Hillary Clinton admits illegal immigration went too far: “It went too far, it’s been disruptive and destabilizing.”

[BrokeLoser]

when did that become a law?

Since the purple hair nose ringing Marxists / pknopp / the dark people who have broke in by the tens of millions have used it against us with success in the court of public opinion.

 

[j-mac]

I never said that we have to accept anyone without question. So.........

But in essence that’s what you’re arguing…

1. You say we have treaty’s so we must accept them.

2. You say they’re here, so they must stay.

3. We can’t round them up and send them home

4. Because France gave the US a statue with a poem on it, we must accept them.

Oh, and a bunch of other shit that has no bearing, and you won’t explain, so it’s meaningless.

So, how’s that different from accepting all without question?

Make it make sense.

 

[pknopp]

But in essence that’s what you’re arguing…

1. You say we have treaty’s so we must accept them.

2. You say they’re here, so they must stay.

3. We can’t round them up and send them home

4. Because France gave the US a statue with a poem on it, we must accept them.

Oh, and a bunch of other shit that has no bearing, and you won’t explain, so it’s meaningless.

So, how’s that different from accepting all without question?

Make it make sense.

You can continue to make things up but I'm not obligated to address it.

 

[j-mac]

You can continue to make things up but I'm not obligated to address it.

You are a bad faith debater.

 

[Lockback]

You are a bad faith debater.

He's a mass debater.

 

[1srelluc]

But in essence that’s what you’re arguing…

1. You say we have treaty’s so we must accept them.

2. You say they’re here, so they must stay.

3. We can’t round them up and send them home

4. Because France gave the US a statue with a poem on it, we must accept them.

Oh, and a bunch of other shit that has no bearing, and you won’t explain, so it’s meaningless.

So, how’s that different from accepting all without question?

Make it make sense.

Because France gave the US a statue with a poem on it, we must accept them.

LOL....And it took nine years to find enough money to stick it in NY Harbor.....Now it's been reduced to a movie prop.

 

[Eman623]

The vast majority who came did not come illegally. They came to the borders and claimed amnesty.

Now one can argue that under those facts too many were permitted to do that but the argument should be factual.

Actually, they claimed asylum, not amnesty.

And if they knowingly fabricated a persecution story, lied to a border agent or submitted fraudulent documentation of said persecution, then that is a crime.

 

[pknopp]

Actually, they claimed asylum, not amnesty.

sorry, yes, my mistake.

And if they knowingly fabricated a persecution story, lied to a border agent or submitted fraudulent documentation of said persecution, then that is a crime.

Sure. I never argued otherwise.

 

[j-mac]

Actually, they claimed asylum, not amnesty.

And if they knowingly fabricated a persecution story, lied to a border agent or submitted fraudulent documentation of said persecution, then that is a crime.

This World Refugee Day, Let's Address Fraudulent Asylum Claims That Are Detrimental to Legitimate Asylum Seekers

June 20 is World Refugee Day, and as we remember the plight of millions of refugees stranded around the world, it is important to call attention to those who abuse the asylum system by falsely claiming persecution simply to get into a country.

cis.org

 

[The Irish Ram]

The vast majority who came did not come illegally. They came to the borders and claimed amnesty.

Now one can argue that under those facts too many were permitted to do that but the argument should be factual.

Hordes and hordes flooded our border. If someone was fleeing a country, then they are done fleeing when they cross the border into another country. All those "refugees" were no longer refugees when they crossed over into Mexico. No need to go one step further...

 

[jknowgood]

Can I still apply for asylum if I am in the United States illegally ?

Yes.............

Read it yourself.

Questions and Answers: Affirmative Asylum Eligibility and Applications | USCIS

If you were placed in expedited removal proceedings, you received a positive credible fear determination, and USCIS retained your asylum application for further consideration in an Asylum Merits Interview, please visit our Asylum Merits Interview with USCIS: Processing After a Positive Credible...

www.uscis.gov

Just popping up in the United States doesn't give you asylum. There have to be good reasons for leaving your country, not just coming here to get benefits.

 

[pknopp]

Just popping up in the United States doesn't give you asylum.

I never said it did. Why do you and others continue to do this?

There have to be good reasons for leaving your country, not just coming here to get benefits.

OK, and?

 

[leftwinger]

Hordes and hordes flooded our border. If someone was fleeing a country, then they are done fleeing when they cross the border into another country. All those "refugees" were no longer refugees when they crossed over into Mexico. No need to go one step further...

We all saw the video of the Trains packed on top like India, the "caravaans" of 10,000. Mexico bussing up double decker AC busses, Obiden flying in 747 loads straight to interior cities. Yet they still want to say "it did not happen". 10,000 per day let thru in peak time swarming the border checkpoints (yes there is more than one affected). No way to vett them....nothing to do but wave them thru to Dirty NGO org tables to sign them up for GOVT services. STAIN sucketh.//

 

[Eman623]

I never said it did. Why do you and others continue to do this?

Because you said "The vast majority who came did not come illegally. They came to the borders and claimed amnesty."

If someone did not have a legitimate asylum claim and lied about having one, then they did come here illegally.

It appears that the vast majority who came during Biden's administration and claimed asylum did so illegally.

 

[pknopp]

Because you said "The vast majority who came did not come illegally. They came to the borders and claimed amnesty."

If someone did not have a legitimate asylum claim and lied about having one, then they did come here illegally.

Do you have examples of those who outright lied? I also clearly noted that if their claims are not applicable the result should be deportation.

 

[Nostra]

Do you have examples of those who outright lied? I also clearly noted that if their claims are not applicable the result should be deportation.

This clown thinks criminal illegals don’t lie.



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[Eman623]

Do you have examples of those who outright lied? I also clearly noted that if their claims are not applicable the result should be deportation.

In the 2009-2019 timeframe, only about 20-30% of claimed asylees are actually granted asylum.

The truth is, about 20 to 30 percent of asylum requests have been granted annually since 2009, but experts said that does not mean that the remaining 70 to 80 percent of cases are invalid. There are many reasons why an asylum case might otherwise be dismissed or closed.

Are the vast majority of asylum claims without merit?

During an appearance on" The View" in early May, U.S. Rep. Dan Crenshaw sparred with host Sunny Hostin as they discussed

www.politifact.com

The Biden admin did essentially no vetting at the border and simply waved in 12 million people, causing asylum claims to skyrocket. Unless there was a spike of political persecutions between 2021-2025, the percentage who have legitimate claims is far smaller now.

The cartels are not run by stupid people. If you paid them to get you into the USA, they will coach you on what to say to get in.

 

[pknopp]

This clown thinks criminal illegals don’t lie.



.

It's not just criminal illegals that lie.

 

[Nostra]

It's not just criminal illegals that lie.

Correct. You lie too.

 

[pknopp]

In the 2009-2019 timeframe, only about 20-30% of claimed asylees are actually granted asylum.

The truth is, about 20 to 30 percent of asylum requests have been granted annually since 2009, but experts said that does not mean that the remaining 70 to 80 percent of cases are invalid. There are many reasons why an asylum case might otherwise be dismissed or closed.

Are the vast majority of asylum claims without merit?

During an appearance on" The View" in early May, U.S. Rep. Dan Crenshaw sparred with host Sunny Hostin as they discussed

www.politifact.com

The Biden admin did essentially no vetting at the border and simply waved in 12 million people, causing asylum claims to skyrocket. Unless there was a spike of political persecutions between 2021-2025, the percentage who have legitimate claims is far smaller now.

The cartels are not run by stupid people. If you paid them to get you into the USA, they will coach you on what to say to get in.

It always seems to come down to this. I in no way argued for what Biden did.