Hegseth Orders 200 National Guard Troops to Portland—State Dems Immediately Flip Out, Take Action

[Mac-7]

He has been sued left and right and shit down by many courts. He is pushing the laws as far as he can and trying to get away with as much of a power grab as he can. That’s authoritarianism. I’m not calling it all illegal. I am calling it what it is though. Something you and your ILK can’t seem to do

All presidents are challenged in the courts

But what dems are doing through the rogue lower court judges borders on obstruction of justice

Because most of their decisions are eventually overturned

In my opinion those judges should be removed from the bench

 

[Zincwarrior]

Sure it does, see (2) and (3)

Specifically, they are there to help protect the ICE agents who are under assault by leftist mobs that want to keep illegals here.

Portland is not in Rebellion so #2 is right out.
There are other Federal agencies specifically tasked with protecting Federal Property. #3 is right out.

 

[struth]

Portland is not in Rebellion so #2 is right out.
There are other Federal agencies specifically tasked with protecting Federal Property. #3 is right out.

I don’t disagree the city isn’t

Many people there are.

Cool, but the fact there might be other agencies that can protect federal properties is not really relevant

You keep swinging and missing

 

[struth]

I posted the definition of fascism. Read it. It explains it all

I did, I knew the definition

But your post doesn’t answer my questions

 

[Old Rocks]

Hegseth Orders 200 National Guard Troops to Portland—State Dems Immediately Flip Out, Take Action

President Trump sends 200 National Guard troops to Portland amid ongoing protests.

redstate.com

It seems the leftists in Portland’istan are perfectly fine with their transtifa, blm heroes trashing the city.

I can only hope that the left will continue to whine and moan as more leftist Hell holes meet the resolve of President Trump’s law and order.

As long as your actions or self identity are not harming others, that is the definition of freedom, no matter what you or I think of it. Now I do think that we in Oregon need to take a course of action as these National Guard fellows arrive. Let us greet them with pie, beer, and coffee. After all, those soldiers are out children and grandchildren. They are not our enemy, and we are not their enemy. It is the right wing haters that are the enemy of all of us.

 

[Old Rocks]

Pie, coffee, and beer!

 

[Old Rocks]

An attack on a federal installation gets a federal response....Think Ft. Sumter.

You mean protesting the idiocy of the present admin is an attack?

 

[Winco]

Quit using the word fascist because you don't know what it means.

And trump also doesn't know.

So there.

 

[Old Rocks]

Dems are confederates. The want to keep illegals here so they can exploit them for cheap labor

Well for sure, the produce that cheap labor used to harvest will be a lot more dearer at the supermarket, and there will be a lot less of it. Meanwhile, there will be a bunch of farmers that no longer can afford to farm, already happening with corn and soy.

 

[Zincwarrior]

I don’t disagree the city isn’t

Many people there are.

Thats not insurrection.

Cool, but the fact there might be other agencies that can protect federal properties is not really relevant

It literally is per the law. Plus cops are better than Army to do cop things, and they aren't being ripped away from their real jobs and families to do it.

You keep swinging and missing

Thats a nope. A reminder, Trump has already lost this legally once, when they did this in LA.

 

[Mac-7]

You mean protesting the idiocy of the present admin is an attack?

Idiocy is libs fighting to allow illegal aliens to remain in this country instead of deporting them

 

[Man With A Plan]

Can’t say that and also hold water for Trumps blanket pardons for rioters. You no longer get to preach from the law and order soapbox

That's bullshit, Slade! You on the left hit those protesters that rioted with YEARS of prison time for something that was over in a matter of six hours! How much time have Antifa rioters been spending in prison for the months and YEARS of riots they've subjected the country to? All Trump did was pardon people who if they were on the left would have already been out of prison! Fair is fair.

 

[Man With A Plan]

Can’t say that and also hold water for Trumps blanket pardons for rioters. You no longer get to preach from the law and order soapbox

What's laughable is that you on the left portrayed the clashes with police on Jan. 6th as the worst thing to happen to the country since 9/11 or the Civil War...a riot that was over in a matter of hours and had the Capitol building open doing business the very next day! Compare THAT to the left's riots that burned Billions of dollars worth of property all over the country and went on for month after month! Nightly assaults on our Police. Some even going so far as to try and assassinate them. I know that your talking point is that the right is violent and the left is not but to be honest, Slade? That ship has long since sailed. The left seeks to impose it's agenda through physical intimidation and the sniper's bullet. That's who you ARE now!

 

[struth]

Thats not insurrection.


It literally is per the law. Plus cops are better than Army to do cop things, and they aren't being ripped away from their real jobs and families to do it.


Thats a nope. A reminder, Trump has already lost this legally once, when they did this in LA.

1) didn’t say it was

2) what is per the law? I don’t disagree cops are better at being cops than military is. Not sure your point.

3) troops are still in LA, what he did lose and what was made clear is the military can’t and isn’t doing cop things. They are only there supporting not arresting folks

 

[struth]

Well for sure, the produce that cheap labor used to harvest will be a lot more dearer at the supermarket, and there will be a lot less of it. Meanwhile, there will be a bunch of farmers that no longer can afford to farm, already happening with corn and soy.

yeah l, history shows you all used the same arguments about slavery

 

[kyzr]

Nearly four years later, the history of January 6 is still being fought over. Republicans have released footage shot by Alexandra Pelosi as they’ve tried to undercut the January 6 committee, absolve Trump of blame and try to instead blame Pelosi for the security failures that led to the breach of the Capitol. While Trump and his allies in Congress have repeatedly pointed the finger at Pelosi, the speaker of the House is not in charge of Capitol security.

Mayor Bowser is in-charge of the city, but not the Capitol Grounds, she requested and got 500 NG to help with traffic control for J6.
The Capitol Police Board (2 Sgts at Arms and the Architect) is in-charge of security for the Capitol Grounds. Pelosi's direct report, Sgt. at Arms Irving, on the Police Board, denied the request for the NG, and Capitol Police Chief Sund confirms that.

She raised questions about why security officials did not anticipate the level of violence that unfolded on January 6 and questioned why the National Guard had not been brought in earlier.

She did NOT QUESTION, she took responsibility for the decision. Sund requested the NG, so did Trump, google Gen Kellogg, or Kash, links follow. Trump requested the NG, but they never showed up.

DC Mayor Bowser’s Letter Refusing National Guard on January 6

Washington DC Mayor Muriel Bowser sends a letter to the Acting United States Attorney General, Secretary of the Army, and...

fightwithkash.com

Gen. Kellogg: Trump did request Nat'l Guard troops on Jan. 6th; asks Congress to release his testimony

Retired U.S. Army Gen. Keith Kellogg said President Donald Trump requested National Guard deployments in Washington D.C. before Jan. 6, 2021.

americanmilitarynews.com

“How many times did the members ask, ‘Are we prepared? Are we prepared?’ We’re not prepared for the worst,” Pelosi said. “We’re calling the National Guard, now? It should’ve been here to start out. I just don’t understand it. Why do we empower people this way by not being ready?”
Pelosi turned to her chief of staff, Terri McCullough, and said, “I feel responsible,” adding: “We have a responsibility, Terri. We did not have any accountability for what was going on there and we should have. This is ridiculous.”

She should have told Irving to approve Sund's request, instead of the "optics would look bad", so deny the request.

Thread 'Former Capital police Chief tells Pelosi that its time to be honest with the American people about Jan 6TH !'

Aug 14, 2025

Former Capital Police Chief Steven Sund posted a reply to a recent post on X by Nancy Pelosi where Pelosi claimed that Trump sent the National Guard to DC recently to distract from his incompetence but refused to send the Guard to protect the Capital on Jan 6th 2020 .. The former Capital Police Chief quickly responded refudiating Pelosis claims and told her it was time to be Honest with the American people !

Pelosi's post on X ...
"Donald Trump delayed deploying the National Guard on January 6th when our Capitol was under violent attack and lives were at stake," Pelosi posted to X...

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https://www.npr.org/2024/12/12/g-s1-37916/fbi-miss-capitol-january-6-attack

FBI missed 'basic step' in its intelligence efforts ahead of Jan. 6 Capitol riot​

"But the inspector general's office determined that the FBI failed to canvass its field offices ahead of Jan. 6, 2021, to identify any intelligence, including from informants, about potential threats that day to Congress' certification of Biden's electoral win. Such a step is common practice for the bureau ahead of a large event, and the failure to do so ahead of Jan. 6 was "a basic step that was missed," FBI deputy director Paul Abate told the watchdog."

So the FBI deliberately hid the fact that they knew there would be violence, but did not notify anyone, why not? Yet the FBI had many agents there fomenting that violence. Get Comey and the others under oath and ask why the FBI promoted the J6 riot.

FBI had 275 Undercover Agents in Crowd on Jan 6 | TexAgs

FBI had 275 Undercover Agents in Crowd on Jan 6 discussion on the TexAgs Politics forum.

texags.com

 

[hadit]

We are supposed to be a republic.

We are.

Not ruled by a federal dictator

We are not.

 

[Dagoth-Ur]

it amazes me to see so many so called conservatives cheer on an authoritarian federal government and completely dismiss principles of states rights. Just shows the cult like influence Trump has over his people

States don’t have the right to allow chaos, bedlam, and anarchy to reign supreme, also leftists don’t give a **** and a half about state’s rights expect to undermine federal immigration laws.

 

[yidnar]

it amazes me to see so many so called conservatives cheer on an authoritarian federal government and completely dismiss principles of states rights. Just shows the cult like influence Trump has over his people

protecting ICE facilities and federal buildings from terrorists isn't authoritarian ..

 

[yidnar]

There are many ways it could be handled. An overbearing military force from the federal government without coordination or support from the state is fascist behavior. Polar opposite of what conservatism used to stand for.

they are going in to protect ICE facilities and federal buildings from domestic terrorists . the leftist states refuse to coordinate and support those facilities..