Help Wanted: Ref Charlie Kirk Shooting Questions

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Attention USMB Sleuths.

I know some of us are tired of all the speculations about the shooting of Charlie Kirk, what with all the far-fetched conspiracy theories and all. I hope this thread will be better than that.

Long story short, the physics that we can see (violent reaction of the shirt, location of the entry wound, etc.) in the videos we have, along with what we are being told (caliber, distance, angles, and leaked autopsy findings), are just not adding up for me.

Regardless of the fatigue, I'm still determined to understand why the supposed 'facts' we have still aren't mathing.

Anyway, here's what I've gathered, and I'm also going to posit a theory that I've not found elsewhere, to explain why there (according to reports) was no exit wound.

To start, I put the distance, elevations, and approximate angle of the trajectory in this image. I also take into account the building's height.
angle..webp


This is another image of the shooter's position (foreground) with Charlie's tent in the background, to show the line of sight and downward slope. The evidence markers indicate where Robinson was supposedly positioned.
imrs.webp


Now comes my theory (but I've yet to find anything in the images to support it.)

I shared earlier that it appears that the bullet struck the chain on Charlie Kirk's necklaces. (we can see the broken chain fly out of his shirt, on impact.) However, a neck chain changing the direction of a 30-06, deflecting it upwards into Charlie's neck, does not "Math" to me. Supposedly, Charlie was not wearing a bulletproof plate or vest. So, again. . . . working with what we have.

In this video, we see the shooter on the roof, and he is back a little ways from the edge.


Charlie's cross 4.webp

There is a parapet/flashing around the roof edge that is sloped inward (zoom in) towards the center of the roof.

Anyone who has shot with a scope long enough has had an occasion where, just because you can see the target through the scope, that doesn't mean the barrels (2-3 inches below the scope) will not be blocked.

Please bear with me. . . what it the shot caught the edge of that flashing just enough to interfere with the shot, but not cause a miss? Suppose it caused the round to tumble/ lose energy etc?

I'm just putting it out there to gather your thoughts. I am not claiming this is what happened.

Sleuthers help me out with this.
 
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Attention USMB Sleuths.

I know some of us are tired of all the speculations about the shooting of Charlie Kirk, what with all the far-fetched conspiracy theories and all. I hope this thread will be better than that.

Long story short, the physics that we can see (violent reaction of the shirt, location of the entry wound, etc.) in the videos we have, along with what we are being told (caliber, distance, angles, and leaked autopsy findings), are just not adding up for me.

Regardless of the fatigue, I'm still determined to understand why the supposed 'facts' we have still aren't mathing.

Anyway, here's what I've gathered, and I'm also going to posit a theory that I've not found elsewhere, to explain why there (according to reports) was no exit wound.

To start, I put the distance, elevations, and approximate angle of the trajectory in this image. I also take into account the building's height. View attachment 1173076

This is another image of the shooter's position (foreground) with Charlie's tent in the background, to show the line of sight and downward slope. The evidence markers indicate where Robinson was supposedly positioned. View attachment 1173081

Now comes my theory (but I've yet to find anything in the images to support it.)

I shared earlier that it appears that the bullet struck the chain on Charlie Kirk's necklaces. (we can see the broken chain fly out of his shirt, on impact.) However, a neck chain changing the direction of a 30-06, deflecting it upwards into Charlie's neck, does not "Math" to me. Supposedly, Charlie was not wearing a bulletproof plate or vest. So, again. . . . working with what we have.

In this video, we see the shooter on the roof, and he is back a little ways from the edge.


View attachment 1173082

There is a parapet/flashing around the roof edge that is sloped inward (zoom in) towards the center of the roof.

Anyone who has shot with a scope long enough has had an occasion where, just because you can see the target through the scope, that doesn't mean the barrels (2-3 inches below the scope) will not be blocked.

Please bear with me. . . what it the shot caught the edge of that flashing just enough to interfere with the shot, but not cause a miss? Suppose it caused the round to tumble/ lose energy etc?

I'm just putting it out there to gather your thoughts. I am not claiming this is what happened.

Sleuthers help me out with this.

The crazy guy shot him. He's dead. The end. Seems your interest is much more than mine.
 
Well what then? At the exact same time the lunatic fired his shot, it hit nothing and at that very second some second shooter knew to shoot at that exact same second?


Bullets do weird shit. For all we know it ricochet off something as well, since normally a .30 06 would totally blow a hole in a person or animal. But sometimes they don’t create a big hole.
 
Well what then? At the exact same time the lunatic fired his shot, it hit nothing and at that very second some second shooter knew to shoot at that exact same second?


Bullets do weird shit. For all we know it ricochet off something as well, since normally a .30 06 would totally blow a hole in a person or animal. But sometimes they don’t create a big hole.
Ricochet is the only thing that I think might explain it. That's what I've been saying and looking for any evidence to support it.
 
Ricochet is the only thing that I think might explain it. That's what I've been saying and looking for any evidence to support it.
If that was a possibility, you don't think the investigators who are there and have all available information at their fingertips might have thought of that? You think some goober, like yourself, behind a keyboard, can solve something that they overlooked?
 
Here's why the possibility of a ricochet may not matter or ever come into play.

"Yes, Tyler Robinson, the 22-year-old suspect charged with the assassination of conservative activist Charlie Kirk on September 10, 2025, at Utah Valley University, has confessed multiple times in statements to family, friends, and online contacts shortly after the shooting. These admissions were detailed in court documents filed by Utah County prosecutors on September 16, 2025, as part of seven charges including aggravated murder, for which he faces the death penalty if convicted. He has not entered a formal plea in court and has remained silent during official proceedings, but the confessions form key evidence. Key Confessions:"

 
are just not adding up for me.


It isn't even close, and you are, like Charlie Kirk, NOTICING TOO MUCH TRUTH these three don't want you to notice...


CIA head meets Netanyahu, Mossad director in Jerusalem - JNS.org





 
Look at the video of Dylan coming down off the roof. Where is the rifle?
 
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Bullshit amateur physics aside it seems that the Mauser 30-06 rifle has been identified by ballistics as the murder weapon. Ballistic evidence is universally accepted in court and is something akin to a individual fingerprint. Why Ain't that good enough for amateur conspiracy theorists?
 
Bullshit amateur physics aside it seems that the Mauser 30-06 rifle has been identified by ballistics as the murder weapon. Ballistic evidence is universally accepted in court and is something akin to a individual fingerprint. Why Ain't that good enough for amateur conspiracy theorists?
I don't dispute that the Mauser was the murder weapon. (look at the expansion.)

I'm perplexed that it didn't blow straight through Charlie's neck, like we see in the first shot that went through JFK's neck.
 
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