As I said above:You surely are a "Useful idiot" like all the other Jew haters who want to shove any story down the Jews ' throat instead of what Genesis and history actually say in order to destroy Israel and make the "Palestinians" the ancient people of the land. What a joke, endless with absolute no end in sight.You know what?And still, the Arabs are NOT the indigenous people of the land, as they themselves acknowledge.Each and every invader, from the Greeks, to the Assyrians ......all the way to the Muslim, Crusaders, Ottomans and British.....always acknowledged that the land later included in the Mandate for Palestine belonged to the Jews, no matter how many were there at any time in history.Any reference to a "historic Palestine" can only be a reference to a Jewish Palestine.“Historic Palestine” is a commonly-used term when discussing the Arab-Israeli conflict. The phrase suggests that a nation known as Palestine existed in the past, with the word “historic” giving the impression that this nation has deep roots in the region and thus has a natural claim to be revived in the form of a modern state called Palestine. By referring to the land thus without mentioning Jewish history, it also subtly suggests that a Jewish presence is foreign to the region.
This article discusses the origin and evolution of the usage of “Palestine” as a place name and how current notions of “Historic Palestine” are all based on a false understanding of the geographic and political history of the region.
Historic Palestine in today’s usage typically refers to the territory that now comprises Israel, the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. Here are several recent prominent examples of usage of the term:
- Saeb Erekat, chief negotiator for the Palestinian Authority, stated in an opinion piece published in the New York Times in May 2019 that the Palestinians recognized Israel on the “1967 border, equivalent to 78 percent of historic Palestine.”'Historic Palestine' – A Misleading Anachronism Which “historic Palestine” was Erekat referring to and does Israel really comprise 78% of this “historic” territory?
- The Columbia Journalism Review published an article in January 2019 titled “Palestinian citizens of Israel struggle to tell their stories” in which the author claimed that “Historic Palestine under Ottoman and British control had a thriving Arabic press.”[ii] Was Palestine ever a territory under Ottoman control?
- A June 2019 article in The Washington Report on Middle East Affairs about Trump’s “Deal of the Century” for Middle East peace states that the deal could leave the “New Palestine” in charge of “about 12 percent of historic Palestine.”[iii] What land area was used to arrive at this figure?
- President Abbas noted the following in his address to the United Nations in November 2012: “The two-state solution, i.e. the State of Palestine coexisting alongside the State of Israel, represents the spirit and essence of the historic compromise embodied in the Oslo Declaration of Principles, the agreement signed 19 years ago between the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) and the Government of Israel under the auspices of the United States of America on the White House Lawn, a compromise by which the Palestinian people accepted to establish their state on only 22% of the territory of historic Palestine for the sake of making peace.”[iv] Is this 22% number accurate?
“Historic Palestine” is an erroneously used term when discussing the Arab-Israeli conflict, supposedly referring to a nation that existed in the past.honestreporting.com
It's an extensively informative article.
But there's a very simple basic question - why do all lectures on this "Historic Palestine" narrative,
the pictures, stories and all discourse - always start at some late point , 30-40 years into Zionist enterprise, after the land and its economy has been already progressively rejuvenating,
drying the vast swamps, building new cities?
And of course, thus dodging the preceding Arab pogroms,
that destroy the alleged "disturbed peaceful co-existence" propaganda...
Very few Jews lived in Palestine from 70 AD until 1920. Read some history.
It took the Muslims losing that Islamic conquered land to the indigenous Jews, for those Jews all of a sudden become "European refugees" who had no right to the land which was always theirs by right, just as Australia belongs to the Aboriginal people and the Americas belong to the First Nations who inhabited them before the European invaders arrived.
Do you actually read any history? Or the Islamic writings which have confirmed that the land of Israel/Judea actually belonged to the Jews who were indigenous of the place? The Jews the Kurdish and Arab Muslims met when they invaded the land?
The land was renamed Syria Palestine by the Romans, and who's word Palestine was used in the Mandate for Palestine as a continuation of the insult, humiliation meant by the Romans towards the Jews? Same insult, humiliation was meant by the British who gave 78% of the Mandate (only Mandate where this happened) to the Hashemite Muslims, and not the indigenous Jews.
And then the British wanted to keep the rest of the Mandate for themselves, because it was meant for Jews.
Do not worry, no one in history can tell that no Christian or Muslim was ever a Jew hater by their words and deeds.
Herodotus predates the Romans by 500 years.. It was called Syri-Palestine,
The ONLY Hashemite was king Abdullah.
The Arabs do acknowldge the Jews of Palestine.. but Arabs have been there since long before Islam and they didn't immigrate from Europe and Russia.
Seriously, why would ONE historian in 500 years before the Romans, after the land had been called Canaan and Israel, would make a difference as to who the indigenous people were at the time (as still are) , and their rights to their ancestral land?
Correct, the Arabs immigrated not only from Arabia after the Muslim invasion in the 7th century, but by the end of the 19th century and start of the 20th century they were immigrating from Arabia, Syria, Iraq, Egypt, Lebanon, North Africa and many other places where they had moved to centuries before.
The difference between the European and Arab immigrants to Palestine during that time, is that the Jews were returning to their ancient homeland this time to recreate their ancient Nation, as so many did return to their homeland, Israel, during all the centuries before.....
and the Arabs, continued and continue to be indigenous of the Arabian Peninsula and it is the only territory they can actually call their ancestral home and have any rights over.
Another big difference between Jews and Arabs is that the Jews have wanted to live in peace with the Arabs in a Jewish State, the Arabs want to ethnically clean the Jews from everywhere in the Middle East, just as the Hashemites did in 1925 and 1948.
ONLY King Abdullah was an Hashemite?
What a lonely man. Him alone as an Hashemite against the Saudis from Yemen who invaded his land and took over around WWI.
No wonder he ran for his life!!!!!
And how amazing that the British gave ALL of TransJordan to be populated by only ONE person in 1925 amongst all the Jews who had been there since time immemorial.
ONE Hashemite, King Abdullah.
How did King Abdullah get rid of all the Jews in TransJordan in 1925 ALL by HIMSELF?
ONE Arab against so many Jews. Now, that is true power.
Arabs began migrating to Mesopotama and the Levant 10,000 years ago because receding glaciers caused the Arabian Peninsula to become more arid.
That's why there were Arabs in Palestine at the time of Abraham.. That's why both Moses and Abraham had Arab wives and why Sargon 2 settled 4 Arab tribes in Samaria about 700 BC.
You just don't know your history.
This is a thread about "Historic Palestine"
Show me where the Greeks, Romans, Assyrians, Byzantine, etc have written anything about an ancient land called Palestine, and a people called Palestinians.
Even the Kurdish and Arab Muslims did not land on that 'Ancient land" much less dealt with the "ancient Palestinians"
You can repeat that lie about Arab wives instead of Egyptian, all you like. It will never make it true.
Abraham and Ishmael NEVER stepped in Arabia, never took Arab wives, never had Arab children.
Keturah and Zipporah were Arabs. Abraham had six sons by his Arab wife Keturah.. Have you NEVER read the Bible?
The Greeks called it Syria-Palestine in 500 BC.
Chaucer and Shakespeare refer to Palestine.
You sure are ignorant.
Once an idiot......
Genesis and Exodus were written after the Babylonian exile. They are just origin myths.. Every culture has them.. Last time I looked there were over 250 well known orign myths. Did you think Genesis was History???
"A Useful Idiot" intent in rewriting ONE people's history only......and ONLY ONE.
The History of the Jewish People.
You are incapable of learning anything.