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It is tough to know what to believe these days. I do not have enough time to sift through the evidence and make a truely educated opinion. Is a conspriracy like this possible,yes. The good news is it is not up to me to make these types of deterniation. I will let the two sides fight it out and hope the true side wins. We have courts and jury for such things. The truth has it's way of showing it self eventually.And you read through it huh. What engineering degree do you have?Engineers are extremely practicle people. When they put thier stamp on something it means they know it will do the job. When they speak I listen to what they have to say. They tend to n ot have very many crack pots among them. If you think our government is incapable of doing such under handed things think again. Tuskegee is a perfect example of this.The Flat Earth society has PHDs of all sorts as well as all sorts of other professionals.
There are far more engineers that debunk this junk than support it, why do you not agree with them instead.
It is not that I think our government is incapable of doing such, it is the evidence that these groups provide is weak and been debunked.
I also do not have any faith in mankind to keep such a thing a secret, we are not very good at that.
Yes, I have read a great deal on the subject, both pro and con Conspiracy theory.
The evidence against the CT is far greater than the evidence for it.
I do not have a degree in engineering, that is why I read information from those that do.
Not unlike with the Flat Earth society, I do not have a degree in physics, or geology or the like, but I read the data from both sides and determine that the earth is indeed a globe and not flat.
I buy into almost no CTs as again I do not have faith in people's ability to keep secrets.
Plus....there is the self-evident truth to the following:
If you get into motives of why to do this in the first place--supposedly to terrorize the public to authorize use of force in the Middle East, hijacking 3 planes and crashing them into the twin towers and trying to hit the US Capitol is a good way to do it. The fourth plane, AA77 though, is probably the biggest single piece of evidence of no inside job. Because the alternative story was that a missile hit the Pentagon. If you REALLY wanted to terrorize the public, a band of guys running around with a missile that can be fired at any time at any building would be a shitload more terror-inducing than a fourth hijacked plane.
To hijack a plane, you have to have someone get control of the cockpit. Pretty easy.
For this phantom missile launch, you have to have a missile, a launcher and some way to get out of the area/region undetected. That would scare me a lot more than a plane being flown into a building.
This a small part of the list on the website PatriotsQuestion911.com
U.S. MILITARY OFFICERS
And the shills of Langley here can only sling shit in defeat like the monkey trols they are.lol
Major General Albert Stubblebine
Military Intelligence Hall of Fame.
- Video interview 6/28/09:
General Stubblebine: I am Major General Albert Stubblebine. I am retired Army Major-General. In my last assignment -- my last command -- I was responsible for all of the Army's strategic intelligence forces around the world. I had responsibility for the Signals Intelligence, Photo Intelligence, Counter Intelligence, Human Intelligence. They all belonged to me, in my last assignment. …
I was supposed to find out what the enemy was doing, before the enemy did it so that we could take action against the enemy. That's Intelligence, OK, before the fact. So, we always -- always -- rely not on a single piece of data, before we make a statement, but on multiple and the more pieces of data that you have that correlate, the better you know exactly what is going on. …
So I have had a lot of experience looking at photographs. I have looked at many, many different kinds of photographs, from many, many different platforms on many, many different countries, around the world.
Interviewer: OK. So on September the 11th, in 2001, what hit the Pentagon?
General Stubblebine: I don't know exactly what hit it, but I do know, from the photographs that I have analyzed and looked at very, very carefully, it was not an airplane.
Interviewer: What made you believe that?
General Stubblebine: Well, for one thing, if you look at the hole that was made in the Pentagon, the nose penetrated far enough so that there should have been wing marks on the walls of the Pentagon. I have been unable to find those wing marks. So where were they? Did this vessel -- vehicle, or whatever it was -- have wings? Apparently not, because if it had had wings, they would have made marks on the side of the Pentagon.
One person counteracted my theory, and said, "Oh, you've got it all wrong. And the reason that it's wrong is that as the airplane came across, one wing tipped down and hit the ground and broke off." I said, "Fine, that's possible, one wing could have broken off." But if I understand airplanes correctly, most airplanes have two wings. I haven't met an airplane with only one wing. So where was the mark for the second wing? OK, one broke off -- there should have been a mark for the second wing. I could not find that in any of the photographs that I've analyzed. Now I've been very careful to not say what went in there. Why? Because you don't have that evidence. …
I did -- I've never believed that it was an airplane since I've looked at the photographs. Up until the time I looked at the photographs, I accepted what was being said. After I looked at it -- NO WAY! …
We pride ourselves with the "free press." I do not believe the "free press" is free any more. It's very expensive. It's very expensive. And the press is saying what they have been told to say about this.
Now, do I have proof of that? No. But I believe that what is being -- what certainly the -- the stories that were told -- all about 9/11 were false. I mean, you take a look at the buildings falling down. They didn't fall down because airplanes hit them. They fell down because of explosives went off inside. Demolition. Look at Building 7, for God's sake. It didn't fall down to its side. It didn't fall to this direction or that direction; just like the two Towers. …
When you look at the temperatures that you can create with fuel in a gas tank or a fuel tank of an airplane, and then you investigate the amount of heat that would be required to melt -- to melt -- the superstructure of the buildings that came tumbling down, when you put all of that together, the one thing that shows; It does not match the facts. What is it they do not want the public to know?
- Video documentary One Nation Under Siege 7/11/06: "One of my experiences in the Army was being in charge of the Army’s Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence during the Cold War. I measured pieces of Soviet equipment from photographs. It was my job. I look at the hole in the Pentagon and I look at the size of an airplane that was supposed to have hit the Pentagon. And I said, ‘The plane does not fit in that hole’. So what did hit the Pentagon? What hit it? Where is it? What's going on?" http://www.undersiegemovie.com
- Editor's note: For more information on the impact at the Pentagon, see Colonel Nelson, Commander Muga, Lt. Col. Kwiatkowski, Lt. Col. Latas, Major Rokke, Capt. Wittenberg, Capt. Davis, Barbara Honegger, April Gallop, Colonel Bunel, and Steve DeChiaro.
Col. Ronald D. Ray
http://www.propagandamatrix.com
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Alex Jones: Colonel, is it safe to say or is the statement accurate that you smell something rotten in the state of Denmark when it comes to 9/11?
Col. Ray: I'm astounded that the conspiracy theory advanced by the administration could in fact be true and the evidence does not seem to suggest that that's accurate. That's true.
Capt. Edgar Mitchell, Apollo Astronaut, Sixth Man to Walk on the Moon
Institute of Noetic Sciences.
- Endorser of and proposed Commissioner of a New Investigation into 9/11 as described in the New York City Ballot Initiative 11/08: "Petition to Create a NYC Independent Commission with Subpoena Power to Conduct a Comprehensive and Fact-Driven Investigation of All Relevant Aspects of the Tragic Events of September 11, 2001 and Issue a Report.
WHEREAS, many New York City voters believe that there remain many unanswered questions critical to establishing the truth about all relevant events leading up to, during and subsequent to the tragic attacks occurring on September 11, 2001 (“9/11”), and
WHEREAS, no prior investigation by any New York City agency or any other governmental entity has resulted in the citizens being provided with those critical answers or information necessary to establish the truth about those tragic events, ...
An independent, temporary New York City commission (the “Commission”) is hereby created to conduct a comprehensive, factdriven investigation into the events that took place on 9/11, as well as to thoroughly examine related events before and after the attacks, including any activities attempting to hide, cover up, impede or obstruct any investigation into these 9/11 events, following wherever the facts may lead. The Commission shall publish one or more reports of their findings."
- Website: http://www.edmitchellapollo14.com
Lt. Col. Robert Bowman, PhD, Director of Advanced Space Programs Development under Presidents Ford and Carter. Air Force fighter pilot, over 100 combat missions. PhD in Aeronautics, Nuclear Engineering.
- Video 9/11/04: "A lot of these pieces of information, taken together, prove that the official story, the official conspiracy theory of 9/11 is a bunch of hogwash. It’s impossible. … There’s a second group of facts having to do with the cover up. … Taken together these things prove that high levels of our government don’t want us to know what happened and who’s responsible.…
Who gained from 9/11? Who covered up crucial information about 9/11? And who put out the patently false stories about 9/11 in the first place? When you take those three things together, I think the case is pretty clear that it’s highly placed individuals in the administration with all roads passing through Dick Cheney.
I think the very kindest thing that we can say about George W. Bush and all the people in the U.S. Government that have been involved in this massive cover-up, the very kindest thing we can say is that they were aware of impending attacks and let them happen. Now some people will say that’s much too kind, however even that is high treason and conspiracy to commit murder." http://video.go
- Member: Pilots for 9/11 Truth Association Statement: "Pilots for 9/11 Truth is an organization of aviation professionals and pilots throughout the globe that have gathered together for one purpose. We are committed to seeking the truth surrounding the events of the 11th of September 2001. Our main focus concentrates on the four flights, maneuvers performed and the reported pilots. We do not offer theory or point blame. However, we are focused on determining the truth of that fateful day since the United States Government doesn't seem to be very forthcoming with answers."
- Website: http://www.thepatriots.us
Col. George Nelson, MBA
http://www.physics911.net
- Member: Scientific Panel Investigating Nine-Eleven Association Statement: "We have found solid scientific grounds on which to question the interpretation put upon the events of September 11, 2001 by the Office of the President of the United States of America and subsequently propagated by the major media of western nations."
Col. Ann Wright
- How could our national intelligence and defense operations be so inept that they could not communicate; that they could not scramble jets; that they could not take defensive action? And I totally agree. I always thought the Pentagon had all sorts of air defense sort of equipment around it; that they could take out anything that was coming at it. And for a plane to be able to just fly low right over Washington and slam into that thing is just -- I mean, you still just shake your head. How in the world could that happen? ...
There's a very specific glide path that comes in for planes to land at [Reagan] National Airport [one mile from the Pentagon]. And you know whether it's somebody using a different transponder but even a plane any plane, a military plane with a transponder going -- that was flying that low into Washington, a big plane like that should have set off alarm bells." Occurs at about the 60% point of the two-hour recording. Audio at http://www.911truth.org
Col. Donn de Grand-Pre
27th Infantry "Wolfhound" Regiment in Korea 1950 - 1953. Sustained major injuries in Korea 1953. FAA certified private pilot.
MUCH MORE AT PatriotsQuestion911.com
- "The so-called terrorist attack was in fact a superbly executed military operation carried out against the USA, requiring the utmost professional military skill in command, communications and control. It was flawless in timing, in the choice of selected aircraft to be used as guided missiles and in the coordinated delivery of those missiles to their pre-selected targets."
It is tough to know what to believe these days. I do not have enough time to sift through the evidence and make a truely educated opinion. Is a conspriracy like this possible,yes. The good news is it is not up to me to make these types of deterniation. I will let the two sides fight it out and hope the true side wins. We have courts and jury for such things. The truth has it's way of showing it self eventually.And you read through it huh. What engineering degree do you have?Engineers are extremely practicle people. When they put thier stamp on something it means they know it will do the job. When they speak I listen to what they have to say. They tend to n ot have very many crack pots among them. If you think our government is incapable of doing such under handed things think again. Tuskegee is a perfect example of this.The Flat Earth society has PHDs of all sorts as well as all sorts of other professionals.
There are far more engineers that debunk this junk than support it, why do you not agree with them instead.
It is not that I think our government is incapable of doing such, it is the evidence that these groups provide is weak and been debunked.
I also do not have any faith in mankind to keep such a thing a secret, we are not very good at that.
Yes, I have read a great deal on the subject, both pro and con Conspiracy theory.
The evidence against the CT is far greater than the evidence for it.
I do not have a degree in engineering, that is why I read information from those that do.
Not unlike with the Flat Earth society, I do not have a degree in physics, or geology or the like, but I read the data from both sides and determine that the earth is indeed a globe and not flat.
I buy into almost no CTs as again I do not have faith in people's ability to keep secrets.
Plus....there is the self-evident truth to the following:
If you get into motives of why to do this in the first place--supposedly to terrorize the public to authorize use of force in the Middle East, hijacking 3 planes and crashing them into the twin towers and trying to hit the US Capitol is a good way to do it. The fourth plane, AA77 though, is probably the biggest single piece of evidence of no inside job. Because the alternative story was that a missile hit the Pentagon. If you REALLY wanted to terrorize the public, a band of guys running around with a missile that can be fired at any time at any building would be a shitload more terror-inducing than a fourth hijacked plane.
To hijack a plane, you have to have someone get control of the cockpit. Pretty easy.
For this phantom missile launch, you have to have a missile, a launcher and some way to get out of the area/region undetected. That would scare me a lot more than a plane being flown into a building.
So you want to have an evil organization the FBI lock up patriots who expose the truth 9/11 was an inside job,gotcha.BROTHERS AND SISTERS:
let me inject sanity into this debate!
there are people who are writing letters to US troops overseas telling them 9/11 was an inside job. these folks should be locked up! send over the FBI, put them in chains
LOCK THEM UP! LOCK THEM UP! LOCK THEM UP! LOCK THEM UP! LOCK THEM UP!
