Hillary Clinton suggests jailing Americans for posting "misinformation"



In 1919, the Supreme Court unanimously upheld Schenck and Baer’s convictions. Although they had argued that the conviction violated their right of free speech, Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes found there was no conflict between the Espionage Act and the Constitution. This is where the “theater” phrase comes in. Holmes used the analogy to introduce a truism: “The most stringent protection of free speech would not protect a man in falsely shouting fire in a theatre and causing a panic.” This prosecution, he argued, was like that scenario. The fact that the nation was involved in a war meant that “many things that might be said in time of peace are such a hindrance to its effort that their utterance will not be endured so long as men fight, and that no Court could regard them as protected by any constitutional right.”

That was overturned about 60 years ago.

Carry on.
 
Well I don't know about Crooks.... His background seems to be remarkably sanitized; But yeah the other guy was definitely a problem for a long time. I was just doing some reading up on him yesterday. He was an absolute, genuine fruit loop.

I strongly resist the tendency to try to assign a political affiliation to somebody like that because it just doesn't fit. Somebody who's gone to the point of taking a lethal weapon to kill political candidate is not a Democrat, not a Republican, not a rational person..... This is not even a political category it's a mental health category.
I really can't give your side a pass for that, given you guys insist the reason why civilians need weapons of war (like both of these clowns had despite their mental health issues) is to fight whatever you perceive as tyranny.

yes, we have a long history of crazy people taking shots at presidents or candidates - Hinkley, Moore, Fromme, Oswald, Giteau. They are almost never well people.
 
Another tried a true Neo-GOP tactic. Accuse me of something I didn't do. I said there are laws against spreading false information, and I gave a recent example. Not simply spreading information I personally disagree with. But you knew that.
OMG…..libs do that ALL THE TIME!
 
I really can't give your side a pass for that, given you guys insist the reason why civilians need weapons of war (like both of these clowns had despite their mental health issues) is to fight whatever you perceive as tyranny.

yes, we have a long history of crazy people taking shots at presidents or candidates - Hinkley, Moore, Fromme, Oswald, Giteau. They are almost never well people.
Life is a mutually assured existence with no guarantees. I know that there is a school of thought thinking that society will become safer with a repealed second amendment. I seriously doubt that that's true. I know people like to compare statistics to other civilized countries as proof of this. I don't think the statistic sets are necessarily complete either.

I also don't think any comparisons are perfect and the United States is just the United States.

Of course we'll never know until we try.... But you're probably never going to see it happen because there's almost certainly going to be an in-between period where things get much worse before they get better, if they get better.
 
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Opinions are one thing. Lies that get people hurt or killed are another.
And that's just it....the definition of the word lie is very loose and subject to the user's point of view. More often than not people accuse alternative opinions of being lies when really all they are is alternative opinions.
 
I would remind Hillary that the biggest pushers of misinformation are politicians, out of office politicians and the media. So if she wants to go down this road fine maybe she can reserve Jeffery Epstein’s old cell for herself. Yes I know Republicans including Trump engage in it as well.
 
And that's just it....the definition of the word lie is very loose and subject to the user's point of view.

I am the Queen of England. Is that a lie or just a different point of view?

I have a gun in my pocket but when the officer asks if I have a gun I tell him no, is that a lie or just a different point of view?

More often than not people accuse alternative opinions of being lies when really all they are is alternative opinions.

Sometimes and sometimes they are lies.
 
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