Hillary Clinton: Hamas Operates in Civilian Areas Because Gaza is a Small Place

[1776]

She is the same stupid **** that gave Russia a "reset" button.

Anyone that wants to elect that stupid ***** should have their brain removed for science.

 

[Jroc]

[MENTION=3135]jillian[/MENTION] [MENTION=46168]Statistikhengst[/MENTION]


The genus of Hillary Clinton...

Speaking to journalist Jorge Ramos yesterday, Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton suggested that Hamas operates in civilian populated areas in Gaza because it's "pretty small."

"The problem is, and this is something, I'm not a military planner but Hamas puts its missiles, its rockets in civilian areas, part of it is that Gaza's pretty small and it's very densely populated. They put their command and control of Hamas military leaders in those civilian areas," Clinton said.

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Well, @Jroc, hate to bust your bubble, but essentially, Hillary Clinton is right.

Gaza City is only 17 sq miles in size and has, according to latest estimates, just a little more than 500,000 inhabitants.

Gaza City - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

New York City, on the other hand, is 469 square miles (or 27.6 times larger than Gaza) and has between 20 - 23 million inhabitants.

New York City - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But it's not just the size, it' the construction. Streets tend to be narrower and things are generally much closer to each other, making it much harder to absolute pinpoint accuracy.

Now, if you think that comparing to NYC is not fair, let's compare Gaza City to Tel Aviv:

Tel Aviv is only 20 square miles, comparable in land size to Gaza City, but it houses 1.3 million people and springs to 3.5 million when you include the metro area.

Tel Aviv - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So, yes, compared to any really large city in the world, and even compared to Tel Aviv, Gaza City is "pretty small".

So, your problem with this?

Next time, do your homework and see that there was nothing silly about what Hillary Clinton said. Factually, she is actually quite correct.

@Jillian

[MENTION=46168]Statistikhengst[/MENTION]

Wow your way too smart for me Kinda funny Hillary didn't mention Hamas purposely placing weapons in peoples homes and also forcing people to stay in the line of fire, but what are these minor details to a leftist ideologue. all that matters is the ideology, promoting and defending those who are like minded at the expense of reality...really very disappointing really is

 

[kiwiman127]

[MENTION=3135]jillian[/MENTION] [MENTION=46168]Statistikhengst[/MENTION]


The genus of Hillary Clinton...





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymO0gYGKjNo

Well, @Jroc, hate to bust your bubble, but essentially, Hillary Clinton is right.

Gaza City is only 17 sq miles in size and has, according to latest estimates, just a little more than 500,000 inhabitants.

Gaza City - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

New York City, on the other hand, is 469 square miles (or 27.6 times larger than Gaza) and has between 20 - 23 million inhabitants.

New York City - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

But it's not just the size, it' the construction. Streets tend to be narrower and things are generally much closer to each other, making it much harder to absolute pinpoint accuracy.

Now, if you think that comparing to NYC is not fair, let's compare Gaza City to Tel Aviv:

Tel Aviv is only 20 square miles, comparable in land size to Gaza City, but it houses 1.3 million people and springs to 3.5 million when you include the metro area.

Tel Aviv - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So, yes, compared to any really large city in the world, and even compared to Tel Aviv, Gaza City is "pretty small".

So, your problem with this?

Next time, do your homework and see that there was nothing silly about what Hillary Clinton said. Factually, she is actually quite correct.

@Jillian

[MENTION=46168]Statistikhengst[/MENTION]

Wow your way too smart for me Kinda funny Hillary didn't mention Hamas purposely placing weapons in peoples homes and also forcing people to stay in the line of fire, but what are these minor details to a leftist ideologue. all that matters is the ideology, promoting and defending those who are like minded at the expense of reality...really very disappointing really is

Are you reading between the lines and find Clinton supporting Hamas?
Why not post facts showing Clinton has supported Hamas over Israel?
The way I read it is that Clinton is accurately describing a horrible situation in a densely populated area where Hamas's defense is using innocent children and adult as shields.
Not only that, by playing that game, Israel is coming off has the bad guy and maybe they are being a little over-aggressive.
It seems to me that Israel is playing into Hamas's PR advantage. How people can sympathize with Hamas blows me away. People should focus on those who brought the carnage on the innocent.
Anyway, this thread is in the right section, "Politics," because this thread is driven by the ideological divide and the partisanship that goes with it.

 

[1776]

Uh.....don't shoot missiles at a sovereign nation with a strong military from the land they gave you to create so-called peace, then whine that they come over and blow your asses to pieces.

 

[kiwiman127]

Uh.....don't shoot missiles at a sovereign nation with a strong military from the land they gave you to create so-called peace, then whine that they come over and blow your asses to pieces.

Isn't amazing that the aggressor has gathered most of the world's sympathy. Totally amazing.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Have you ever studied the martial arts?

Nope.

I have and if I asked a sparring partner to fight down to my level he would kick my ass even harder.

You can't even see my level, let alone play at it.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

It wouldn't occur to one such as you (or Hillary, evidently) that Hamas shouldn't conduct military operations from Gaza. Bad things often seem to happen to those hapless Gazans as a result ... not that you seem to care.

It's a war, where would you like they operate from? We hid behind walls to shoot the British, hid guns in houses. We're we bad people or were we fighting an unbalanced war against a better armed and organized enemy? Should we have just stood in the open in a field and yelled "shoot me"?

Hamas should stop trying to make war on Israel altogether but to do so would violate their Charter and we couldn't have that, right Princess?

That's correct little man...

 

[PaintMyHouse]

If Gaza is so small, then why do the media and the Democrats make such a big ******* deal about it?

Because the Jewish Nazis known as Zionist control it, and are now blowing it to pieces.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Nope.

You still intentionally ignore the fact that if they have hospitals and schools, then they most certainly have warehouses......and warehouses are a hell of a lot more humane as ammo depots than schools and hospitals.
So what you are saying is that you approve of them using schools and hospitals to protect their ammunition even though they have more humane places to store them.

And seeing as you believe Israel will blow up anything....then you are convinced that they will blow up that ammunition no matter where it is stored.

Which means they are storing the ammunition in schools and hospitals knowing Israel will blow them up.

If they know Israel will blow them up anyway, why don't they simply store them in warehouses so children and the sick don't die?

I like to see you squirm. Its funny. You dig deeper and deeper in an attempt to win....and then we get to a point where your "logic" is used against you.

Dam....you are too easy.

Little idiot, where they store it doesn't matter.

It doesn't matter where Hamas stores its rockets?

Nope, because the squatter nation doesn't care what it blows up as long as it survives, regardless of what price others have to pay.

 

[MaxGrit]

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[PaintMyHouse]

There is NO Debate! Hamas could hide weapons elsewhere, Israel could stop blowing up schools and hospitals. It's a war. There's no debate and the logic says both are wrong but it's a war and there's really no such thing in war, there is just war, and death, and madness.

You finally change your tune and admit that Hamas does not have to stash their rockets or conduct their war on Israel from schools and hospitals, which is exactly what Jarhead has been saying all along. That would certainly decrease the risk to those schools and hospitals and the civilians trapped within them.
Woo ... you are thick as a brick.

You store your weapons where you hope they won't be found, or blown up kids, that's war.

 

[Darkwind]

Nope.

You still intentionally ignore the fact that if they have hospitals and schools, then they most certainly have warehouses......and warehouses are a hell of a lot more humane as ammo depots than schools and hospitals.
So what you are saying is that you approve of them using schools and hospitals to protect their ammunition even though they have more humane places to store them.

And seeing as you believe Israel will blow up anything....then you are convinced that they will blow up that ammunition no matter where it is stored.

Which means they are storing the ammunition in schools and hospitals knowing Israel will blow them up.

If they know Israel will blow them up anyway, why don't they simply store them in warehouses so children and the sick don't die?

I like to see you squirm. Its funny. You dig deeper and deeper in an attempt to win....and then we get to a point where your "logic" is used against you.

Dam....you are too easy.

Little idiot, where they store it doesn't matter. If Israel was a decent nation, it would. They could store it all in one warehouse with a giant target painted on top but that would be stupid now wouldn't it, even though that's what you'd like them to do apparently and that's not war now is it?

You think Hamas are the bad guys here, fine, but they aren't, they are at war, so they hide weapons where they hope they won't be destroyed just like we made our arms factories look like little towns during WWII. They don't hide their weapons hoping for more slaughter, they hide their weapons where they hope their enemy is decent enough not to blow them up, but that's not Israel, nothing like it. See how that works now?

But...But....But.....

As you said, Israel will blow up anything.

So if they are going to blow up anything, they will most certainly blow up a school if it is storing ammo.

So why "take a chance" and hide it there?

Why not simply hide it in a warehouse and save the lives of the children.

Oh, and by the way.....the fact that you had to add in "paint a target on it" is a sign that you see the logic of using a warehouse, so the only way you can counter it is by exaggerating the situation.....you know....applying false logic.

Thus, why earlier, I said the only way you will be able to counter my logic is by using false logic.

And you did.

And you failed.

You know squat about debating. You are way too easy.

You may want to consider the fact that you are arguing with a NAZI who wants to see the extermination of Jews.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Little idiot, where they store it doesn't matter. If Israel was a decent nation, it would. They could store it all in one warehouse with a giant target painted on top but that would be stupid now wouldn't it, even though that's what you'd like them to do apparently and that's not war now is it?

You think Hamas are the bad guys here, fine, but they aren't, they are at war, so they hide weapons where they hope they won't be destroyed just like we made our arms factories look like little towns during WWII. They don't hide their weapons hoping for more slaughter, they hide their weapons where they hope their enemy is decent enough not to blow them up, but that's not Israel, nothing like it. See how that works now?

But...But....But.....

As you said, Israel will blow up anything.

So if they are going to blow up anything, they will most certainly blow up a school if it is storing ammo.

So why "take a chance" and hide it there?

Why not simply hide it in a warehouse and save the lives of the children.

Oh, and by the way.....the fact that you had to add in "paint a target on it" is a sign that you see the logic of using a warehouse, so the only way you can counter it is by exaggerating the situation.....you know....applying false logic.

Thus, why earlier, I said the only way you will be able to counter my logic is by using false logic.

And you did.

And you failed.

You know squat about debating. You are way too easy.

You may want to consider the fact that you are arguing with a NAZI who wants to see the extermination of Jews.

Just the Zionist ones, and the Zionist Christians as well.

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

If Gaza is so small, then why do the media and the Democrats make such a big ******* deal about it?

Because the Jewish Nazis known as Zionist control it, and are now blowing it to pieces.

Yea___ noooooooooooooooo.

 

[MaxGrit]

Little idiot, where they store it doesn't matter. If Israel was a decent nation, it would. They could store it all in one warehouse with a giant target painted on top but that would be stupid now wouldn't it, even though that's what you'd like them to do apparently and that's not war now is it?

You think Hamas are the bad guys here, fine, but they aren't, they are at war, so they hide weapons where they hope they won't be destroyed just like we made our arms factories look like little towns during WWII. They don't hide their weapons hoping for more slaughter, they hide their weapons where they hope their enemy is decent enough not to blow them up, but that's not Israel, nothing like it. See how that works now?

But...But....But.....

As you said, Israel will blow up anything.

So if they are going to blow up anything, they will most certainly blow up a school if it is storing ammo.

So why "take a chance" and hide it there?

Why not simply hide it in a warehouse and save the lives of the children.

Oh, and by the way.....the fact that you had to add in "paint a target on it" is a sign that you see the logic of using a warehouse, so the only way you can counter it is by exaggerating the situation.....you know....applying false logic.

Thus, why earlier, I said the only way you will be able to counter my logic is by using false logic.

And you did.

And you failed.

You know squat about debating. You are way too easy.

You may want to consider the fact that you are arguing with a NAZI who wants to see the extermination of Jews.

You should also consider the fact that PaintMyHouse is a blathering half-wit.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

But...But....But.....

As you said, Israel will blow up anything.

So if they are going to blow up anything, they will most certainly blow up a school if it is storing ammo.

So why "take a chance" and hide it there?

Why not simply hide it in a warehouse and save the lives of the children.

Oh, and by the way.....the fact that you had to add in "paint a target on it" is a sign that you see the logic of using a warehouse, so the only way you can counter it is by exaggerating the situation.....you know....applying false logic.

Thus, why earlier, I said the only way you will be able to counter my logic is by using false logic.

And you did.

And you failed.

You know squat about debating. You are way too easy.

You may want to consider the fact that you are arguing with a NAZI who wants to see the extermination of Jews.

You should also consider the fact that PaintMyHouse is a blathering half-wit.

You wish little man, boy do you ever...

 

[PaintMyHouse]

If Gaza is so small, then why do the media and the Democrats make such a big ******* deal about it?

Because the Jewish Nazis known as Zionist control it, and are now blowing it to pieces.

Yea___ noooooooooooooooo.

Yeah, yeah little buddy. Name me a country with no airport, no seaport, and no control their your own airspace? Take your time.

 

[jillian]

And we have this from Princess Nancy....

Pelosi: Hamas is a humanitarian organization. Is she delusional, or is it just me? | Allen B. West - AllenBWest.com

someone who thinks sarah palin isn't a moron really shouldn't opine about anyone else.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Must suck when schools for children are the only good spots to store ones inventory of rockets. We need to let more Islamic terrorists immigrate to America where they will have more room and assets to set up. Why should we only be letting millions of illegal south Americans in when we have enough room and money to save everyone on the planet?

Or we could stop arming and protecting the nation that stole their land, which they are at war against.

I see.

Let us simply walk away from an ally and expose them to a possible fate we are seeing throughout the region...

Leaving us with NO ONE in the region who we can count on if we need to conduct preventative operations in the area.....

Sounds like you don't give a shit about our future security.

So why you so hell bent on what kind of environment we are leaving our grandkids...with that global warming, cooling, climate change thingamajig

Israel is far more than capable of taking care of itself. When you take care of yourself, you learn discipline and learn about reality and consequence. That is just what they need and the only way to end Israeli aggression.

Israel would turn its back on the U.S. just because we don't pour out money and arms to them anymore.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Jeez...it is like you approve of their tactics without wanting to recognize that they have more humane options that are no less effective in storing their ammunition.

I answered, if you were smart enough to understand. And considering that Israel will blow up anything, their humane options are limited.

And I do approve of whatever they do to fight Israel, so far. They deserve their land back and those Zionist squatters pushed into the sea. Logical enough for you?

Nope.

You still intentionally ignore the fact that if they have hospitals and schools, then they most certainly have warehouses......and warehouses are a hell of a lot more humane as ammo depots than schools and hospitals.
So what you are saying is that you approve of them using schools and hospitals to protect their ammunition even though they have more humane places to store them.

And seeing as you believe Israel will blow up anything....then you are convinced that they will blow up that ammunition no matter where it is stored.

Which means they are storing the ammunition in schools and hospitals knowing Israel will blow them up.

If they know Israel will blow them up anyway, why don't they simply store them in warehouses so children and the sick don't die?

I like to see you squirm. Its funny. You dig deeper and deeper in an attempt to win....and then we get to a point where your "logic" is used against you.

Dam....you are too easy.

How many times were weapons stored in schools and how many times in warehouses. You are trying to make it look like they always store them in schools, when I believe it was a few or small number of isolated incidents compared to the number of times the weapons were stored in buildings, houses or warehouses? Provide the statistics accurately instead of painting a one-sided picture.