Here is why Americans socialists hope to emulate Hitler.

[Robert W]

First issue. Authoritarian rule. We must face this fact. Democrats are true authoritarians. Democrats, such as Bernie Sanders, promote socialism. Few Democrats despise socialism. Talk to them and they always praise it. Claim is it works in Scandanivia. They will pick countries who they think are socialist and by golly tell you how fine they are. Republicans never do this. And that is a major conflict among Democrats and we Republicans. We want Government out of your business. We love the Constitution but what did it do to Government. It was designed to keep Government out of your business. It was not set up as a socialist state.

They know Hitler was a socialist yet tell you he was not. Why defend Hitler?

Some of Hitler's benefits will prove he was a socialist.

This bit does not mention Hitlers free health care. Free vacations. It does mention stoking national pride. But by being Socialist.

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Under Hitler, Germany saw significant economic benefits through a combination of public works programs, rearmament, and a shift in economic policies. The Nazis implemented large-scale public works projects like building the autobahn and creating new jobs in various industries, including the military. This led to reduced unemployment and boosted the German economy.

Economic Benefits:

• Reduced Unemployment:
  Public works programs and rearmament efforts led to a significant decrease in unemployment, creating jobs in construction, industry, and the military.
  
  
• Economic Growth:
  The Nazis' spending on public works and rearmament stimulated economic growth and helped to improve living standards for some segments of the population.
  
  
• Profitability for Companies:
  The increased demand for goods and services related to public works and rearmament led to increased profits for major industrial companies.
  
  
• Infrastructure Development:
  The autobahn project and other public works initiatives improved infrastructure and facilitated transportation.

Social and Psychological Impact:

• Increased Social Cohesion:
  The economic successes under the Nazis, particularly the reduction in unemployment, helped to increase social cohesion and support for the regime.
  
  
• National Pride:
  The economic achievements and military buildup fostered a sense of national pride and a belief in the strength of the Nazi state.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

All of that applies to Trump et al.

 

[ElmerMudd]

First issue. Authoritarian rule. We must face this fact. Democrats are true authoritarians. Democrats, such as Bernie Sanders, promote socialism. Few Democrats despise socialism. Talk to them and they always praise it. Claim is it works in Scandanivia. They will pick countries who they think are socialist and by golly tell you how fine they are. Republicans never do this. And that is a major conflict among Democrats and we Republicans. We want Government out of your business. We love the Constitution but what did it do to Government. It was designed to keep Government out of your business. It was not set up as a socialist state.

They know Hitler was a socialist yet tell you he was not. Why defend Hitler?

Some of Hitler's benefits will prove he was a socialist.

This bit does not mention Hitlers free health care. Free vacations. It does mention stoking national price. But by being Socialist.

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Under Hitler, Germany saw significant economic benefits through a combination of public works programs, rearmament, and a shift in economic policies. The Nazis implemented large-scale public works projects like building the autobahn and creating new jobs in various industries, including the military. This led to reduced unemployment and boosted the German economy.

Economic Benefits:

• Reduced Unemployment:
  Public works programs and rearmament efforts led to a significant decrease in unemployment, creating jobs in construction, industry, and the military.
  
  
• Economic Growth:
  The Nazis' spending on public works and rearmament stimulated economic growth and helped to improve living standards for some segments of the population.
  
  
• Profitability for Companies:
  The increased demand for goods and services related to public works and rearmament led to increased profits for major industrial companies.
  
  
• Infrastructure Development:
  The autobahn project and other public works initiatives improved infrastructure and facilitated transportation.

Social and Psychological Impact:

• Increased Social Cohesion:
  The economic successes under the Nazis, particularly the reduction in unemployment, helped to increase social cohesion and support for the regime.
  
  
• National Pride:
  The economic achievements and military buildup fostered a sense of national pride and a belief in the strength of the Nazi state.

Similarities between Nazi Germany and Trump USA.
-Trump and others are bringing in something else, called corporatism. It's the slow end of democracy and the creation of corporate rule. Democracy went away in NAZI Germany as it is going away in Trump USA
-Autarky (Self-Sufficiency):
The Nazis aimed for economic independence through policies like "Four Year Plan" that focused on increasing domestic production and reducing reliance on foreign trade, according to GlobalSecurity.org.

• Hitler and Trump used democracy to take power
• Hitler and Trump founf heavy support from disenfranchised citizens.
• Scariest of all, Hitler said he would. make Germany great again" we know how that ended.

How Hitler Used Democracy to Take Power

The vital lesson of how Adolf Hitler took advantage of democracy to become a dictator.

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[Robert W]

All of that applies to Trump et al.

This is a first that Trump is accused of being a Socialist.

 

[ElmerMudd]

This is a first that Trump is accused of being a Socialist.

Trump is making moves heading towards closing the US economy. He is forcing more manufacturing in the USA and more consumption of USA product. That is a closed or closing economy which is the key characteristic of a pure socialist economy.

A free and open economy is the bellweather of capitalism.

You call yourself a capitalist and advocate for free markets but you don't even know what they are. Typical MAGA.

 

[Robert W]

You and I never had enough time to engage in Democracy. As Democrats use it, it is a genuine fake since Greeks invented democracy and our system is not close to being the Greek Democracy. So why do Democrats even want to claim it is a Democracy. I wish I know. I will stab at a guess. Apparently they thing by voting one time in a span of 4 years is how the Greeks did it. Greeks actually got permission on every issue the Government wanted to do.

Democracy means therefore citizens rule and the Leaders must carry out every issue.
America does not allow Citizens to vote on all Government issues. Case closed.

Did founders claim we have a Democracy? They said no, we are a Republic, if you can keep it. Democrats have tried to destroy this republic for a very long time. By misnaming it for one thing.

 

[ElmerMudd]

You and I never had enough time to engage in Democracy. As Democrats use it, it is a genuine fake since Greeks invented democracy and our system is not close to being the Greek Democracy. So why do Democrats even want to claim it is a Democracy. I wish I know. I will stab at a guess. Apparently they thing by voting one time in a span of 4 years is how the Greeks did it. Greeks actually got permission on every issue the Government wanted to do.

Democracy means therefore citizens rule and the Leaders must carry out every issue.
America does not allow Citizens to vote on all Government issues. Case closed.

Did founders claim we have a Democracy? They said no, we are a Republic, if you can keep it. Democrats have tried to destroy this republic for a very long time. By misnaming it for one thing.

We are a democratic republic. Democratic pluralism.
The greeks provided the seeds of democracy but what they provided their citizen was not even close to a pure democracy.

 

[Robert W]

Trump is making moves heading towards closing the US economy. He is forcing more manufacturing in the USA and more consumption of USA product. That is a closed or closing economy which is the key characteristic of a pure socialist economy.

A free and open economy is the bellweather of capitalism.

You call yourself a capitalist and advocate for free markets but you don't even know what they are. Typical MAGA.

I will save space to do what you did, which was to argue with me and pick a fight.
Trump definitely is moving back to the USA jobs for you and our citizens. That is not Socialism!!!! Witness how Trump got China to lower Tariffs. China wants to keep it's socialism. Trump is still willing for us all to do business with China and definitely all of us will when we use such as Amazon. My son reviews for Amazon and gets tons of stuff for free. All he needs do is pay Uncle Sam taxes on his free goods. IT would shock all of you maybe to learn that Amazon actually hands out millions of dollars of free goods. My son says that China dominates the Amazon Market. And he notices drops in goods from China. He paid over $3,000 in income taxes on the goods he got for free this past tax period. They send him 1099 forms so he must pay taxes.
Here is what I call myself, I stand for the Republic of the United States of America and for the freedom of this country.

Now you. You stand for rule by Democrats. And that makes me sick.

 

[Robert W]

We are a democratic republic. Democratic pluralism.
The greeks provided the seeds of democracy but what they provided their citizen was not even close to a pure democracy.

Greeks invented Democracy. Of course they held true to Democracy. When the leaders came up with plans, the citizens had to approve. The USA has never been an actual Democracy. Take Biden as an example. He ruled us based on the phony claims Climate is our danger. HE lied. But due to that, he created a huge market for EVs. And the public has rejected them in most parts. Why? Take Grandholm who worked for Biden, She wanted to prove using EVS are easy. She sent a gasoline driven car to her front who parked in the EV parking which was designated only EV. So when she arrived, sure enough the GAS powered car moved away to allow her to recharge for the high number of hours needed. She rigged the system.

 

[Robert W]

Similarities between Nazi Germany and Trump USA.
-Trump and others are bringing in something else, called corporatism. It's the slow end of democracy and the creation of corporate rule.

Trump has not invented Corporations. America sum total is blessed by Corporations and let me say why. First citizens are the true owners. Citizens actually can vote on a number of corpate issues. It is much closer to being a true democracy than voting for the Federal Government is. Why Citizens can keep governing Corporations. They vote much more often. It keeps citizens who own corporations from being sued. The Corporation itself is sued. When you own stock, you are immune from being sued. Corporation is not new. This country created Corporations.

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American corporations began developing in the 1790s. While the exact origins of the first corporations are debated, the Boston Manufacturing Company, founded in 1813, is often considered the first major industrial corporation in the U.S. The growth of corporations accelerated during the Gilded Age, fueled by industries like oil, electricity, and railroads.

Here's a more detailed look:

• 1790s:
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  The first American corporations emerged, particularly in the aftermath of the American Revolution, as the nation sought to establish an industrial economy.
  
  
• 1813:
  .Opens in new tab
  The Boston Manufacturing Company, founded by Francis Cabot Lowell, is often cited as the first major industrial corporation.
  
  
• Gilded Age (late 1800s):
  .Opens in new tab
  The rapid development of industries like oil, electricity, and railroads spurred significant growth in the corporate sector.
  
  
• 19th Century:
  .Opens in new tab
  Corporations became increasingly important as the driving force behind economic growth, particularly during the Industrial Revolution.
  
  
• Post-Civil War:
  .Opens in new tab
  The railroad industry also contributed to the rise of corporations, with many large companies emerging in this period.

 

[Robert W]

• Hitler and Trump used democracy to take power
• Hitler and Trump founf heavy support from disenfranchised citizens.
• Scariest of all, Hitler said he would. make Germany great again" we know how that ended.

Actually Hitler used a Republic to take power. He managed to end that Republic and make it socialist. Recall how he got power. He was not voted in, he was appointed. And his congress chose to have him be dictator.
A lot of Americans clearly are disenfranchised by Democrats. That is why the nation choose to restore Trump as president. Trump was not there thanks to the military, it was millions of citizens putting him back in charge of our Republic. Check our Allegiance to the flag. Notice we do not pledge allegiance to Trump, only our Flag.
Hitler backed up his claim by making Germany Great again. And was loved by almost every citizen of Germany. We hate the Germans for loving Hitler. But after he improved Germany, who now blames them for loving a man who created the worlds best economy in those years. America still took many more years to recover and only war caused us to recover. Both FDR and Hitler lasted about the same period of time.

Germany did not have a law saying the leader of 1933 could just serve two terms. America has such a law.

 

[ElmerMudd]

I will save space to do what you did, which was to argue with me and pick a fight.
Trump definitely is moving back to the USA jobs for you and our citizens. That is not Socialism!!!! Witness how Trump got China to lower Tariffs. China wants to keep it's socialism. Trump is still willing for us all to do business with China and definitely all of us will when we use such as Amazon. My son reviews for Amazon and gets tons of stuff for free. All he needs do is pay Uncle Sam taxes on his free goods. IT would shock all of you maybe to learn that Amazon actually hands out millions of dollars of free goods. My son says that China dominates the Amazon Market. And he notices drops in goods from China. He paid over $3,000 in income taxes on the goods he got for free this past tax period. They send him 1099 forms so he must pay taxes.
Here is what I call myself, I stand for the Republic of the United States of America and for the freedom of this country.

Now you. You stand for rule by Democrats. And that makes me sick.

I do not affiliate with either major party. I find them both inept.
A free market allows competition to determine who and where products are made. A socialist economy produces and consumes all of their own products and services.
It may have positive effects, to manipulate more products, to be made in the USA but you are moving away from a free market. That does not make an economy socialist but it is a socialist reform. Every country, in the world, is a hybrid of free market capitalism and socialism.
I am involved in a business that consults companies on doing businesses with Amazon. We cover A to Z. What your son participates in is called the vine program. Amazon sellers pay to be in the program and donate the product to be reviewed. The purpose is to encourage reviews of your product. The more reviews and the more positive reviews results in higher sales.
We work with many USA companie. Many have some manufacturing in China and throughout the world. The way the China tariffs have been rolled out has been a nightmare. How can you establish pricing when the tariff changes every week. You don't pay the tariff until received in port. Many of our manufacturers cancelled orders for Chinese product. But they do not have sources in the USA. To have factories built in the US takes time and money. It is putting some small US Amazon sellers out of business. The 30% tariff is still higher than tariffs paid on products, from China, before Trump's tariffs. Our masnufacturers are absorbing a part of the tariff and passing on part. Retailers are doing the same. Trump's strategy will drive manufacturing and jobs to the US but the consumers will be paying a higher price.
Trump did close a loop hole that allowed China and all foreign USA exporters to not have to pay tariffs that are sent by US mail and are less than $800. It will help closing down some chinese sellers but it has been a huge challenge for USPS.
I know Amazon and I know international trade related to products sold in the USA.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

This is a first that Trump is accused of being a Socialist.

Fascism is a form of socialism, corporatism, and collectivism.

Our social market democracy has become a form of fascism when government and business intercept one another.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Trump is making moves heading towards closing the US economy. He is forcing more manufacturing in the USA and more consumption of USA product. That is a closed or closing economy which is the key characteristic of a pure socialist economy.

A free and open economy is the bellweather of capitalism.

You call yourself a capitalist and advocate for free markets but you don't even know what they are. Typical MAGA.

That is not a great thing either, capitalism.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Trump has not invented Corporations. America sum total is blessed by Corporations and let me say why. First citizens are the true owners. Citizens actually can vote on a number of corpate issues. It is much closer to being a true democracy than voting for the Federal Government is. Why Citizens can keep governing Corporations. They vote much more often. It keeps citizens who own corporations from being sued. The Corporation itself is sued. When you own stock, you are immune from being sued. Corporation is not new. This country created Corporations.

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American corporations began developing in the 1790s. While the exact origins of the first corporations are debated, the Boston Manufacturing Company, founded in 1813, is often considered the first major industrial corporation in the U.S. The growth of corporations accelerated during the Gilded Age, fueled by industries like oil, electricity, and railroads.

Here's a more detailed look:

• 1790s:
  .Opens in new tab
  The first American corporations emerged, particularly in the aftermath of the American Revolution, as the nation sought to establish an industrial economy.
  
  
• 1813:
  .Opens in new tab
  The Boston Manufacturing Company, founded by Francis Cabot Lowell, is often cited as the first major industrial corporation.
  
  
• Gilded Age (late 1800s):
  .Opens in new tab
  The rapid development of industries like oil, electricity, and railroads spurred significant growth in the corporate sector.
  
  
• 19th Century:
  .Opens in new tab
  Corporations became increasingly important as the driving force behind economic growth, particularly during the Industrial Revolution.
  
  
• Post-Civil War:
  .Opens in new tab
  The railroad industry also contributed to the rise of corporations, with many large companies emerging in this period.

Capitalism is private ownership of businesses.
Corporations formalized ownership for legal reasons and the ability to have multiple owners.
I have have two S-corps and previously I was part owner of a C-corp.

What can hurt a free market more than anything else is monopolies. Industries are dominated by a few big corporations and the snmall guy does not have a chance. The US economy has been moving to larger corporations because of economies of scale. Large corp[orations can produce cheaper but it is not best for the USD worker. Less good paying jobs. It is the same reason manufacturing went off shore, goods could be made cheaper. That i9s what the US consumer wanted. Better prices but it hurt jobs.

No recent President has done much to stop the growth of larger corporations. In fact those corporations have mush more influence on who is elected than anyone o0r anything else. Trump is taking away what few guardrails were in place to slow down large corporation dominance of our economy.

We have a complex economy that every move has aripple effect. Nothing is simple.

 

[Robert W]

Fascism is a form of socialism, corporatism, and collectivism.

Our social market democracy has become a form of fascism when government and business intercept one another.

Why don't Democrats understand how vastly different Fascists are from the Nazi Socialists. Corporations were created in the USA before George Washington was president. Why do you literally hate his Government?

 

[Robert W]

Capitalism is private ownership of businesses.
Corporations formalized ownership for legal reasons and the ability to have multiple owners.
I have have two S-corps and previously I was part owner of a C-corp.

It is far more. For instance, you show up at a local Chevrolet Dealer and hate the salesman or price. So you drive to a different Dealer who pleases you and you eagerly buy from that dealer. Democrats are very confused about Corporations though I am not including you. You surely were not evil as a part owner of the C Corp. Do you enjoy reading Democrats blast Corporations. I think not.

 

[Failzero]

This is a first that Trump is accused of being a Socialist.

The Germans in 1934-45 Did Socialism Right ?

 

[22lcidw]

All of that applies to Trump et al.

We already know where the Progs are at. Get the candidates to talk about freedoms. We really do not get that. The last one was Ted Cruz in the 2016 primaries. Getting a candidate to weaken the Patriot Act, the TSA and Homeland Security may get some to vote for them. No lies though.

 

[Robert W]

No recent President has done much to stop the growth of larger corporations. In fact those corporations have mush more influence on who is elected than anyone o0r anything else. Trump is taking away what few guardrails were in place to slow down large corporation dominance of our economy.

I see how large Corporations go bankrupt. Citizen owners lose tons of investments and income when they go bankrupt. Enron is one example and so is Ling Temco Vought.

Sears and Roebuck and Montgomery Wards. Plymouth and Oldsmobile. Both good cars no longer exist.
Nobody in their right mind will say Corporations all have it good.

What about under Biden?

Here are 12 well-known companies that went bankrupt in 2024​

By Jordan Valinsky, CNN
4 minute read
Published 10:00 AM EST, Sun December 22, 2024

This year was brutal for a number of well-known companies and their bottom lines.

As inflation continued to rear its ugly head, consumers slashed their discretionary spending, tilting some companies to file for bankruptcy. Other brands fell victim to changing trends or even more malicious ailments, like cyberattacks.

At least 19 companies have cut a combined 14,000 jobs because of bankruptcies, according to Challenger, Gray & Christmas, an outplacement services firm.

Notably, retail closures have picked up this year because the sector’s sugar high of 2021 and 2022 — when consumers were buying new furniture, televisions and clothing — has ended. There have been more than 7,100 store closures through the end of November, according to research firm CoreSight — a jump of 69% compared to the same time a year ago.

Of course, filing for bankruptcy doesn’t necessarily mean a business is going bust. Companies tend to use the Chapter 11 process to wind down some operations, tackle mounting debt and save on costs by closing locations.

Here are some of the most notable bankruptcies of 2024, listed alphabetically:

Big Lots​

Big Lots filed for bankruptcy in September, after previously warning that it had “substantial doubt” about its survival. The discount retailer recently announced that its deal to sell itself to a private equity firm had fallen through and it will soon close its remaining 963 locations.

Bowflex​

Perhaps best known for its late-night informercials, the at-home gym equipment maker filed for bankruptcy in March. It emerged from Chapter 11 a few months later, signing a deal with a Taiwan-based company to “acquire substantially all of the assets” for $37.5 million in cash.

Express​

The once-trendy mall staple filed for bankruptcy in April after consistently struggling with continued missteps over its merchandise mix that failed to get shoppers excited. As a result, nearly 100 locations closed and the company, which also owns the Bonobos brand, sold itself to a consortium led by WHP Global in June.

Read the article to learn about all of those.

https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/22/business/2024-company-bankruptcy-list/index.html