complying to keep their customers happy. They just ran over to Indiana where they can.

Public smoking is doomed. Smoking itself will be obsolete in a decade or two as vaping takes hold with younger smokers

Yes, but the nazi smoking police wants to ban vaping too!!!!

When I stopped smoking I started vaping

There is no way to make those people happy. Danm if you do, damn if you don't

What a life!

Look at this way. Other people are trying to save your life. That is if you care about your life.

No they are not. What gives you or anyone the right to make choices for others?

If a person smoke next to me......... It's my health that you are talking about. So it's also my right to express my concern.

You could leave?

 

[Pop23]

Not at all. Problem?

Correct. Because it has no effect on you.
Now do the math.

Drinking sure does though. You asked earlier is smoking the same as drinking.

The answer is yes. Neither is necessary, and both have second hand effects.

Drinking has more immediate second hand effects.

BZZZZT. I'm sorry that's not correct. They're not the same thing.

But you be sure to let us all know when you're pulled over on the road for having a nicotine level of .014.

I won't be pulled over for any nicotine level.

No one ever killed a family of 4 because of nicotine levels in their blood. They have after drinking in a bar.

No one has ever beaten or killed their wife and kids because they inhaled nicotine.

I guess in a way they aren't the same.

True but what is the big deal about smoking outside? It would be the polite thing to do.

Which I mostly did. I rarely smoked indoors. When I did it was in bars with outstanding ventilation.

Many times I was told, by smokers and non smokers alike that there was no reason to step outside, but I would anyway.

 

[ChrisL]

Correct. Because it has no effect on you.
Now do the math.

Drinking sure does though. You asked earlier is smoking the same as drinking.

The answer is yes. Neither is necessary, and both have second hand effects.

Drinking has more immediate second hand effects.

BZZZZT. I'm sorry that's not correct. They're not the same thing.

But you be sure to let us all know when you're pulled over on the road for having a nicotine level of .014.

I won't be pulled over for any nicotine level.

No one ever killed a family of 4 because of nicotine levels in their blood. They have after drinking in a bar.

No one has ever beaten or killed their wife and kids because they inhaled nicotine.

I guess in a way they aren't the same.

True but what is the big deal about smoking outside? It would be the polite thing to do.

Which I mostly did. I rarely smoked indoors. When I did it was in bars with outstanding ventilation.

Many times I was told, by smokers and non smokers alike that there was no reason to step outside, but I would anyway.

Well, there are people who suffer from asthma/COPD and other breathing/allergy problems that should be thought of.

 

[Pop23]

If I were you, I'd stay out of private businesses that would allow such a thing, or start your own business and restrict it.

So easy.

The owner of a business is free to allow smoking in his own home

Once he opens a business, that business is subject to the rules of the community

Thanks, you do enjoy appearing helpless.

Looks like smokers are helpless

How so. Smokers don't demand that private businesses be regulated on their behalf.

Strange logic RW. Of course, you are helpless

Evidently you're helpless to see this as anything but a "da gubmint" issue.
It isn't.

As I've been pointing out from the start here and in previous threads, it's not a "what the government can do" issue -- it's a simple human rights issue. You don't get to dictate what other people breathe. Just as you don't get to pee in the pool or shit on the floor of a restaurant. No difference.

Absurd.

I breath much cleaner air them those in most major cities. Yet, people crowd to the cities.

 

[Pop23]

Drinking sure does though. You asked earlier is smoking the same as drinking.

The answer is yes. Neither is necessary, and both have second hand effects.

Drinking has more immediate second hand effects.

BZZZZT. I'm sorry that's not correct. They're not the same thing.

But you be sure to let us all know when you're pulled over on the road for having a nicotine level of .014.

I won't be pulled over for any nicotine level.

No one ever killed a family of 4 because of nicotine levels in their blood. They have after drinking in a bar.

No one has ever beaten or killed their wife and kids because they inhaled nicotine.

I guess in a way they aren't the same.

True but what is the big deal about smoking outside? It would be the polite thing to do.

Which I mostly did. I rarely smoked indoors. When I did it was in bars with outstanding ventilation.

Many times I was told, by smokers and non smokers alike that there was no reason to step outside, but I would anyway.

Well, there are people who suffer from asthma/COPD and other breathing/allergy problems that should be thought of.

All the more reason to insist that businesses that allow smoking post notices on their doors

 

[Pop23]

Correct. Because it has no effect on you.
Now do the math.

Drinking sure does though. You asked earlier is smoking the same as drinking.

The answer is yes. Neither is necessary, and both have second hand effects.

Drinking has more immediate second hand effects.

BZZZZT. I'm sorry that's not correct. They're not the same thing.

But you be sure to let us all know when you're pulled over on the road for having a nicotine level of .014.

I won't be pulled over for any nicotine level.

No one ever killed a family of 4 because of nicotine levels in their blood. They have after drinking in a bar.

No one has ever beaten or killed their wife and kids because they inhaled nicotine.

I guess in a way they aren't the same.

True but what is the big deal about smoking outside? It would be the polite thing to do.

Aye, there's the rub. Nailed it.

Pogo wants rudeness to be a felony?

 

[rightwinger]

The owner of a business is free to allow smoking in his own home

Once he opens a business, that business is subject to the rules of the community

Thanks, you do enjoy appearing helpless.

Looks like smokers are helpless

How so. Smokers don't demand that private businesses be regulated on their behalf.

Strange logic RW. Of course, you are helpless

They demand the right to subject fellow patrons to their filthy habit

Business didn't do anything so government had to

I'm not aware of those demands. Can you share them?

There were many establishments that were none smoking or has well ventilated smoking areas.

But to the helpless, I guess that's not adequate?

Having a smoking area in a bar is like having a peeing area in a pool

 

[charwin95]

Public smoking is doomed. Smoking itself will be obsolete in a decade or two as vaping takes hold with younger smokers

Yes, but the nazi smoking police wants to ban vaping too!!!!

When I stopped smoking I started vaping

There is no way to make those people happy. Danm if you do, damn if you don't

What a life!

Look at this way. Other people are trying to save your life. That is if you care about your life.

No they are not. What gives you or anyone the right to make choices for others?

If a person smoke next to me......... It's my health that you are talking about. So it's also my right to express my concern.

You could leave?

If I'm there before a smoker. I hate to be rude but I will say something. Most of the time other people thanks me.

 

[Pogo]

Drinking sure does though. You asked earlier is smoking the same as drinking.

The answer is yes. Neither is necessary, and both have second hand effects.

Drinking has more immediate second hand effects.

BZZZZT. I'm sorry that's not correct. They're not the same thing.

But you be sure to let us all know when you're pulled over on the road for having a nicotine level of .014.

I won't be pulled over for any nicotine level.

No one ever killed a family of 4 because of nicotine levels in their blood. They have after drinking in a bar.

No one has ever beaten or killed their wife and kids because they inhaled nicotine.

I guess in a way they aren't the same.

True but what is the big deal about smoking outside? It would be the polite thing to do.

Aye, there's the rub. Nailed it.

Pogo wants rudeness to be a felony?

DOOD.

I have never brought up "the law" here. Ever. That's your obsession.