Hey Barack, why so socialist?

[Polk]

Was post #3 prophetic, or what??!?!?!???

You knew someone would call you out on your attempt to rewrite the meanings of a word to fit your political rally cry of the moment, so you go ahead and make a comment about it so you can act all smug and pretend like you're clever.

 

[Polk]

Meister, stop driveling and pay attention. The parcel and post and delivery industries have competed with the USPS very well for a very long time. Health insurance reform is not universal health care reform. Government regulati.on is not socialism. Breathe into a paper bag, if you have to, and calm down.

Government regulation is not socialism, I agree.

Redistribution of wealth, bailouts, nationalizing banks and auto industry is.

The banks and auto industry haven't been nationalized.

 

[Polk]

Any step toward government control and regulation of the economy is socialism. That includes the mere existence of the SEC and IRS.

Regulation (i.e. to make regular) is not any kind of attempt to control the economy.

Given the recent failures of the SEC to do their job and the history of IRS thuggery, your examples of allegedly beneficial "regulating" agencies leaves much to be desired.

And this is why the Republicans can't be trusted with power. They define their political existence on the idea that "the government is a problem", so you elect them to run the government, they make problems, and then say "see, we told you the government screws everything up".

 

[Polk]

How about Obama's advocating a national health care system? Isn't that government administration in the free market?

Except Obama isn't advocating a national health care system. He's advocating subsidies for existing health care companies. He's not proposing seizing hospitals and making doctors government employees.

How about Obama's advocating the cap and trade system? Isn't that government administration in the free market?

Regulating the amount of pollution put into the air isn't nationalizing an industry.

How about Obama's advocating the nationalization of the banks? Government administration once again.

Obama hasn't advocated bank nationalization. The banks have been given loans by the government, but those loans have very few conditions attached to them.

How about Obama's advocating the national takeover of the auto industry? Here's a quick summary of that particular administration where you could see some real "micromanaging" occurring:

Obama's takeover of the American auto industry is so breathtaking in scope and power that it proves all the RNC's accusations about socialism. The takeover was followed by orders to close 789 local Chrysler dealers, notices to 1,100 General Motors franchises that they will be shut down by next year and estimates that total dealer shutdowns will rise to 3,000.

Some of these local dealerships have been family-owned for generations. The Chrysler and GM dealership closings are estimated to eliminate 187,000 jobs, which is more than the number of people who work for the two automakers.

Now we can see the icing on the cake for the politicians who use economic dictatorship to punish those who resist socialist planners. Nearly every one of the closed local dealerships had donated to Republican candidates, almost none was an Obama contributor, and some dealerships owned by Democrats are not getting the ax.

These closings come after Obama's extraordinary cash and stock favoritism to one of his principal campaign supporters, the United Auto Workers union. The car czar, Steve Rattner, was a top Democratic fundraiser (surprise, surprise!).

Obama Is Remaking America Into Socialism - HUMAN EVENTS

Why do you liberals refuse to admit what is happening right in front of you?

As if, you know, if GM had filed for bankruptcy, they wouldn't have shed those dealer contracts.

 

[Polk]

Hitler was not a socialist. He was smart enough to know that socialism does not work. He adopted an FDR type fascism. He placed private industry under heavy state control.

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Socialism and fascism are so structurally closely related that the differences are hardly worth mentioning, except for chin-stroking academic pinhead types who make thir livings picking flecks of pepper out of piles of manure.

That Willy Messerschmitt got to hang his shingle on his airplane factories and Mikoyan and Gurevich didn't is of extremely little consequence.

There is a huge difference between industries being privately owned and industries, while still be captives of the state, held by their previous owners.

 

[Polk]

When was this article written? Obama ran a centrist campaign, and has moved left, and it looks like this article is way outdated. but, be it not me to point that out to you. carry on....

How has he moved left? He promised a health care package, and he is trying to deliver one. But he didn't anticipate needing a stimulus package when he was campaigning. Obama has always strongly favored energy independence, and that's also on the table (with cap and trade probably not going to happen as part thereof). Obama is still strong on improving education standards; getting more kids into college; job training.

Those are all typical "Democratic" interests, which have long been ignored. Obama is no more "left" of center than he's ever been.

Yet, he promised to reach across the isle and make it happen. It's the only thing that made him centrist during the campaign, just until he was elected. Then he came out of closet...

He's consistently reached across the aisle and has only been spit on by the Republican leadership for his efforts.

 

[Polk]

I mentioned earlier that government is proposing takeover of subway and light-rail systems.

It won't stop there. I don't know if anyone noticed last month proposal of taking over our 401(k). One version of the plan is to tax the high earners 401(k), and another version is to do the same thing they did with Social Security (issuing government bonds for it).

Congress mulls major 401(k) changes

How many of you could trust the government with your money?

Of course it won't stop there. As to 401k? They THIJK it's theirs to DO WITH what they will...

Let them **** with MY retirement? I'll be the first on the steps of the Capitol ARMED.

You sure do have a lot of mouth.

 

[Ame®icano]

Meister, stop driveling and pay attention. The parcel and post and delivery industries have competed with the USPS very well for a very long time. Health insurance reform is not universal health care reform. Government regulati.on is not socialism. Breathe into a paper bag, if you have to, and calm down.

Government regulation is not socialism, I agree.

Redistribution of wealth, bailouts, nationalizing banks and auto industry is.

The banks and auto industry haven't been nationalized.

Government sure acting like they have been nationalized.

Otherwise, how do you explaing forcing CEO of GM to resign, closing selected (read own by republican supporters) dealerships, limiting bank payrol and bonuses etc... Any idea?

 

[Ame®icano]

How has he moved left? He promised a health care package, and he is trying to deliver one. But he didn't anticipate needing a stimulus package when he was campaigning. Obama has always strongly favored energy independence, and that's also on the table (with cap and trade probably not going to happen as part thereof). Obama is still strong on improving education standards; getting more kids into college; job training.

Those are all typical "Democratic" interests, which have long been ignored. Obama is no more "left" of center than he's ever been.

Yet, he promised to reach across the isle and make it happen. It's the only thing that made him centrist during the campaign, just until he was elected. Then he came out of closet...

He's consistently reached across the aisle and has only been spit on by the Republican leadership for his efforts.

Yes, he's reaching across the isle and saying: "My way or no way". What option would you chose?

 

[Polk]

Government regulation is not socialism, I agree.

Redistribution of wealth, bailouts, nationalizing banks and auto industry is.

The banks and auto industry haven't been nationalized.

Government sure acting like they have been nationalized.

Otherwise, how do you explaing forcing CEO of GM to resign, closing selected (read own by republican supporters) dealerships, limiting bank payrol and bonuses etc... Any idea?

More of the same lines rewarmed, I see. Republican donors were not targeted for closure when dealership contracts were cut. The reason for the pay caps were that they were a condition of the loans. Don't want to be subject to pay caps? Don't be on welfare. If banks were nationalized, all banks would be subject to pay caps, not just those on welfare.

 

[Polk]

Yet, he promised to reach across the isle and make it happen. It's the only thing that made him centrist during the campaign, just until he was elected. Then he came out of closet...

He's consistently reached across the aisle and has only been spit on by the Republican leadership for his efforts.

Yes, he's reaching across the isle and saying: "My way or no way". What option would you chose?

Bullshit. Against the advice of his own economic advisers, he pushed congressional Democrats to include larger tax cuts in the stimulus to try to earn Republican support. That didn't happen. On health care, there were months of negotiations with senior Republicans on health care. After those negotiations concluded, the lead GOP negotiator publicly stated that even if all his demands were met, he'd still vote against the bill.

 

[Ame®icano]

He's consistently reached across the aisle and has only been spit on by the Republican leadership for his efforts.

Yes, he's reaching across the isle and saying: "My way or no way". What option would you chose?

Bullshit. Against the advice of his own economic advisers, he pushed congressional Democrats to include larger tax cuts in the stimulus to try to earn Republican support. That didn't happen. On health care, there were months of negotiations with senior Republicans on health care. After those negotiations concluded, the lead GOP negotiator publicly stated that even if all his demands were met, he'd still vote against the bill.

What that tells ya? There should NOT be any stimulus bill, nor government involvement in health care. It's inconstitutional, period.

 

[Ame®icano]

Indoctrination of our kids is continuing.

Talk about getting your message out... This is classic.

Pencils and notebooks resembling President Barack Obama’s 2008 campaign ads have been sold in at least one Columbia school and other public schools, causing the company that distributes the materials to travel around the state yanking the supplies out of machines.

Supplies with Obama logo surprise school

Coming soon: Che pencils, Mao book covers, Stalin erasers and Marx backpacks. Collect it all!!!

 

[Ame®icano]

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[Ame®icano]

In the other news...

Obama's "school czar Jennings pushing questionable material to children.

Safe Schools Czar Kevin Jennings was the founder, and for many years, Executive Director of an organization called the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network (GLSEN). GLSEN started essentially as Jennings’ personal project and grew to become the culmination of his life’s work. And he was chosen by President Obama to be the nation’s Safe Schools Czar primarily because he had founded and led GLSEN

Out of curiosity to see exactly what kind of books Kevin Jennings and his organization think American students should be reading in school, our team chose a handful at random from the over 100 titles on GLSEN’s grades 7-12 list, and began reading through.

Some of the reviewed books: Queer 13, Being Different, The Full Spectrum, Revolutionary Voices, Reflections of a Rock Lobster, Passages Of Pride, Growing Up Gay/Growing Up Lesbian, The Order of the Poison Oak, In Your Face, Mama’s Boy, Preacher’s Son...

Obama’s “Safe Schools Czar” Is Promoting Child Porn in the Classroom

Let's teach kids how to count... one finger, two fingers... Uhm, fistgate?

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[Father Time]

In the other news...

Obama's "school czar Jennings pushing questionable material to children.

{quote]Safe Schools Czar Kevin Jennings was the founder, and for many years, Executive Director of an organization called the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network (GLSEN). GLSEN started essentially as Jennings’ personal project and grew to become the culmination of his life’s work. And he was chosen by President Obama to be the nation’s Safe Schools Czar primarily because he had founded and led GLSEN

Out of curiosity to see exactly what kind of books Kevin Jennings and his organization think American students should be reading in school, our team chose a handful at random from the over 100 titles on GLSEN’s grades 7-12 list, and began reading through.

Some of the reviewed books: Queer 13, Being Different, The Full Spectrum, Revolutionary Voices, Reflections of a Rock Lobster, Passages Of Pride, Growing Up Gay/Growing Up Lesbian, The Order of the Poison Oak, In Your Face, Mama’s Boy, Preacher’s Son...

Change anyone?[/QUOTE]

Why can't you make these seperate threads instead of bumping up this old thread.

Also from the looks if it this seems to be one of those massive databases they have of books in the general age level. Go to any school and they'll have lists of hundreds if not thousands of books organized by grade level. Also I bet you anything that the claim that these were picked at random is complete bullshit.

Edit: wait this isn't even an official government list this is a lobbying group, so who the hell cares?

 

[Ame®icano]

Why can't you make these seperate threads instead of bumping up this old thread.

Also from the looks if it this seems to be one of those massive databases they have of books in the general age level. Go to any school and they'll have lists of hundreds if not thousands of books organized by grade level. Also I bet you anything that the claim that these were picked at random is complete bullshit.

Edit: wait this isn't even an official government list this is a lobbying group, so who the hell cares?

Isn't nice to have it ALL at one place? And why are you insisting that thread like this, where you can't really argue against, to be forgoten. I can just guess... something is bothering you... but you can always ignore it.

You still havent shown where in this thread I called Obama a communist. Well?

 

[Polk]

Indoctrination of our kids is continuing.

Talk about getting your message out... This is classic.

Pencils and notebooks resembling President Barack Obama’s 2008 campaign ads have been sold in at least one Columbia school and other public schools, causing the company that distributes the materials to travel around the state yanking the supplies out of machines.

Supplies with Obama logo surprise school

Coming soon: Che pencils, Mao book covers, Stalin erasers and Marx backpacks. Collect it all!!!

Private company chooses to produce product! Film at 11.

 

[Polk]

In the other news...

Obama's "school czar Jennings pushing questionable material to children.

Safe Schools Czar Kevin Jennings was the founder, and for many years, Executive Director of an organization called the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network (GLSEN). GLSEN started essentially as Jennings’ personal project and grew to become the culmination of his life’s work. And he was chosen by President Obama to be the nation’s Safe Schools Czar primarily because he had founded and led GLSEN

Out of curiosity to see exactly what kind of books Kevin Jennings and his organization think American students should be reading in school, our team chose a handful at random from the over 100 titles on GLSEN’s grades 7-12 list, and began reading through.

Some of the reviewed books: Queer 13, Being Different, The Full Spectrum, Revolutionary Voices, Reflections of a Rock Lobster, Passages Of Pride, Growing Up Gay/Growing Up Lesbian, The Order of the Poison Oak, In Your Face, Mama’s Boy, Preacher’s Son...

Change anyone?

Why can't you make these seperate threads instead of bumping up this old thread.

Also from the looks if it this seems to be one of those massive databases they have of books in the general age level. Go to any school and they'll have lists of hundreds if not thousands of books organized by grade level. Also I bet you anything that the claim that these were picked at random is complete bullshit.

Edit: wait this isn't even an official government list this is a lobbying group, so who the hell cares?

Also, noting that gays and lesbians exist equals child porn?

 

[Father Time]

Why can't you make these seperate threads instead of bumping up this old thread.

Also from the looks if it this seems to be one of those massive databases they have of books in the general age level. Go to any school and they'll have lists of hundreds if not thousands of books organized by grade level. Also I bet you anything that the claim that these were picked at random is complete bullshit.

Edit: wait this isn't even an official government list this is a lobbying group, so who the hell cares?

Isn't nice to have it ALL at one place? And why are you insisting that thread like this, where you can't really argue against, to be forgoten. I can just guess... something is bothering you... but you can always ignore it.

You still havent shown where in this thread I called Obama a communist. Well?

You've posted cartoons that call him a socilaist and a communist, for no apparent reason. It might as well be a direct accusation.