Here Comes The Quagmire

[EvilCat Breath]

The war we should be fighting is against democrats.

 

[22lcidw]

Trump is basically lazy
He does not want to put in the work to generate real regime change that is favorable to the US
He thinks he can just bomb the crap out of a country, kill the leader and have a new regime take over that is motherhood and apple pie

What Iran will get is chaos and Civil War with 90 million lives at stake.

If Progressives were top shelf, they would be in power today. If we get into a prolonged ground war, then Republicans deserve to lose the midterms in a huge way. It is just that you guys are worthless. You will start again with your pie in the sky agendas while playing minor attention to the real problems. In wars people suffer. The empowered who starts them, we do not know the motives many times. With Iran we have an antagonistic nation since 1979. And a continuous effort to acquire nuclear weapons.

 

[rightwinger]

Our pilots are having the time of their lives. Real targets, some moving and working to clear out the trash.

And yet the Strait remains closed

 

[0311]

It was obvious the War Department (was that name change by our FIFA Peace Prize laureate foreshadowing, or what?) had no intention of regime change in Iran. This exercise is just Trump flexing his sadistic impulses to blow things up like the strongmen he admires so much.

As I have pointed out continuously on this forum, if the original Iran Plan™ was regime change, the US would have forward deployed ground troops

Before anyone jumps the gun and claims there was regime change in Venezuela without troops...no. The same regime is in place, and the military there are hardcore Chavismos. Nothing has changed.

Trump and MAGA World are always trying to change definitions. Like "landslide" when you haven't even won 50 percent of the popular vote, ever. And he and MAGA World are going to try to redefine "regime change" and "victory".

But when you think regime change, think Iraq or Afghanistan or Nazi Germany. That's regime change.

Donald Trump is now at a crossroads. He has not achieved regime change. As soon as one head of government is killed, another pops up to take their place.

The worst case scenario here is that when enough Ayatollahs or other leaders are killed, there will be a military coup and Iran will be run by a strongman. And Trump loves him a strongman. He will actually consider this a victory.

At this juncture, Trump can simply "declare victory and leave", but that will just cause everyone to ROTFLMAO. And he clearly has no intention of declaring victory yet as he is requesting 200 billion more dollars to continue his boondoggle. We've already hit $1 trillion of federal deficit just five months into FY2026, in case you haven't noticed. MAGA hasn't noticed because they are deliberately kept from noticing or saying anything about it.

So...

Sooner or later, Trump is going to have to quit...or deploy ground troops.

Ground troops would be the quagmire. When body bags begin piling up, that's the death of the economy, the Republican Party, and Donald Trump.


LINKS:

Pentagon seeks more than $200 billion in budget request for Iran war​

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Trump administration making heavy preparations for potential use of ground troops in Iran​

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"No More Forever Wars." "No More Regime Change". What a ******* lie!

 

[0311]

The amphibious assault ship USS Tripoli is headed to the Persian Gulf with MEU 31 on board.

https://www.31stmeu.marines.mil/

Sending in Marine Expeditionary Unit is a very big thing. His Quagmire is only going to get worse.

 

[Zincwarrior]

The war we should be fighting is against democrats.

Well if you did it like this one the Dems would have burned the WH by now.

 

[Robert W]

And yet the Strait remains closed

You believe that is the issue? Let's hope not.

Debaters seem to ignore facts. Iran is 1/6 the size of the USA Dealing with arms in an area of that size takes a lot of time. Airplanes dropping bombs for example are too few to do it fast. So we are nibbling at Iran until they shout, "We quit".

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[Captain Caveman]

Surely after the threads on how big and brilliant the US military is, and how they keep saving countries from nasty pasties, the Iran war should just be a breeze!!

 

[rightwinger]

You believe that is the issue? Let's hope not.

Debaters seem to ignore facts. Iran is 1/6 the size of the USA Dealing with arms in an area of that size takes a lot of time. Airplanes dropping bombs for example are too few to do it fast. So we are nibbling at Iran until they shout, "We quit".

Iran vs USA Size Comparison: Iran Is Big, But USA Is 5.9x Bigger (+Video)

The Iran vs USA size comparison reveals a substantial but often misunderstood relationship between these two nations. The United States, covering approximately 3.80 million square miles, is about 5.9 times larger than Iran’s 636,372 square miles. This means you could fit nearly six Irans inside...

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US is bigger
That is your solution?

Strait of Hormuz is tiny……What is Trump going to do about it?
DIdnt he think before he attacked?

 

[Robert W]

US is bigger
That is your solution?

Strait of Hormuz is tiny……What is Trump going to do about it?
DIdnt he think before he attacked?

An area 1/6 the size of the USA is a lot to conquer. But you focus not on Iran, but a tiny bit of water.

 

[rightwinger]

An area 1/6 the size of the USA is a lot to conquer. But you focus not on Iran, but a tiny bit of water.

That tiny stretch of land is crippling the worlds oil supplies

 

[Robert W]

That tiny stretch of land is crippling the worlds oil supplies

Why are you exaggerating? Are you representing China now?

 

[rightwinger]

Why are you exaggerating? Are you representing China now?

Where have you been the last three weeks?

 

[Robert W]

Where have you been the last three weeks?

Home. Now where have you been the last three weeks?
Are you worried our Army is about to lose the war?

 

[Robert W]

That tiny stretch of land is crippling the worlds oil supplies

Not the world, China. Do you believe China has no reserves?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Well if you did it like this one the Dems would have burned the WH by now.

Save us the trouble of ripping it out for a remodel

 

[BackAgain]

Apparently the OP got a new play toy term to use against Trump. “Quagmire.”

He must just love getting new talking point memos from the Shitlib organizations.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Troops on the ground? Iran troops on American soil? How do you say it's a war? I call it winning, my grandchildren won't have to worry about getting nuked by Iran. You do realize, when they could. We would be nuked?

I'm not interested in your pathetic propaganda, sorry.

Go whine to your Rape Daddy and his white supremacist toadie SecDef. They call it war.

Go on, git.

 

[g5000]

Troops on the ground? Iran troops on American soil? How do you say it's a war? I call it winning, my grandchildren won't have to worry about getting nuked by Iran. You do realize, when they could. We would be nuked?

You poor dumb rube. You've been totally fearmongered into the dumbest nonsense.

Get off the floor, p*ssy.

[cue doom music]

Iran is a week away from getting nukes!

 

[g5000]

This bombing of Iran is only serving to convince them more than ever they need a nuclear deterrent. And it is convincing all of our potential enemies they need nukes, too.

North Korea is a close ally of Iran, and they are not a signatory to the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty.

Don't be surprised if Trump's friend Kim Jong Un offers to sell a nuke to Iran.