Hillary Gun Confiscation Plan: "Like Cash For Clunkers"

[martybegan]

BTW Australia only bans a few types of guns, Republicans, rightwingers, and the NRA dupes are just making stuff up. Get a clue dupes, the dupers are duping you - again.
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You are the dupe. Australia bans all guns. To get a gun, you have to prove you have a "genuine reason" for owning one. And self-defense doesn't count.


A "genuine reason". Good luck with that.

Christ, how many times have we heard the left wingers on this forum ask, "Why do you NEED an assault weapon?" This is EXACTLY the same reasoning used in Australia, and is in total violation of the Second Amendment.

You can be sure the Left would be howling and wailing over the First Amendment if someone made them prove they NEED midget porn.

Its the same in NYC, to get a handgun CCW, I need to prove to the NYPD my need for one.

 

[g5000]

BTW Australia only bans a few types of guns, Republicans, rightwingers, and the NRA dupes are just making stuff up. Get a clue dupes, the dupers are duping you - again.
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You are the dupe. Australia bans all guns. To get a gun, you have to prove you have a "genuine reason" for owning one. And self-defense doesn't count.


A "genuine reason". Good luck with that.

Christ, how many times have we heard the left wingers on this forum ask, "Why do you NEED an assault weapon?" This is EXACTLY the same reasoning used in Australia, and is in total violation of the Second Amendment.

You can be sure the Left would be howling and wailing over the First Amendment if someone made them prove they NEED midget porn.

Its the same in NYC, to get a handgun CCW, I need to prove to the NYPD my need for one.

That's New York for you.

Do you have to prove your need for a gun, or just the need to conceal carry?

 

[martybegan]

BTW Australia only bans a few types of guns, Republicans, rightwingers, and the NRA dupes are just making stuff up. Get a clue dupes, the dupers are duping you - again.
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You are the dupe. Australia bans all guns. To get a gun, you have to prove you have a "genuine reason" for owning one. And self-defense doesn't count.


A "genuine reason". Good luck with that.

Christ, how many times have we heard the left wingers on this forum ask, "Why do you NEED an assault weapon?" This is EXACTLY the same reasoning used in Australia, and is in total violation of the Second Amendment.

You can be sure the Left would be howling and wailing over the First Amendment if someone made them prove they NEED midget porn.

Its the same in NYC, to get a handgun CCW, I need to prove to the NYPD my need for one.

That's New York for you.

Do you have to prove your need for a gun, or just the need to conceal carry?

For the CCW, but just getting a home use permit takes months and over $1000. Plus you get the usual rules of having to keep the gun unloaded at all times (hence useless).

 

[LOki]

Got to love the gun nuts... They will find any where in the world to find some possible reason why guns don't cause gun violence...

Not really. The FBI, DOJ, BATF; the Bureau of Justice Statisitcs... not valid sources?

Peer-reviewed research from accredited institutions... not valid sources?

Only Slate, or Mother Jones, or Rolling Stone, or Huffington Post, or The Daily Show are valid sources?

Really?

How stupid must people be. more guns = more gun violence....

No guns and it very hard to shoot someone...

Look at gun free societies like UK and Ireland... Gun violence is quite rare...

The whole "Gun Violence" argument = tautology. The entire "gun violence" argument is meaningless.

Asserting that "gun violence" would be diminished by removing guns, is asserting the same kind of meaningless tautology that asserts getting rid of boats would diminish drownings; the argument is specious, and it distracts from discussing a "violence problem"--a problem that is not solvable by these gun-control laws you advocate.

When you deliberately create the special category of "gun violence" so that you can both include violence that was not caused by guns; and exclude violence caused by people (but without using guns), you tacitly admit that you're JUST FINE with all the violence in the world... provided no gun was involved.

"Gun Violence"...the rhetorical tautology that exposes anti-rights advocates for the callous human shit-birds that they are.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

BTW Australia only bans a few types of guns, Republicans, rightwingers, and the NRA dupes are just making stuff up. Get a clue dupes, the dupers are duping you - again.
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You are the dupe. Australia bans all guns. To get a gun, you have to prove you have a "genuine reason" for owning one. And self-defense doesn't count.


A "genuine reason". Good luck with that.

Christ, how many times have we heard the left wingers on this forum ask, "Why do you NEED an assault weapon?" This is EXACTLY the same reasoning used in Australia, and is in total violation of the Second Amendment.

You can be sure the Left would be howling and wailing over the First Amendment if someone made them prove they NEED midget porn.

Its the same in NYC, to get a handgun CCW, I need to prove to the NYPD my need for one.

That's New York for you.

Do you have to prove your need for a gun, or just the need to conceal carry?

John Stossel had a show about it a few months ago. He showed what he spent, how much time it took and what he had to go through to get a CCW. And then, the cops told him he didn't qualify.

I'm sure the video is out there on YouTube or something.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Got to love the gun nuts… They will find any where in the world to find some possible reason why guns don't cause gun violence…

Guns don't cause violence. That ought to be obvious. Violence is caused by one person making the willful choice to attempt to cause harm to another.

A gun or other weapon will enhance the ability of one who has made that choice, but it is not ever the cause.

But like a good wrong-winger, you will “find any where in the world to find some possible reason why” a criminal is not responsible for his own behavior, but rather to place the blame on an inanimate object.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

lol it's pretty funny that the gun nuts want the right to sell their guns to anyone they please but they don't want gun owners to have the right to sell their guns in a buyback program.

who cares

what mostly turns up at "buybacks" are junkie guns

most of the good guns are sold outside the door to legal buyers

which pay more then the buyback does

--LOL

I mostly agree that catch as catch can, local buyback programs in this country have resulted in junk guns getting turned in for junk money, but the OP started this thread by criticizing Hillary Clinton for citing Australia as a "good example" for commonsense gun regulation.

One of the main reasons Australia's gun regulations have been successful is Australia's gun regulations are a national program and only the most ideologically driven can perceive of Australia's commonsense gun regulations as the government "disarming" the citizenry. Of the 175 countries cited here, Australia is the 40th most armed country in the world and-----and since Australia implemented their stricter commonsense gun regulations, there haven't been any mass shootings and-----and there has been "no corresponding increase in non-firearm-related homicides. The drop in suicides by gun was even steeper" - here.

But just as a reminder to the wild-eyed gun nuts on this M/B, we live in America and while bits and pieces of Australia's commonsense gun regulations might/could/may be implementable in America, IMO full implementation of Australia's commonsense gun regulations will never happen here and will be correspondingly unsuccessful/failure.
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But according to National Review who looked beyond the gun restriction years, gun deaths and suicides were on the decline ten years prior to the ban. After the ban began, the trend continued downward at the same pace.

The only thing that did change was suicide rates not related to guns. After the gun ban went into effect, the non-gun suicide rates went down quickly, but of course, there is no relationship to that and gun restrictions.