Hogg's 5 wishes to end gun violence are just as pointless as all the other new anti gun laws

[2aguy]

Sure. Keep doing what we are and continue to have regular mass shootings. Regular police deaths. A homicide rate 4-5x that of countries with strong gun control...

Wrong...britain's gun crime is increasing, their criminals just don't murder their victims......

And Americans use their guns 2.4 million times a year to save lives.......according to the CDC.......lives saved.......far more than are taken with guns and even police chiefs believe armed citizens help reduce crime.

 

[2aguy]

Most are suicides....so intervention....then you have repeat gun offenders, let out of jail by democrats....to stop them? You keep them locked up.......and that is how you lower the gun murder rate.

^^^^^^This. Criminals get little, or no jail time as the DA's plead down the charges to get a fast conviction. Many of these thugs are repeat offenders.

If you hear about a shooting in our democrat controlled cities, look at the criminal and they likely have long criminal records and worst of all....they should have been in jail at the time of the murder.

 

[rightwinger]

How is studying gun deaths wasteful?

Because we already know the answers.

Evidently, we don’t
We still have 30,000 deaths a year

What is wrong with investigating how we can reduce these deaths?

And we know why we have 30,000 deaths per year, and we also know how to eliminate many of them. Some you will never stop though, so one more study is simply pissing in the wind.

Evidently not
We have no idea how to stop 30,000 deaths a year

Other nations seem to know

Why would you oppose studying our gun fatalities?

Most are suicides....so intervention....then you have repeat gun offenders, let out of jail by democrats....to stop them? You keep them locked up.......and that is how you lower the gun murder rate.

CDC would want to study gun suicides also

 

[rightwinger]

Now, let’s move in to Universal Background Checks
Americans overwhelmingly support them

Why would anyone want criminals and crazies to have access to guns?

Universal background checks are only supported because they sound good, which is why anti gun era want to use them to get gun registration. Criminals use straw buyers, people who can pass any background check.....which means the only reason for universal background checks is to next demand gun registration.......or criminals steal their guns.

Yes they use straw buyers
That is why background checks on all transactions are needed

Why do you want to sell your guns to criminals?

 

[Pilot1]

Yes they use straw buyers
That is why background checks on all transactions are needed

Why do you want to sell your guns to criminals?

Criminals steal their guns, or buy them illegally on the street. They don't go through background checks.

 

[rightwinger]

Yes they use straw buyers
That is why background checks on all transactions are needed

Why do you want to sell your guns to criminals?

Criminals steal their guns, or buy them illegally on the street. They don't go through background checks.

Where did those guns come from?
We need background checks on all transactions

Why registration and background checks are necessary

 

[Pop23]

RightWinger is just interested in protecting criminals

 

[rightwinger]

RightWinger is just interested in protecting criminals

You are the one ensuring they obtain the weapon of their choice

 

[Pop23]

RightWinger is just interested in protecting criminals

You are the one ensuring they obtain the weapon of their choice

How so, I want them all hung in the public square.

 

[Pop23]

Because we already know the answers.

Evidently, we don’t
We still have 30,000 deaths a year

What is wrong with investigating how we can reduce these deaths?

And we know why we have 30,000 deaths per year, and we also know how to eliminate many of them. Some you will never stop though, so one more study is simply pissing in the wind.

Evidently not
We have no idea how to stop 30,000 deaths a year

Other nations seem to know

Why would you oppose studying our gun fatalities?

Most are suicides....so intervention....then you have repeat gun offenders, let out of jail by democrats....to stop them? You keep them locked up.......and that is how you lower the gun murder rate.

CDC would want to study gun suicides also

Does the CDC not know that a gun is not required to commit suicide?

And you actually want to give idiots money?

 

[2aguy]

Because we already know the answers.

Evidently, we don’t
We still have 30,000 deaths a year

What is wrong with investigating how we can reduce these deaths?

And we know why we have 30,000 deaths per year, and we also know how to eliminate many of them. Some you will never stop though, so one more study is simply pissing in the wind.

Evidently not
We have no idea how to stop 30,000 deaths a year

Other nations seem to know

Why would you oppose studying our gun fatalities?

Most are suicides....so intervention....then you have repeat gun offenders, let out of jail by democrats....to stop them? You keep them locked up.......and that is how you lower the gun murder rate.

CDC would want to study gun suicides also

They already can...no one is stopping them....

 

[2aguy]

Yes they use straw buyers
That is why background checks on all transactions are needed

Why do you want to sell your guns to criminals?

Criminals steal their guns, or buy them illegally on the street. They don't go through background checks.

Where did those guns come from?
We need background checks on all transactions

Why registration and background checks are necessary

Background checks don't do anything.......a crime gun is passed around from criminal to criminal so when it is finally found by police, it has no connection to the original, law abiding owner.

The Canadians registered guns...and it didn't help them solve crimes or stop criminals from getting them.

 

[2aguy]

Now, let’s move in to Universal Background Checks
Americans overwhelmingly support them

Why would anyone want criminals and crazies to have access to guns?

Universal background checks are only supported because they sound good, which is why anti gun era want to use them to get gun registration. Criminals use straw buyers, people who can pass any background check.....which means the only reason for universal background checks is to next demand gun registration.......or criminals steal their guns.

Yes they use straw buyers
That is why background checks on all transactions are needed

Why do you want to sell your guns to criminals?

Yeah....you are stupid. The straw buyer can pass any background check, moron.....does a dumb ass like you think before you post?

 

[rightwinger]

Digitization of ATF records

OMG, stop the presses

David Hogg actually wants to bring ATF into the 21 st century.......what is he thinking

 

[Pop23]

Digitization of ATF records

OMG, stop the presses

David Hogg actually wants to bring ATF into the 21 st century.......what is he thinking

No, it’s actually going back to the dark ages.

The government has no more right to know what gun I own then what toaster I own.

 

[rightwinger]

Digitization of ATF records

OMG, stop the presses

David Hogg actually wants to bring ATF into the 21 st century.......what is he thinking

No, it’s actually going back to the dark ages.

The government has no more right to know what gun I own then what toaster I own.

Do you know what digitization is?

They are digitizing existing records. Makes it easier to share information

 

[jon_berzerk]

Digitization of ATF records

OMG, stop the presses

David Hogg actually wants to bring ATF into the 21 st century.......what is he thinking

No, it’s actually going back to the dark ages.

The government has no more right to know what gun I own then what toaster I own.

The government has no more right to know what gun I own then what toaster I own


dont give those control freaks any more ideas

 

[Pop23]

Digitization of ATF records

OMG, stop the presses

David Hogg actually wants to bring ATF into the 21 st century.......what is he thinking

No, it’s actually going back to the dark ages.

The government has no more right to know what gun I own then what toaster I own.

Do you know what digitization is?

They are digitizing existing records. Makes it easier to share information

Information on law abiding citizens. The crooks of the world could give a damn.

What is the point?

 

[JoeB131]

The CDC was never banned from studying gun violence the only restriction was they not use money for any study to advocate for or against gun control as that is not their role

So they were just not allowed to do any study that said things the NRA didn't like... kind of the same thing.

Kellerman pointed out guns in the home are more dangerous to people living there, and the NRA cut that shit out.

 

[JoeB131]

But since we know that most mass shootings are the result of the use of SSRI antidepressant use, it would be far more effective to allow the drug manufacturers to be sued and put those pushers out of business. Plus make a Physician that prescribes these drugs, take out a 2 million dollar insurance policy per patient that they prescribe these pills to. Then maybe those quacks can be driven out of business.

Guy, nobody ever got killed because someone threw pills at them.

Guns kill people. so if you hand someone the ability to shoot lots and lots of people,and you didn't bother to find out if they were mentally ill, then you should get sued for it.

Betcha the gun companies will make DAMNED SURE they don't sell to crazy people once that happens.