Holy crap i just lit up a smoke at a bar

BZZZZT. I'm sorry that's not correct. They're not the same thing.

But you be sure to let us all know when you're pulled over on the road for having a nicotine level of .014.

I won't be pulled over for any nicotine level.

No one ever killed a family of 4 because of nicotine levels in their blood. They have after drinking in a bar.

No one has ever beaten or killed their wife and kids because they inhaled nicotine.

I guess in a way they aren't the same.

True but what is the big deal about smoking outside? It would be the polite thing to do. :)

Which I mostly did. I rarely smoked indoors. When I did it was in bars with outstanding ventilation.

Many times I was told, by smokers and non smokers alike that there was no reason to step outside, but I would anyway.

Well, there are people who suffer from asthma/COPD and other breathing/allergy problems that should be thought of.

All the more reason to insist that businesses that allow smoking post notices on their doors

They do depending on the state and all neat like: This is a bar; therefore, there is smoking.
 
Yes, but the nazi smoking police wants to ban vaping too!!!!

When I stopped smoking I started vaping

There is no way to make those people happy. Danm if you do, damn if you don't

What a life!:mad-61:

Look at this way. Other people are trying to save your life. That is if you care about your life.

No they are not. What gives you or anyone the right to make choices for others?

If a person smoke next to me......... It's my health that you are talking about. So it's also my right to express my concern.
If you are in an establishment that permits smoking, I have to question your honesty that you are concerned about your health. Might want to try that again.

Most places I go are non smoking....... Smokers are the minorities. You can't smoke inside the mall either wonder how many malls closed because of no smoking.
I do not allow my guest or family members smoke out side my houses. They can go smoke outside the gate or back at the dock but no ash or butts go to the water.

It is absolutely right not to smoke in a mall. These are items people are purchasing and people should take that home for the opportunity to jack that up. Further, there are children and pregnant women and everyone can enter.

The same goes for something like airplanes. You are in a limited space over which there is no option to leave and it has a negative effect on those that cannot opt out.
 
Thanks, you do enjoy appearing helpless.
Looks like smokers are helpless

How so. Smokers don't demand that private businesses be regulated on their behalf.

Strange logic RW. Of course, you are helpless
They demand the right to subject fellow patrons to their filthy habit

Business didn't do anything so government had to

I'm not aware of those demands. Can you share them?

There were many establishments that were none smoking or has well ventilated smoking areas.

But to the helpless, I guess that's not adequate?

Having a smoking area in a bar is like having a peeing area in a pool

You prolly freak out when you see kids in the pool. And, an old dude like you? Prolly pees in the pool.
 
Yes, but the nazi smoking police wants to ban vaping too!!!!

When I stopped smoking I started vaping

There is no way to make those people happy. Danm if you do, damn if you don't

What a life!:mad-61:

Look at this way. Other people are trying to save your life. That is if you care about your life.

No they are not. What gives you or anyone the right to make choices for others?

If a person smoke next to me......... It's my health that you are talking about. So it's also my right to express my concern.
If you are in an establishment that permits smoking, I have to question your honesty that you are concerned about your health. Might want to try that again.

Most places I go are non smoking....... Smokers are the minorities. You can't smoke inside the mall either wonder how many malls closed because of no smoking.
I do not allow my guest or family members smoke out side my houses. They can go smoke outside the gate or back at the dock but no ash or butts go to the water.

They probably think your a bit paranoid, as do I.
 
Looks like smokers are helpless

How so. Smokers don't demand that private businesses be regulated on their behalf.

Strange logic RW. Of course, you are helpless
They demand the right to subject fellow patrons to their filthy habit

Business didn't do anything so government had to

I'm not aware of those demands. Can you share them?

There were many establishments that were none smoking or has well ventilated smoking areas.

But to the helpless, I guess that's not adequate?

Having a smoking area in a bar is like having a peeing area in a pool

You prolly freak out when you see kids in the pool. And, an old dude like you? Prolly pees in the pool.
Went right over your head didn't it?
 
One of my infamous threads I wish would die already..
 
How so. Smokers don't demand that private businesses be regulated on their behalf.

Strange logic RW. Of course, you are helpless
They demand the right to subject fellow patrons to their filthy habit

Business didn't do anything so government had to

I'm not aware of those demands. Can you share them?

There were many establishments that were none smoking or has well ventilated smoking areas.

But to the helpless, I guess that's not adequate?

Having a smoking area in a bar is like having a peeing area in a pool

You prolly freak out when you see kids in the pool. And, an old dude like you? Prolly pees in the pool.
Went right over your head didn't it?

Nope, it's old and tired. There will always be pee in pools, that's why they put in chlorine

Good bars but in the equivalent. Ventilation.

Sorry dood, both worked.
 
Yes, but the nazi smoking police wants to ban vaping too!!!!

When I stopped smoking I started vaping

There is no way to make those people happy. Danm if you do, damn if you don't

What a life!:mad-61:

Look at this way. Other people are trying to save your life. That is if you care about your life.

No they are not. What gives you or anyone the right to make choices for others?

If a person smoke next to me......... It's my health that you are talking about. So it's also my right to express my concern.
If you are in an establishment that permits smoking, I have to question your honesty that you are concerned about your health. Might want to try that again.

Most places I go are non smoking....... Smokers are the minorities. You can't smoke inside the mall either wonder how many malls closed because of no smoking.
I do not allow my guest or family members smoke out side my houses. They can go smoke outside the gate or back at the dock but no ash or butts go to the water.
Who said anything about the mall?

You stated that you were concerned about your health in establishments that permit smoking. I called you on that. If you know the establishment permits smoking and you chose to enter, then you don't care about your health.
 
Well thankfully, all of you are wrong considering that smoking is NOT allowed in most bars/restaurants. :) Put that in your mouth and smoke it, buttheads.
 
Well thankfully, all of you are wrong considering that smoking is NOT allowed in most bars/restaurants. :) Put that in your mouth and smoke it, buttheads.

Actually there are about 16 states and Michigan may revert back.
 
Well thankfully, all of you are wrong considering that smoking is NOT allowed in most bars/restaurants. :) Put that in your mouth and smoke it, buttheads.

Actually there are about 16 states and Michigan may revert back.

Well, no smoking in restaurants or bars in MY state. I mean really, it's a disgusting habit, and other people who could have lung/breathing problems should not have to not go out because of smokers. Good grief! That's selfish.
 
Well thankfully, all of you are wrong considering that smoking is NOT allowed in most bars/restaurants. :) Put that in your mouth and smoke it, buttheads.

Actually there are about 16 states and Michigan may revert back.

Well, no smoking in restaurants or bars in MY state. I mean really, it's a disgusting habit, and other people who could have lung/breathing problems should not have to not go out because of smokers. Good grief! That's selfish.
That's perfectly fine to think that. My objection stems from the pretentious bullshit that was spouted about these changes being made and how it was done "for the employees".
 
I love smoking

I miss smoking

I don't smoke anymore

I only vape

....

life is not the same anymore :(
 
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Look at this way. Other people are trying to save your life. That is if you care about your life.

No they are not. What gives you or anyone the right to make choices for others?

If a person smoke next to me......... It's my health that you are talking about. So it's also my right to express my concern.
If you are in an establishment that permits smoking, I have to question your honesty that you are concerned about your health. Might want to try that again.

Most places I go are non smoking....... Smokers are the minorities. You can't smoke inside the mall either wonder how many malls closed because of no smoking.
I do not allow my guest or family members smoke out side my houses. They can go smoke outside the gate or back at the dock but no ash or butts go to the water.
Who said anything about the mall?

You stated that you were concerned about your health in establishments that permit smoking. I called you on that. If you know the establishment permits smoking and you chose to enter, then you don't care about your health.

1. Let me repeat. Most of the places I go are non smoking.
2. I do not have a health problem but I will not wait till I get sick before doing something.
3. There are lots of establishments that allowed both Smoking/Non Smoking but with separate sections........ Some smokers are pushy come in to a non smoking section kind of of sneaky. Then smoke like no other people exist in the room. Most of the time other people had said something nasty against the smoker........... to get out.
4. I do not join a table or a group that allowed smoking ......... What do you think they will tell me if I ask them to put the cigarette out? They probably blow it right in my face. That's stupid don't you think.
Try again.,
 
Well thankfully, all of you are wrong considering that smoking is NOT allowed in most bars/restaurants. :) Put that in your mouth and smoke it, buttheads.

When one can't justify the removal of the rights of private property owners..........


Just spew insults.

That's not what makes America great
 
Well thankfully, all of you are wrong considering that smoking is NOT allowed in most bars/restaurants. :) Put that in your mouth and smoke it, buttheads.

When one can't justify the removal of the rights of private property owners..........


Just spew insults.

That's not what makes America great

You don't have a right to make other people sick!
 
Well thankfully, all of you are wrong considering that smoking is NOT allowed in most bars/restaurants. :) Put that in your mouth and smoke it, buttheads.

Actually there are about 16 states and Michigan may revert back.

Well, no smoking in restaurants or bars in MY state. I mean really, it's a disgusting habit, and other people who could have lung/breathing problems should not have to not go out because of smokers. Good grief! That's selfish.

But it's ok to supply businesses that supply alcohol to those who drink then beat their wifesand kill the unsuspecting on the roads.

Strange logic really. Nope, that's not at all disgusting.

Of course, putting a sign on the door gives notice to the public of possible harm. What sign gives notice to the family of four that a drunk driver, from the same bar, is about to kill them?
 
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