Hitler was laughing out loud at FDR

[Sunsettommy]

Before WWII started, Roosevelt had let our military go straight to seed. We basically didn't have a serious army, just a handful of men were under arms, and that was of course the real cause of WWII. Hitler would not have thought to start the Holocaust if America was able to stop it immediately.

But in any event, when we did enter WWII, FDR recruited and fielded a Jim Crow Army to fight Hitler. Hitler thought it was hilarious and hypocritical that America would fight against racism, using a racist institution.

If FDR would have integrated the army right at Pearl Harbor, it would have given the message to Mr. Hitler we were serious.

FDR made the US into a Superpower

But if he had done it in the 1930's, instead of wasting money on his Raw Deal programs, the world would have been saved the misery of WWII and the millions killed and incalculable distraction of property.

If America had a first class army by 1939, Mr. Hitler would have abandoned his evil ideas of offending America and getting his kraut ass kicked. But America appeared weak, so he felt free to launch the H-Caust.

You really don't know Hitler apparently...…, he was never intimidated by America at anytime right up to his declaration of war in December 1941.

I read a number of Hitler speeches on his views of America, they clearly showed he was never afraid and was dismissive of them.

By the way World War started in September 1939, when Germany attacked Poland, which England and France joined slowly in response. America went to war starting in December 1941, long after Germany had gotten many nations directly involved in War, over TWO years after Hitler started WW2.

​

Thus your claims are silly.

Hitler WOULD HAVE been intimidated if America was already armed to the teeth in 1939. And that's the point. The H-Caust doesn't happen as Mr. Hitler's calculus would have been different.

You have no idea how wrong you are apparently, being ignorant of WHO Hitler is. He attacked France despite inferior Tanks, Anti Tank, Artillery and fewer men. He attacked Shipping despite having far fewer ships than England.

Then he attacked USSR, who had the largest Army on Earth, with the wars best Artillery, Tank and anti tank equipment on hand shall I go on?...………..

 

[Dan Stubbs]

Before WWII started, Roosevelt had let our military go straight to seed. We basically didn't have a serious army, just a handful of men were under arms, and that was of course the real cause of WWII. Hitler would not have thought to start the Holocaust if America was able to stop it immediately.

But in any event, when we did enter WWII, FDR recruited and fielded a Jim Crow Army to fight Hitler. Hitler thought it was hilarious and hypocritical that America would fight against racism, using a racist institution.

If FDR would have integrated the army right at Pearl Harbor, it would have given the message to Mr. Hitler we were serious.

You must have missed the History class, some of those who died at Pearl were Black and serving in the Army and Navy. What Black History Month in Feb they will educate you a little.

 

[Dan Stubbs]

Before WWII started, Roosevelt had let our military go straight to seed. We basically didn't have a serious army, just a handful of men were under arms, and that was of course the real cause of WWII. Hitler would not have thought to start the Holocaust if America was able to stop it immediately.

But in any event, when we did enter WWII, FDR recruited and fielded a Jim Crow Army to fight Hitler. Hitler thought it was hilarious and hypocritical that America would fight against racism, using a racist institution.

If FDR would have integrated the army right at Pearl Harbor, it would have given the message to Mr. Hitler we were serious.

That is not unusual since after every war the US demobilized and kept mainly the marines and navy for protection as a full time force.

Fair enough, but since America was demobilized, it would been simpler to bring all the new recruits to fight WWII into fully integrated units instead of Jim Crow units.

That's not what white America said..

First off, FDR was commander in chief, the army would have done what he said. And secondly, speak for yourself, most Honky Americans were ok with blacks in the same army units.

Trusted them more then the homeboys from Nam, some were Cong.

 

[Dan Stubbs]

Before WWII started, Roosevelt had let our military go straight to seed. We basically didn't have a serious army, just a handful of men were under arms, and that was of course the real cause of WWII. Hitler would not have thought to start the Holocaust if America was able to stop it immediately.

But in any event, when we did enter WWII, FDR recruited and fielded a Jim Crow Army to fight Hitler. Hitler thought it was hilarious and hypocritical that America would fight against racism, using a racist institution.

If FDR would have integrated the army right at Pearl Harbor, it would have given the message to Mr. Hitler we were serious.

FDR made the US into a Superpower

But if he had done it in the 1930's, instead of wasting money on his Raw Deal programs, the world would have been saved the misery of WWII and the millions killed and incalculable distraction of property.

If America had a first class army by 1939, Mr. Hitler would have abandoned his evil ideas of offending America and getting his kraut ass kicked. But America appeared weak, so he felt free to launch the H-Caust.

You really don't know Hitler apparently...…, he was never intimidated by America at anytime right up to his declaration of war in December 1941.

I read a number of Hitler speeches on his views of America, they clearly showed he was never afraid and was dismissive of them.

By the way World War started in September 1939, when Germany attacked Poland, which England and France joined slowly in response. America went to war starting in December 1941, long after Germany had gotten many nations directly involved in War, over TWO years after Hitler started WW2.

​

Thus your claims are silly.

Hitler WOULD HAVE been intimidated if America was already armed to the teeth in 1939. And that's the point. The H-Caust doesn't happen as Mr. Hitler's calculus would have been different.

You have no idea how wrong you are apparently, being ignorant of WHO Hitler is. He attacked France despite inferior Tanks, Anti Tank, Artillery and fewer men. He attacked Shipping despite having far fewer ships than England.

Then he attacked USSR, who had the largest Army on Earth, with the wars best Artillery, Tank and anti tank equipment on hand shall I go on?...………..

The Art of War suggest that fighting two wars at one time is not a good idea. Hitler thought he was better Officer than the ones who were serving. A Leader of a Nation should leave the fighting to those who know what they are doing.

 

[Pogo]

Before WWII started, Roosevelt had let our military go straight to seed. We basically didn't have a serious army, just a handful of men were under arms, and that was of course the real cause of WWII. Hitler would not have thought to start the Holocaust if America was able to stop it immediately.

But in any event, when we did enter WWII, FDR recruited and fielded a Jim Crow Army to fight Hitler. Hitler thought it was hilarious and hypocritical that America would fight against racism, using a racist institution.

If FDR would have integrated the army right at Pearl Harbor, it would have given the message to Mr. Hitler we were serious.

FDR made the US into a Superpower

But if he had done it in the 1930's, instead of wasting money on his Raw Deal programs, the world would have been saved the misery of WWII and the millions killed and incalculable distraction of property.

If America had a first class army by 1939, Mr. Hitler would have abandoned his evil ideas of offending America and getting his kraut ass kicked. But America appeared weak, so he felt free to launch the H-Caust.

You really don't know Hitler apparently...…, he was never intimidated by America at anytime right up to his declaration of war in December 1941.

I read a number of Hitler speeches on his views of America, they clearly showed he was never afraid and was dismissive of them.

By the way World War started in September 1939, when Germany attacked Poland, which England and France joined slowly in response. America went to war starting in December 1941, long after Germany had gotten many nations directly involved in War, over TWO years after Hitler started WW2.

​

Thus your claims are silly.

OP doesn't seem to know geography either, imagining some fantasy world where Hitler's looking over his shoulder all the way across an ocean, as if Britain and France and the rest of his neighbors didn't exist or something.

 

[Moonglow]

Before WWII started, Roosevelt had let our military go straight to seed. We basically didn't have a serious army, just a handful of men were under arms, and that was of course the real cause of WWII. Hitler would not have thought to start the Holocaust if America was able to stop it immediately.

But in any event, when we did enter WWII, FDR recruited and fielded a Jim Crow Army to fight Hitler. Hitler thought it was hilarious and hypocritical that America would fight against racism, using a racist institution.

If FDR would have integrated the army right at Pearl Harbor, it would have given the message to Mr. Hitler we were serious.

That is not unusual since after every war the US demobilized and kept mainly the marines and navy for protection as a full time force.

Fair enough, but since America was demobilized, it would been simpler to bring all the new recruits to fight WWII into fully integrated units instead of Jim Crow units.

That's not what white America said..

First off, FDR was commander in chief, the army would have done what he said. And secondly, speak for yourself, most Honky Americans were ok with blacks in the same army units.

Even when you are the leader you must yield to the powers that support you.

 

[Pogo]

Hitler thought he was better Officer than the ones who were serving.

Hmm.... why does that sound so familiar?

Oh wait, I remember.

​

 

[rightwinger]

Before WWII started, Roosevelt had let our military go straight to seed. We basically didn't have a serious army, just a handful of men were under arms, and that was of course the real cause of WWII. Hitler would not have thought to start the Holocaust if America was able to stop it immediately.

But in any event, when we did enter WWII, FDR recruited and fielded a Jim Crow Army to fight Hitler. Hitler thought it was hilarious and hypocritical that America would fight against racism, using a racist institution.

If FDR would have integrated the army right at Pearl Harbor, it would have given the message to Mr. Hitler we were serious.

FDR made the US into a Superpower

But if he had done it in the 1930's, instead of wasting money on his Raw Deal programs, the world would have been saved the misery of WWII and the millions killed and incalculable distraction of property.

If America had a first class army by 1939, Mr. Hitler would have abandoned his evil ideas of offending America and getting his kraut ass kicked. But America appeared weak, so he felt free to launch the H-Caust.

You really don't know Hitler apparently...…, he was never intimidated by America at anytime right up to his declaration of war in December 1941.

I read a number of Hitler speeches on his views of America, they clearly showed he was never afraid and was dismissive of them.

By the way World War started in September 1939, when Germany attacked Poland, which England and France joined slowly in response. America went to war starting in December 1941, long after Germany had gotten many nations directly involved in War, over TWO years after Hitler started WW2.

​

Thus your claims are silly.

Hitler WOULD HAVE been intimidated if America was already armed to the teeth in 1939. And that's the point. The H-Caust doesn't happen as Mr. Hitler's calculus would have been different.

Hitler did not have the Navy or economic power of the US

 

[Markle]

Before WWII started, Roosevelt had let our military go straight to seed. We basically didn't have a serious army, just a handful of men were under arms, and that was of course the real cause of WWII. Hitler would not have thought to start the Holocaust if America was able to stop it immediately.

But in any event, when we did enter WWII, FDR recruited and fielded a Jim Crow Army to fight Hitler. Hitler thought it was hilarious and hypocritical that America would fight against racism, using a racist institution.

If FDR would have integrated the army right at Pearl Harbor, it would have given the message to Mr. Hitler we were serious.

Totally, 100% BOGUS. Why would you post such garbage? Eager to compete with some of the other Trolls here.

America was still recovering from WW-I and the vast majority of Americans wanted no part of entering into WW-II. FDR had to work and work hard to get Americans behind him and join in the fight. Americans wanted total isolationism.

Rumors and evidence are strong that Winston Churchill knew about the pending Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. Churchill was desperate for the United States to enter into the war. Another mystery is why Hitler declared war on the US on December 12, 1941. Hitler feared the production capabilities of the United States. Yes, Hitler had a mutual defense pact with Japan but he had ignored every other pact he had signed and was occupied with invading Russia.

By that time, 1942, we were producing massive amounts of war materials but we did not have the numbers of soldiers and none had battle experience. That's the reason Churchill agreed with Roosevelt to enter the battle in North Africa and Italy. Stalin desperately wanted the allies to attack Europe and give Hitler a two-front war. By this time, Stalin had already lost millions of troops and civilians.

Your foolish attempt to bring race into WW-II is just stupid.

 

[Markle]

Before WWII started, Roosevelt had let our military go straight to seed. We basically didn't have a serious army, just a handful of men were under arms, and that was of course the real cause of WWII. Hitler would not have thought to start the Holocaust if America was able to stop it immediately.

But in any event, when we did enter WWII, FDR recruited and fielded a Jim Crow Army to fight Hitler. Hitler thought it was hilarious and hypocritical that America would fight against racism, using a racist institution.

If FDR would have integrated the army right at Pearl Harbor, it would have given the message to Mr. Hitler we were serious.

FDR made the US into a Superpower

All while extending the Great Depression by at least seven years.

 

[gipper]

The 'founders' never intended the central government to have a large standing army.

Times and equipment sort of change with passing of time.

But not for the better, in this regard.

 

[gipper]

Before WWII started, Roosevelt had let our military go straight to seed. We basically didn't have a serious army, just a handful of men were under arms, and that was of course the real cause of WWII. Hitler would not have thought to start the Holocaust if America was able to stop it immediately.

But in any event, when we did enter WWII, FDR recruited and fielded a Jim Crow Army to fight Hitler. Hitler thought it was hilarious and hypocritical that America would fight against racism, using a racist institution.

If FDR would have integrated the army right at Pearl Harbor, it would have given the message to Mr. Hitler we were serious.

FDR made the US into a Superpower

But if he had done it in the 1930's, instead of wasting money on his Raw Deal programs, the world would have been saved the misery of WWII and the millions killed and incalculable distraction of property.

If America had a first class army by 1939, Mr. Hitler would have abandoned his evil ideas of offending America and getting his kraut ass kicked. But America appeared weak, so he felt free to launch the H-Caust.

That’s silly. Hitler didn’t concern himself with the US. He never intended nor ever wanted to fight the US. Had the dumbass Limeys and Frenchys not had a stupid alliance with Poland, WWII would have been called the Russo Huns War.

FDR only made matters worse resulting in the mass murder of thousands of innocent German and Japanese civilians.

 

[Markle]

FDR was Stalin's bitch. Patton was right.

FDR got Stalin to do the fighting and dying

You left out Operation Barbarossa which started in June 1941. The allies didn't have materials or experienced soldiers prior to D-Day.

 

[rightwinger]

Before WWII started, Roosevelt had let our military go straight to seed. We basically didn't have a serious army, just a handful of men were under arms, and that was of course the real cause of WWII. Hitler would not have thought to start the Holocaust if America was able to stop it immediately.

But in any event, when we did enter WWII, FDR recruited and fielded a Jim Crow Army to fight Hitler. Hitler thought it was hilarious and hypocritical that America would fight against racism, using a racist institution.

If FDR would have integrated the army right at Pearl Harbor, it would have given the message to Mr. Hitler we were serious.

FDR made the US into a Superpower

All while extending the Great Depression by at least seven years.

What total nonsense

FDR took office in March 1933. The Depression was over by 1939 as the US ramped up War production

You wanted FDR to end the Depression before he even took office

 

[eagle1462010]

Before WWII started, Roosevelt had let our military go straight to seed. We basically didn't have a serious army, just a handful of men were under arms, and that was of course the real cause of WWII. Hitler would not have thought to start the Holocaust if America was able to stop it immediately.

But in any event, when we did enter WWII, FDR recruited and fielded a Jim Crow Army to fight Hitler. Hitler thought it was hilarious and hypocritical that America would fight against racism, using a racist institution.

If FDR would have integrated the army right at Pearl Harbor, it would have given the message to Mr. Hitler we were serious.

FDR made the US into a Superpower

All while extending the Great Depression by at least seven years.

What total nonsense

FDR took office in March 1933. The Depression was over by 1939 as the US ramped up War production

You wanted FDR to end the Depression before he even took office

He was Stalin's bitch............LOL

 

[rightwinger]

FDR was Stalin's bitch. Patton was right.

FDR got Stalin to do the fighting and dying

You left out Operation Barbarossa which started in June 1941. The allies didn't have materials or experienced soldiers prior to D-Day.

Agree

Stalin started screaming for an allied invasion in 1942, 1943 and we finally invaded mid 1944

In the meantime, the Russians took on the might of the Nazi forces by themselves. Who was the bitch?

 

[Markle]

What total nonsense

FDR took office in March 1933. The Depression was over by 1939 as the US ramped up War production

You wanted FDR to end the Depression before he even took office

From that bastion of Conservative thought....

FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate
By Meg SullivanAugust 10, 2004
Category: Research

Two UCLA economists say they have figured out why the Great Depression dragged on for almost 15 years, and they blame a suspect previously thought to be beyond reproach: President Franklin D. Roosevelt.

After scrutinizing Roosevelt's record for four years, Harold L. Cole and Lee E. Ohanian conclude in a new study that New Deal policies signed into law 71 years ago thwarted economic recovery for seven long years.

"Why the Great Depression lasted so long has always been a great mystery, and because we never really knew the reason, we have always worried whether we would have another 10- to 15-year economic slump," said Ohanian, vice chair of UCLA's Department of Economics. "We found that a relapse isn't likely unless lawmakers gum up a recovery with ill-conceived stimulus policies."

[…]

As union membership doubled, so did labor's bargaining power, rising from 14 million strike days in 1936 to about 28 million in 1937. By 1939 wages in protected industries remained 24 percent to 33 percent above where they should have been, based on 1929 figures, Cole and Ohanian calculate.

Unemployment persisted. By 1939 the U.S. unemployment rate was 17.2 percent, down somewhat from its 1933 peak of 24.9 percent but still remarkably high. By comparison, in May 2003, the unemployment rate of 6.1 percent was the highest in nine years.

Recovery came only after the Department of Justice dramatically stepped up enforcement of antitrust cases nearly four-fold and organized labor suffered a string of setbacks, the economists found.

"The fact that the Depression dragged on for years convinced generations of economists and policy-makers that capitalism could not be trusted to recover from depressions and that significant government intervention was required to achieve good outcomes," Cole said. "Ironically, our work shows that the recovery would have been very rapid had the government not intervened."

-UCLA-

LSMS368

Read more: FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate

 

[Polishprince]

Before WWII started, Roosevelt had let our military go straight to seed. We basically didn't have a serious army, just a handful of men were under arms, and that was of course the real cause of WWII. Hitler would not have thought to start the Holocaust if America was able to stop it immediately.

But in any event, when we did enter WWII, FDR recruited and fielded a Jim Crow Army to fight Hitler. Hitler thought it was hilarious and hypocritical that America would fight against racism, using a racist institution.

If FDR would have integrated the army right at Pearl Harbor, it would have given the message to Mr. Hitler we were serious.

FDR made the US into a Superpower

All while extending the Great Depression by at least seven years.

What total nonsense

FDR took office in March 1933. The Depression was over by 1939 as the US ramped up War production

You wanted FDR to end the Depression before he even took office

The nation's unemployment rate was 17% in 1939, 14% in 1940 and was still at 9.9% in December 1941.

Until the Empire of Japan pulled a Pearl Harbor job on America in Hawaii, the depression was still on.

 

[rightwinger]

What total nonsense

FDR took office in March 1933. The Depression was over by 1939 as the US ramped up War production

You wanted FDR to end the Depression before he even took office

From that bastion of Conservative thought....

FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate
By Meg SullivanAugust 10, 2004
Category: Research

Two UCLA economists say they have figured out why the Great Depression dragged on for almost 15 years, and they blame a suspect previously thought to be beyond reproach: President Franklin D. Roosevelt.

After scrutinizing Roosevelt's record for four years, Harold L. Cole and Lee E. Ohanian conclude in a new study that New Deal policies signed into law 71 years ago thwarted economic recovery for seven long years.

"Why the Great Depression lasted so long has always been a great mystery, and because we never really knew the reason, we have always worried whether we would have another 10- to 15-year economic slump," said Ohanian, vice chair of UCLA's Department of Economics. "We found that a relapse isn't likely unless lawmakers gum up a recovery with ill-conceived stimulus policies."

[…]

As union membership doubled, so did labor's bargaining power, rising from 14 million strike days in 1936 to about 28 million in 1937. By 1939 wages in protected industries remained 24 percent to 33 percent above where they should have been, based on 1929 figures, Cole and Ohanian calculate.

Unemployment persisted. By 1939 the U.S. unemployment rate was 17.2 percent, down somewhat from its 1933 peak of 24.9 percent but still remarkably high. By comparison, in May 2003, the unemployment rate of 6.1 percent was the highest in nine years.

Recovery came only after the Department of Justice dramatically stepped up enforcement of antitrust cases nearly four-fold and organized labor suffered a string of setbacks, the economists found.

"The fact that the Depression dragged on for years convinced generations of economists and policy-makers that capitalism could not be trusted to recover from depressions and that significant government intervention was required to achieve good outcomes," Cole said. "Ironically, our work shows that the recovery would have been very rapid had the government not intervened."

-UCLA-

LSMS368

Read more: FDR's policies prolonged Depression by 7 years, UCLA economists calculate

That study again?

It has been widely debunked

 

[WheelieAddict]

Before WWII started, Roosevelt had let our military go straight to seed. We basically didn't have a serious army, just a handful of men were under arms, and that was of course the real cause of WWII. Hitler would not have thought to start the Holocaust if America was able to stop it immediately.

But in any event, when we did enter WWII, FDR recruited and fielded a Jim Crow Army to fight Hitler. Hitler thought it was hilarious and hypocritical that America would fight against racism, using a racist institution.

If FDR would have integrated the army right at Pearl Harbor, it would have given the message to Mr. Hitler we were serious.

"It's FDRs fault Hitler was a piece of shit"
-dumbfucks