Here we go again

[skookerasbil]

Wind swept fires happen every single solitary year on California........some of the biggest happened a loooooooooooooooooooooooooong time ago!!



https://www.nps.gov/fire/wildland-fire/learning-center/fireside-chats/history-timeline.cfm

http://firetracker.scpr.org/wildfires/largest-ca-wildfires/


But every time it happens, the Climate Industry makes out like it is some new thing due to global warming...............and every time, I decimate the established narrative in about 90 seconds.

 

[skookerasbil]

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Firefighters battled blazes in Ventura, Calif., early Tuesday. Tens of thousands of people in Southern California were evacuated as wildfires raged. CreditRyan Cullom/Ventura County Fire Department, via Associated Press

Southern California Fires Force Thousands to Evacuate as Flames Spread
By JONAH ENGEL BROMWICHDEC. 5, 2017


Two major fires roared through Southern California on Tuesday and forced tens of thousands of people from their homes, in the latest outburst of what has been one of the state’s worst fire seasons.

The first fire, in Ventura County, started Monday evening and spread rapidly overnight to envelop at least 45,000 acres, destroying at least 150 structures and prompting 27,000 people to evacuate.

The second began Tuesday morning in Los Angeles County and quickly grew to encompass more than 4,000 acres. Both fires were fed by dry conditions and fierce winds, the authorities said.

Southern California Fires Force Thousands to Evacuate as Flames Spread

78 square miles so far, no containment. Tell us again how this is just a normal year as far as extreme weather events go.

Prior to 1850, we never once had forest fires

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Over a 1000 homes now known to have burned in these fires, so far. And it is not even daybreak yet, so the full damage is yet to be seen. Winds expected to continue for several days yet due to a 'parked' high pressure ridge. Exactly the kind of conditions we have seen do so much damage creating ideal conditions for floods and fires. Jennifer Francis predicted this effect in her presentation before the Meteorological Society in 2012.

Crusaderfrank predicted the lunatic AGW Cult would blame every top weather story on, what are you calling it today, is it climate change or global warming?

 

[ding]

Firefighters battled blazes in Ventura, Calif., early Tuesday. Tens of thousands of people in Southern California were evacuated as wildfires raged. CreditRyan Cullom/Ventura County Fire Department, via Associated Press

Southern California Fires Force Thousands to Evacuate as Flames Spread
By JONAH ENGEL BROMWICHDEC. 5, 2017


Two major fires roared through Southern California on Tuesday and forced tens of thousands of people from their homes, in the latest outburst of what has been one of the state’s worst fire seasons.

The first fire, in Ventura County, started Monday evening and spread rapidly overnight to envelop at least 45,000 acres, destroying at least 150 structures and prompting 27,000 people to evacuate.

The second began Tuesday morning in Los Angeles County and quickly grew to encompass more than 4,000 acres. Both fires were fed by dry conditions and fierce winds, the authorities said.

Southern California Fires Force Thousands to Evacuate as Flames Spread

78 square miles so far, no containment. Tell us again how this is just a normal year as far as extreme weather events go.

The inability to represent the earth's climate with a single temperature.
The inability to accurately estimate a single temperature for the planet for each of the last 2000 years.
The misuse of the greenhouse gas effect to arrive at the erroneous conclusion that atmospheric CO2 drives climate change.
The inability to show how CO2 has effected previous climates throughout the geologic record.
The overestimation of feedback in their climate models.
Blaming global warming for natural events such as heat waves, droughts, blizzards, floods, hurricanes and forest fires.
The overestimation of temperature and sea level in their models.
The overestimation of the impact on life and property of climate change.
The overdramatization of climate change.
The demonization of anyone who dares to challenge the science and findings of climate change.

 

[Old Rocks]

The inability of the deniers to recognize any kind of science at all.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Over a 1000 homes now known to have burned in these fires, so far. And it is not even daybreak yet, so the full damage is yet to be seen. Winds expected to continue for several days yet due to a 'parked' high pressure ridge. Exactly the kind of conditions we have seen do so much damage creating ideal conditions for floods and fires. Jennifer Francis predicted this effect in her presentation before the Meteorological Society in 2012.

Crusaderfrank predicted the lunatic AGW Cult would blame every top weather story on, what are you calling it today, is it climate change or global warming?

It's either extreme weather or global weirding.
Truthfully, it's "Gimme Money".

 

[Old Rocks]

Overdramatization? LOL How many homes badly damaged by the torrential rain that accompanied Hurricane Harvey? How many thousands of homes destroyed by the fires in California this year? 3 1/2 million Americans in dire straights in Puerto Rico still. When 2017 is over, and we tally up the damage from extreme weather events, it is going to make the cost of new solar and wind look real cheap.

 

[skookerasbil]

Overdramatization? LOL How many homes badly damaged by the torrential rain that accompanied Hurricane Harvey? How many thousands of homes destroyed by the fires in California this year? 3 1/2 million Americans in dire straights in Puerto Rico still. When 2017 is over, and we tally up the damage from extreme weather events, it is going to make the cost of new solar and wind look real cheap.

But extreme weather events haven't happened in the Carribean in many, many years before this year. And giant fires have been happening in Califonia since forever ( see links above on California wildfire history ).......some of the worst happening well before 1900.

Gotta file it under SHIT HAPPENS.......humans cant to dick to stop it so.............

 

[hjmick]

I lived in California for more than thirty years. In Ventura County. Ventura, Camarillo, Thousand Oaks, Newbury Park, Moorpark (spelled backwards is Kraproom), Simi Valley. I have a brother who is a Ventura County firefighter, needless to say he is quite busy. In my experience, these fires are not as unusual as some would have you think. There are many factors that contribute to the intensity... not the least of which are the terrain, the density of fuel, the length of time since it last burned, the length of time since it last rained, the winds... the Santa Ana winds are the worst.

Sadly, the more people build up against the wilderness areas, the more homes and lives will be damaged and destroyed. Consider the fire up in the Sepulveda Pass along the 405. Lots of houses, Getty Center, plenty of development yet they also have plenty of brush to burn as we can all see.

It's all great and wonderful that they had enough rain this year to snap the drought, but the other side of the coin is the sudden growth of foliage, then you have to remember that, for the most part, Southern California is a desert. Yes, a desert. Dry, arid. So your new growth dries out, becomes vulnerable to the possibility of fire... And repeat...

Now, I think it is the height of hubris for any of us to believe that our presence on this planet has no effect on the climate. I also believe it is ridiculous for anyone to believe we are the sole cause of every weather event that takes place. They grew grapes in northern England not so long ago (in the big scheme of things) for Christ's sake. That makes me think that a good bit of "climate change" is cyclical... Damn shame so much money is involved in the science...

 

[sakinago]

Firefighters battled blazes in Ventura, Calif., early Tuesday. Tens of thousands of people in Southern California were evacuated as wildfires raged. CreditRyan Cullom/Ventura County Fire Department, via Associated Press

Southern California Fires Force Thousands to Evacuate as Flames Spread
By JONAH ENGEL BROMWICHDEC. 5, 2017


Two major fires roared through Southern California on Tuesday and forced tens of thousands of people from their homes, in the latest outburst of what has been one of the state’s worst fire seasons.

The first fire, in Ventura County, started Monday evening and spread rapidly overnight to envelop at least 45,000 acres, destroying at least 150 structures and prompting 27,000 people to evacuate.

The second began Tuesday morning in Los Angeles County and quickly grew to encompass more than 4,000 acres. Both fires were fed by dry conditions and fierce winds, the authorities said.

Southern California Fires Force Thousands to Evacuate as Flames Spread

78 square miles so far, no containment. Tell us again how this is just a normal year as far as extreme weather events go.

Santiago Canyon Fire (1889). Burned on the order of 310,000 acres (130,000 ha).
Berkeley Fire (1923): destroyed 640 structures, including 584 homes
Griffith Park Fire (1933). Official death toll was 29 firefighters, but may have killed up to 58.
Rattlesnake Fire (1953). 15 firefighters were killed in this arsonist's fire.
Bel Air Fire (1961). 484 homes were destroyed; 112 injuries.
Laguna Fire (1970). 382 homes burned, killing eight people.
Painted Cave Fire (1990). 1 death and 430 buildings burnt in this arson fire near Santa Barbara.
Oakland Hills firestorm (1991). Killed 25 people. Destroyed 2,843 single-family homes and 437 multi-family units.
Laguna Beach fire (1993). 441 homes destroyed, $528 million damage. Cause: arson.
Mount Vision Fire (1995). 45 homes destroyed. Cause: illegal campfire.

Year Fires Acres Mi2 Km2 Ref
2001 9,458 329,126 514.3 1,331.9 [4]
2002 8,328 506,696 791.7 2,050.5 [5]
2003 9,116 793,402 1,239.7 3,210.8 [6]
2004 8,415 242,057 378.2 979.6 [7]
2005 7,162 202,754 316.8 820.5 [8]
2006 8,202 678,919 1,060.8 2,747.5 [9]
2007 9,093 1,087,110 1,698.6 4,399.4 [10]
2008 4,108 1,375,781 2,149.7 5,567.6 [11]
2009 9,159 405,585 633.7 1,641.3 [12]
2010 6,554 109,529 171.1 443.2 [13]
2011 7,989 126,854 198.2 513.4 [14]
2012 7,950 869,599 1,358.7 3,519.1 [15]
2013 9,907 577,675 902.6 2,337.8 [16]
2014 7,865 555,044 867.3 2,246.2 [17]
2015 8,745 893,362 1,395.9 3,615.3 [18]
2016 6,986 565,070 882.9 2,286.5
2017
Average 8,137 583,566 911.8 2,361.6 .

US in Longest 'Hurricane Drought' in Recorded History

Hmm law of averages comes to mind...