Here's your next conservative ban in the on going corporate collusion

[OldLady]

If you listen to the vid I put up, all the checks for a cult/white nationalist group are there. Members lacking a strong personal identity, looking for a place they "belong." More "anti-" than affirmative in their positions. "Us vs. them" excitement. I don't see where it's healthy.

White nationalist with black and hispanic members?
Did you even watch your own video?

Yes. They're cultish, "anti-guys." Twitter had a reason. I obviously don't follow the Proud Boys or McGinnes, but I trust if they did it that they have a reason. I would like to hear it.

Did what? Have black and hispanic members in their group of white nationalist?

"Western chauvinists"
I assume they can be different colors.

But not white supremacists, as you labelled them. Right?

Catch up, Tilly.

 

[Tilly]

SO it's a guy only version of the Elks with more beer drinking than healthy meals.


Still pretty wholesome.

I didn't see the summer camps for people with disabilities and the meals on wheels and the soup kitchens on the Proud Boys website. Their idea of community involvement seems to be going to protests.

Which, considering the attack on Free Speech by the Left, is a very valuable contribution.

The group and its members self-identify as “Western chauvinists,” and McInnes has in the past publicly distanced himself from white supremacists. However, Proud Boys regularly take part in far-right events, where members have been observed participating in violence against counter-demonstrators. Before its suspension Friday, the official Twitter account of the organization featured a cover photo of a Proud Boy punching a counter-protester.
Twitter Shuts Down Accounts of Vice Co-Founder Gavin McInnes, Proud Boys Ahead of ‘Unite the Right’ Rally

Now we are getting somewhere.

Yes that is true.


They have as a requirement, that you believe that "The West is the Best".


ANd they believe strongly in self defense when attacked by Antifa.


What part of this in your opinion is bad?

"The West is the Best" is a nativist position that is part of the bullshit that leads to war, injustice, etc. etc. and always has. Why would you need to take a stand that the West is better? Better than what? You would only be preaching that if you felt someone were threatening that position. Who is threatening that position? Immigrants from other cultures.
They've got an ugly underpinning.

There is nothing wrong with Westerners believing Western societies are better than those who hang gays from cranes, or push them off rooftops, or those that destroy the genitalia of women, or those that imprison journalists and teachers on trumped up charges, or where women are chattel, just a few examples. Why would anyone have a problem with that?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Now we are getting somewhere.

Yes that is true.


They have as a requirement, that you believe that "The West is the Best".


ANd they believe strongly in self defense when attacked by Antifa.


What part of this in your opinion is bad?

"The West is the Best" is a nativist position that is part of the bullshit that leads to war, injustice, etc. etc. and always has. Why would you need to take a stand that the West is better? Better than what? You would only be preaching that if you felt someone were threatening that position. Who is threatening that position? Immigrants from other cultures.
They've got an ugly underpinning.

The left is threatening that position with their obvious hate for America.
Open borders, abolish ICE, teaching our children that being a homo is a okay, anti 1st amendment.
If you dont see those things as threats to America you are most certainly the enemy.

No one wants open borders. Being a homo isn't a crime and it isn't "wrong." No one is against freedom of speech or religion, as long as it doesn't threaten to take away the freedom of others. We are not your enemy. We just see things differently.

Your actions are clear enough.
As far as being a homo thats your business. But I put my foot down when you bring it into the school curriculum.
Not against freedom of speech?
Antifa rioting to stop Conservatives from speaking on college campuses. Shutting down Conservatives on social media.
Thats taking away freedom of speech and the freedoms of others and I'm telling you right now it's not going to end well.

There hasn't been a riot stopping a speaker from speaking on a college campus since Spring 2017. Over a year ago. At least I couldn't find one.
You need to stop exaggerating. The message is getting through just fine.

Thats your excuse for giving them a pass?
Instead of looking for the last riot,how about you look for the last time a Conservative attempted to speak on a liberal college campus?

 

[OldLady]

It is rapidly becoming obvious that these virtual public spaces need to be regulated to prevent such abuse.

Gavin MccInnes is a very relevant and important figure right now. Censoring him is very wrong.

He has an audience of men who object very strongly to anti-male, racist rhetoric, and who stand for free speech.

He is first and foremost a free speech advocate. THat's why the left wants to silence him. Leftist pigs threaten his life DAILY on twitter and don't get banned.

Well, they don't any more.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Surely of all the conservatives in this country and their groups, we could come up with a social network of our own. One that advocates free speech for everyone no matter the speech. It would end Facebook for sure.

I don't see why you couldn't. Is it kind of sad though that we need two separate Facebooks because we can't agree on how to behave with one another?

Who's shutting who down?

 

[Marion Morrison]

Coward? I'm standing up for what I believe in. Proud boys are Nazis. It not that hard kid.

Oh? So I suppose since you're ready to "stand up" You're ready to charge them with an 8-round M1 Garand while taking mg42

machine gun fire and mortars and artillery being shot at you, amirite?

Let's make it realistic if you think they're Nazis and you're gonna go battle them.

At least give them Nazi weapons. You get an M1 30-06, 4 8-round magazines, and 2 grenades. They get bunkers, MG42s, and mortar and artillery support.

 

[OldLady]

It is rapidly becoming obvious that these virtual public spaces need to be regulated to prevent such abuse.

Gavin MccInnes is a very relevant and important figure right now. Censoring him is very wrong.

White Supremacy & support of violence?

If you listen to the vid I put up, all the checks for a cult/white nationalist group are there. Members lacking a strong personal identity, looking for a place they "belong." More "anti-" than affirmative in their positions. "Us vs. them" excitement. I don't see where it's healthy.

White nationalist with black and hispanic members?
Did you even watch your own video?

Yes. They're cultish, "anti-guys." Twitter had a reason. I obviously don't follow the Proud Boys or McGinnes, but I trust if they did it that they have a reason. I would like to hear it.

Yet another subject you admit to knowing nothing about, but you weigh in anyway, label them as white supremacists when they have members who aren’t white, and then confer TRUST in a mega Corp simply on the basis they are acting against people in support of your agenda, fascist.

Don't be stealing Cecille's trolling ideas, Tilly. I have as much right to weigh in on this as anyone else, although being the fascist you are, you would like to silence me.

 

[eagle1462010]

Surely of all the conservatives in this country and their groups, we could come up with a social network of our own. One that advocates free speech for everyone no matter the speech. It would end Facebook for sure.

I don't see why you couldn't. Is it kind of sad though that we need two separate Facebooks because we can't agree on how to behave with one another?

Facebook censoring is causing this......................Karma can become a reality..............lose the customers and lose the ads...........

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

White nationalist with black and hispanic members?
Did you even watch your own video?

Yes. They're cultish, "anti-guys." Twitter had a reason. I obviously don't follow the Proud Boys or McGinnes, but I trust if they did it that they have a reason. I would like to hear it.

Did what? Have black and hispanic members in their group of white nationalist?

"Western chauvinists"
I assume they can be different colors.

But not white supremacists, as you labelled them. Right?

Catch up, Tilly.

She's obviously answering as she goes through the thread and hasn't gotten to the point where you capitulate.

 

[Tilly]

White Supremacy & support of violence?

If you listen to the vid I put up, all the checks for a cult/white nationalist group are there. Members lacking a strong personal identity, looking for a place they "belong." More "anti-" than affirmative in their positions. "Us vs. them" excitement. I don't see where it's healthy.

White nationalist with black and hispanic members?
Did you even watch your own video?

Yes. They're cultish, "anti-guys." Twitter had a reason. I obviously don't follow the Proud Boys or McGinnes, but I trust if they did it that they have a reason. I would like to hear it.

Did what? Have black and hispanic members in their group of white nationalist?

"Western chauvinists"
I assume they can be different colors.

Then why did you label them white supremacists, ffs

 

[Correll]

Now we are getting somewhere.

Yes that is true.


They have as a requirement, that you believe that "The West is the Best".


ANd they believe strongly in self defense when attacked by Antifa.


What part of this in your opinion is bad?

"The West is the Best" is a nativist position that is part of the bullshit that leads to war, injustice, etc. etc. and always has. Why would you need to take a stand that the West is better? Better than what? You would only be preaching that if you felt someone were threatening that position. Who is threatening that position? Immigrants from other cultures.
They've got an ugly underpinning.

The left is threatening that position with their obvious hate for America.
Open borders, abolish ICE, teaching our children that being a homo is a okay, anti 1st amendment.
If you dont see those things as threats to America you are most certainly the enemy.

No one wants open borders. Being a homo isn't a crime and it isn't "wrong." No one is against freedom of speech or religion, as long as it doesn't threaten to take away the freedom of others. We are not your enemy. We just see things differently.

Your actions are clear enough.
As far as being a homo thats your business. But I put my foot down when you bring it into the school curriculum.
Not against freedom of speech?
Antifa rioting to stop Conservatives from speaking on college campuses. Shutting down Conservatives on social media.
Thats taking away freedom of speech and the freedoms of others and I'm telling you right now it's not going to end well.

There hasn't been a riot stopping a speaker from speaking on a college campus since Spring 2017. Over a year ago. At least I couldn't find one.
You need to stop exaggerating. The message is getting through just fine.

Yep. SInce the Proud BOy started fighting back.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

White Supremacy & support of violence?

If you listen to the vid I put up, all the checks for a cult/white nationalist group are there. Members lacking a strong personal identity, looking for a place they "belong." More "anti-" than affirmative in their positions. "Us vs. them" excitement. I don't see where it's healthy.

White nationalist with black and hispanic members?
Did you even watch your own video?

Yes. They're cultish, "anti-guys." Twitter had a reason. I obviously don't follow the Proud Boys or McGinnes, but I trust if they did it that they have a reason. I would like to hear it.

Yet another subject you admit to knowing nothing about, but you weigh in anyway, label them as white supremacists when they have members who aren’t white, and then confer TRUST in a mega Corp simply on the basis they are acting against people in support of your agenda, fascist.

Don't be stealing Cecille's trolling ideas, Tilly. I have as much right to weigh in on this as anyone else, although being the fascist you are, you would like to silence me.

When you post lies you're going to get called out.

 

[Tilly]

SO it's a guy only version of the Elks with more beer drinking than healthy meals.


Still pretty wholesome.

I didn't see the summer camps for people with disabilities and the meals on wheels and the soup kitchens on the Proud Boys website. Their idea of community involvement seems to be going to protests.

Which, considering the attack on Free Speech by the Left, is a very valuable contribution.

The group and its members self-identify as “Western chauvinists,” and McInnes has in the past publicly distanced himself from white supremacists. However, Proud Boys regularly take part in far-right events, where members have been observed participating in violence against counter-demonstrators. Before its suspension Friday, the official Twitter account of the organization featured a cover photo of a Proud Boy punching a counter-protester.
Twitter Shuts Down Accounts of Vice Co-Founder Gavin McInnes, Proud Boys Ahead of ‘Unite the Right’ Rally

Now we are getting somewhere.

Yes that is true.


They have as a requirement, that you believe that "The West is the Best".


ANd they believe strongly in self defense when attacked by Antifa.


What part of this in your opinion is bad?

"The West is the Best" is a nativist position that is part of the bullshit that leads to war, injustice, etc. etc. and always has. Why would you need to take a stand that the West is better? Better than what? You would only be preaching that if you felt someone were threatening that position. Who is threatening that position? Immigrants from other cultures.
They've got an ugly underpinning.

The West is the Best.

 

[Tilly]

"Western chauvinists"
I assume they can be different colors.

Yes but most reasonably thinking people would assume white nationalists are actually white....good grief you're floundering

Western chauvinists.

So you're rescinding your previous claim of white nationalist and this is your way of not coming right out and saying you were wrong?

If it floats your boat, I was inaccurate (wrong) to call them white nationalist. They are Western chauvinists. There is not a hell of a lot of difference, as far as the damage they can do.

So you dont mind slandering a group of people you know nothing about.

Yep. She does it daily.

 

[koshergrl]

Democrats like to pretend that those who stand for free speech are *nazis*..just as they pretend that blacks who stand for free speech are *white supremacists*.

It's ludicrous.

McInnes will move to another platform...this isn't the first time the left has tried to shut him up.

 

[Tilly]

I'm getting mighty sick and tired of every single person left of Rand Paul being labeled as Antifa.

Absolutely PRICELESS from someone who just labelled a group she admitted to KNOWING NOTHING ABOUT as white supremacists on the basis they aren’t leftists, and who supports the blacklisting of speakers from uni’s and web sites on the basis that all she knows about them is they are not leftists!
Dear God woman! It is terrifying that you allege to be a teacher!
You have absolutley no self awareness or self knowledge.
Just like ANTIFA you are a fascist who keeps insisting the opposite whilst demonstrating day in and day out that you are in fact and deed - a fascist

 

[Marion Morrison]

It is rapidly becoming obvious that these virtual public spaces need to be regulated to prevent such abuse.

Gavin MccInnes is a very relevant and important figure right now. Censoring him is very wrong.

White Supremacy & support of violence?

If you listen to the vid I put up, all the checks for a cult/white nationalist group are there. Members lacking a strong personal identity, looking for a place they "belong." More "anti-" than affirmative in their positions. "Us vs. them" excitement. I don't see where it's healthy.

Bonesey installs a window, OL suddenly has a window avatar..coincidence?

 

[OldLady]

Western chauvinists.

So you're rescinding your previous claim of white nationalist and this is your way of not coming right out and saying you were wrong?

If it floats your boat, I was inaccurate (wrong) to call them white nationalist. They are Western chauvinists. There is not a hell of a lot of difference, as far as the damage they can do.

So you dont mind slandering a group of people you know nothing about.

I know as much about them as you do.

After I schooled you maybe.
Or was that just you throwing bullshit to see if it would stick?

This would be a more interesting thread if you would get back on topic and stop trolling me.

 

[miketx]

White Supremacy & support of violence?

If you listen to the vid I put up, all the checks for a cult/white nationalist group are there. Members lacking a strong personal identity, looking for a place they "belong." More "anti-" than affirmative in their positions. "Us vs. them" excitement. I don't see where it's healthy.

White nationalist with black and hispanic members?
Did you even watch your own video?

Yes. They're cultish, "anti-guys." Twitter had a reason. I obviously don't follow the Proud Boys or McGinnes, but I trust if they did it that they have a reason. I would like to hear it.

Yet another subject you admit to knowing nothing about, but you weigh in anyway, label them as white supremacists when they have members who aren’t white, and then confer TRUST in a mega Corp simply on the basis they are acting against people in support of your agenda, fascist.

Don't be stealing Cecille's trolling ideas, Tilly. I have as much right to weigh in on this as anyone else, although being the fascist you are, you would like to silence me.

Are you related to Josef Goebbels? Because it's the left doing all the silencing! Next thing you know this shill will be saying the conservative groups being censored are doing it to themselves!

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

So you're rescinding your previous claim of white nationalist and this is your way of not coming right out and saying you were wrong?

If it floats your boat, I was inaccurate (wrong) to call them white nationalist. They are Western chauvinists. There is not a hell of a lot of difference, as far as the damage they can do.

So you dont mind slandering a group of people you know nothing about.

I know as much about them as you do.

After I schooled you maybe.
Or was that just you throwing bullshit to see if it would stick?

This would be a more interesting thread if you would get back on topic and stop trolling me.

Maybe if you stopped lying we could have an honest conversation.