Hillary and Margaret Sanger

[rightwinger]

Cain’s False Attack on Planned Parenthood

Sanger says that a minister could debunk the notion, if it arose, that the clinics aimed to “exterminate the Negro population.” She didn’t say that she wanted to “exterminate” the black population. The Margaret Sanger Papers Project at New York University says that this quote has “gone viral on the Internet,” normally out of context, and it “doesn’t reflect the fact that Sanger recognized elements within the black community might mistakenly associate the Negro Project with racist sterilization campaigns in the Jim Crow south, unless clergy and other community leaders spread the word that the Project had a humanitarian aim.”

It goes on to characterize beliefs such as Cain’s as “extremist.” The project says: “No serious scholar and none of the dozens of black leaders who supported Sanger’s work have ever suggested that she tried to reduce the black population or set up black abortion mills, the implication in much of the extremist anti-choice material.”

LOL, nice try but her racism is well documented. you FAIL once again.

Like they say...only nut jobs like yourself have that view

No serious scholar and none of the dozens of black leaders who supported Sanger’s work have ever suggested that she tried to reduce the black population or set up black abortion mills, the implication in much of the extremist anti-choice material

https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/264856.Margaret_Sanger


read and learn, especially the one about speaking at a KKK meeting. We all know the purpose of the KKK, right? Sanger and the KKK believed the same things.

you can stick your head in the sand (or up Hillary's ass) if you choose. but the truth is that Sanger was the ultimate racist and Hillary considers her a wonderful person.

Sanger spoke to women KKK members

I think encouraging female klan members not to reproduce is a good idea

funny, but you obviously did not read the quote. she supported KKK efforts to eliminate the unfit and defective-------as defined by the KKK.

It wasn't just the klan, it was a common sociological belief at the time. It would be hard to find anyone in 1920s America who felt otherwise

 

[JoeB131]

It's never been debunked, because YOU claim it means nothing, you're wrong 99.9% of the time. Sanger was a racist who supported murdering babies....a democrat hero if ever there were one.

are you arguing that Birth Control is racist? Or that anyone today really thinks it's a bad thing?

What does FatIrishSow use for birth control? Her personality.

 

[rightwinger]

Sanger was way ahead of her time in understanding the significance of family planning

Great woman

She wanted the negro race exterminated...that's a great woman? Really?

She wanted no such thing......already debunked

It's never been debunked, because YOU claim it means nothing, you're wrong 99.9% of the time. Sanger was a racist who supported murdering babies....a democrat hero if ever there were one.

NAACP says differently

Sharpton owes 4.5 million in back taxes. Farrakhan has called on his members to murder 10,000 whites. what's your point?

Damn boy!
Move that goalpost

 

[SassyIrishLass]

It's never been debunked, because YOU claim it means nothing, you're wrong 99.9% of the time. Sanger was a racist who supported murdering babies....a democrat hero if ever there were one.

are you arguing that Birth Control is racist? Or that anyone today really thinks it's a bad thing?

What does FatIrishSow use for birth control? Her personality.

Grow up Old man, I've told you before I have no use for your childish little antics...and get past I take anything you spew serious...I take no left loon serious, not a one of you miserable little nothings

 

[LoneLaugher]

NYC, please post a link to anything stating Sanger was against abortions as YOU claim.

Margaret Sanger’s Views on Abortion

 

[JoeB131]

NYC, please post a link to anything stating Sanger was against abortions as YOU claim.

Here you go, Buddy, from no less than Right Wing Redstate.com

What Did Margaret Sanger Think about Abortion? | RedState

While there are cases where even the law recognizes an abortion as justifiable if recommended by a physician, I assert that the hundreds of thousands of abortions performed in America each year are a disgrace to civilization.

 

[JoeB131]

Grow up Old man, I've told you before I have no use for your childish little antics...and get past I take anything you spew serious...I take no left loon serious, not a one of you miserable little nothings

Yes, you are so ignoring me you melt down every time I mock you.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Your quote isn't there.

I didn't get the wording exactly right, but her message is clear, Planned parenthood was designed to reduce the black birth rate by killing unborn black babies.

Birth control does not kill babies. Are you calling legal birth control racist now?

lol

WTF is wrong with you? birth control and abortion are two completely different things.

Sanger opposed abortion. Your references are to birth control. Is birth control racist?

AHAHAHAHAHA @ Sanger opposed abortion....it's obvious you don't have the very first clue what Sanger was about. You'd be wise to shush, you look like a fool

In her own words:

While there are cases where even the law recognizes an abortion as justifiable if recommended by a physician, I assert that the hundreds of thousands of abortions performed in America each year are a disgrace to civilization.

Now shut up.

The Public Papers of Margaret Sanger: Web Edition

 

[LoneLaugher]

/thread

 

[SassyIrishLass]

The most merciful thing that the large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it.

Woman and the New Race, ch. 6: “The Wickedness of Creating Large Families.” Here, Sanger argues that, because the conditions of large families tend to involve poverty and illness, it is better for everyone involved if a child’s life is snuffed out before he or she has a chance to pose difficulties to its family.

Woman And The New Race: Margaret Sanger: 9781162717623: Amazon.com: Books

 

[JoeB131]

The unfortunate thing is that they are taking words out of context of not only the larger statement, but of the time.

Sanger did have some goofy views on Eugenics, but the thing was, in the first half of the 20th century, this was considered to be solid science. at least until Hitler bastardized the science of it and used it as an excuse to murder people. (He also used Christianity as an excuse, but no one says anything about that for some reason.)

 

[HenryBHough]

Sanger was on target about birth control
Sanger also advocated what amounts to genocide.
Hitler made the trains run on time.
Hitler also advocated genocide.

So.....

One of the above is a hero of the left for the "good" she did.
Why is not the other also one of their heroes for the "good" he did?

Oh, wait, SHE had a vagina so could do NO wrong.
Thing is, ya buys the fish you gets the WHOLE fish.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Margaret Sanger "Negroes are human weeds that must be eliminated"

Hillary "I admire Margaret Sanger and the work she has done"

Do you get it, African americans? Do you understand?

The ignorance of this thread premise is exceeded only by its stupidity.

 

[easyt65]

Hmmmm

 

[LoneLaugher]

Nutbags can convince themselves of anything. It's precisely why they can't gain control of the nation. Their world view requires bullshit as fuel.

 

[JoeB131]

Woman and the New Race, ch. 6: “The Wickedness of Creating Large Families.” Here, Sanger argues that, because the conditions of large families tend to involve poverty and illness, it is better for everyone involved if a child’s life is snuffed out before he or she has a chance to pose difficulties to its family.

so, um, why not quote what she actually said - IN CONTEXT - rather than just paraphrasing it.

Again, are you actually arguing birth control is a bad thing?

Okay, here's the context of the quote that FatIrishSow just posted. If you actually read the sentence in the CONTEXT of the source (which is not the one FIS cited) Sanger's concern is the link between infant mortality and large families at a time period when the infant mortality rate was 15% (as opposed to today where it is less than 1%)

Thus we see that the second and third children have a very good chance to live through the first year. Children arriving later have less and less chance, until the twelfth has hardly any chance at all to live twelve months.

This does not complete the case, however, for those who care to go farther into the subject will find that many of those who live for a year die before they reach the age of five.

Many, perhaps, will think it idle to go farther in demonstrating the immorality of large families, but since there is still an abundance of proof at hand, it may be offered for the sake of those who find difficulty in adjusting old-fashioned ideas to the facts. The most merciful thing that the large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it. The same factors which create the terrible infant mortality rate, and which swell the death rate of children between the ages of one and five, operate even more extensively to lower the health rate of the surviving members.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Hmmmm

That's not much of a retraction. You'll want to say something like:

"I was wrong. I have been misled about what Maragret Sanger believed regarding abortion. In reality, she opposed the practice of abortion. I will no longer repeat the misinformation. My apologies for being such a thoughtless lemming"

 

[NYcarbineer]

Sanger was on target about birth control
Sanger also advocated what amounts to genocide.
Hitler made the trains run on time.
Hitler also advocated genocide.

So.....

One of the above is a hero of the left for the "good" she did.
Why is not the other also one of their heroes for the "good" he did?

Oh, wait, SHE had a vagina so could do NO wrong.
Thing is, ya buys the fish you gets the WHOLE fish.

So we should outlaw birth control because it's racist?

 

[2aguy]

Right, great woman, the ultimate racist.

So anyone who uses birth control or wants it to be legal and available is a racist?

Of course not, but anyone who declares that blacks are not fully human and should be eliminated is clearly a racist.

She never said that. How many times to you have to be told.

read it, dingleberry

"We should hire three or four colored ministers, preferably with social-service backgrounds, and with engaging personalities. The most successful educational approach to the Negro is through a religious appeal. We don’t want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members"

Cain’s False Attack on Planned Parenthood

Sanger says that a minister could debunk the notion, if it arose, that the clinics aimed to “exterminate the Negro population.” She didn’t say that she wanted to “exterminate” the black population. The Margaret Sanger Papers Project at New York University says that this quote has “gone viral on the Internet,” normally out of context, and it “doesn’t reflect the fact that Sanger recognized elements within the black community might mistakenly associate the Negro Project with racist sterilization campaigns in the Jim Crow south, unless clergy and other community leaders spread the word that the Project had a humanitarian aim.”

It goes on to characterize beliefs such as Cain’s as “extremist.” The project says: “No serious scholar and none of the dozens of black leaders who supported Sanger’s work have ever suggested that she tried to reduce the black population or set up black abortion mills, the implication in much of the extremist anti-choice material.”

Many democrat slave owners believed they were actually helping their black slaves too....

 

[LoneLaugher]

Threads like this should be required reading for new members.