Hegseth Orders 200 National Guard Troops to Portland—State Dems Immediately Flip Out, Take Action

[Hollie]

The government doesn't usually express mail me military orders.
Without the governor's consent, they can only protect Fed faculties. Again, 200 to protect a courthouse when there is a Fed LEO agency just for that is showboating.

Evidently Masked agents were patrolling in Chicago over the weekend as well looking for the immigrants washing dishes.

Those would be the illegal immigrants washing dishes and the illegal immigrants killing American citizens.

 

[Rawley]

The government doesn't usually express mail me military orders.

Uh, it was in the OP, but don't bother educating yourself, it's fun watching your breathtakingly ignorant rants.

Without the governor's consent, they can only protect Fed faculties. Again, 200 to protect a courthouse when there is a Fed LEO agency just for that is showboating.

QED Attaboi.

Evidently Masked agents were patrolling in Chicago over the weekend as well looking for the immigrants washing dishes.

Evidently, huh? LOL

 

[struth]

The government doesn't usually express mail me military orders.
Without the governor's consent, they can only protect Fed faculties. Again, 200 to protect a courthouse when there is a Fed LEO agency just for that is showboating.

Evidently Masked agents were patrolling in Chicago over the weekend as well looking for the immigrants washing dishes.

Incorrect, the President doesn't need the Gov consent, nor are they limited to Fed faculties.

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title10-section12406&num=0&edition=prelim

Is Chicago in the United States? Yes? Then they fall within the jurisdiction of ICE.

 

[LeftofLeft]

it amazes me to see so many so called conservatives cheer on an authoritarian federal government and completely dismiss principles of states rights. Just shows the cult like influence Trump has over his people

It amazes me how liberals will let their cities burn, be overrun with crime, assault, theft, and gangs and do nothing and get all fired up to fight any conservative effort to address these problems. Put that energy into addressing the problems in the cities you run.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Incorrect, the President doesn't need the Gov consent, nor are they limited to Fed faculties.

https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title10-section12406&num=0&edition=prelim

Is Chicago in the United States? Yes? Then they fall within the jurisdiction of ICE.

Bullshit. None of these apply. Read your own damn post.
Whenever-

(1) the United States, or any of the Commonwealths or possessions, is invaded or is in danger of invasion by a foreign nation;

(2) there is a rebellion or danger of a rebellion against the authority of the Government of the United States; or

(3) the President is unable with the regular forces to execute the laws of the United States;

 

[struth]

Bullshit. None of these apply. Read your own damn post.
Whenever-

(1) the United States, or any of the Commonwealths or possessions, is invaded or is in danger of invasion by a foreign nation;

(2) there is a rebellion or danger of a rebellion against the authority of the Government of the United States; or

(3) the President is unable with the regular forces to execute the laws of the United States;

Sure it does, see (2) and (3)

Specifically, they are there to help protect the ICE agents who are under assault by leftist mobs that want to keep illegals here.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

That sentiment is pretty much what the left has been counting on for the past three decades.

Get as far out of line as possible and then complain that the right is taking a law enforcement stance against their excess.

The problem is, for those who support the left, the right has finally taken it to heart to fight back in the name of decency.


And what do they do? "Wait, you guys never pushed back before!"

If you have a state government that will NOT hold the line of law and order, then the feds should step in and protect the citizens that the States will not.

It’s the left (democrats) vs Americans, not necessarily the right.

 

[WEATHER53]

It’s easy as pie
National guard guards the nation
States are a part of the nation

 

[sartre play]

It is interesting that the only places that Military are being sent.
Are places where a large percentage of the population hold a different political view?

 

[Slade3200]

It amazes me how liberals will let their cities burn, be overrun with crime, assault, theft, and gangs and do nothing and get all fired up to fight any conservative effort to address these problems. Put that energy into addressing the problems in the cities you run.

An unwelcomed release of troops in city streets by the federal government is not conservative. It’s fascist.

There is a reason why Trump is doing this in liberal areas and not conservative areas that have higher crime stats: it’s a trolling power grab / publicity stunt. Has nothing to do with law and order

 

[Mac-7]

I’m

its not slander when it’s accurate. Trump is prosecuting his political opposers. Stacking agencies with partisan hacks and yes men. Attacking the media. And exerting way more military and strongman power over our people and states than any federal leader has ever exerted in my lifetime. I don’t see how you can even try to deny any of that. go ahead and try. But do so with a real argument if you can muster one up

Everything trump does is within the law

Laws passed by libs and conservatives be before trump took office

 

[Slade3200]

What's the over use? What's facsist about following a law passed by Congress?

I posted the definition of fascism. Read it. It explains it all

 

[LeftofLeft]

An unwelcomed release of troops in city streets by the federal government is not conservative. It’s fascist.

There is a reason why Trump is doing this in liberal areas and not conservative areas that have higher crime stats: it’s a trolling power grab / publicity stunt. Has nothing to do with law and order

Fascist is threatening people with their jobs unless they get vaccinated. Fascism is threatening to throw people in prison if they question vaccines. Fascism is doxxing people at home.

Liberal areas and their inability and non-willingness to address crime and lawlessness make it easy and compelling for Trump to deploy troops.

 

[Slade3200]

A goofy slogan. Identify what fascism™ is being used to solve what problem.

Authoritative force to overrun state authorities. Attacking political enemies. Attacks on the press. Nationalistic propaganda constantly being pumped out. Intent partisanship leading agencies etc etc etc. it’s in your face. Open your eyes

 

[Slade3200]

I take it that you’re claiming your transtifa and Blm heroes are legitimate opposition groups. Tell us about the political and economic goals your heroes hope to implement.

You’re being dishonest again. I haven’t said a word about ANTIFA or BLM, that’s just you trying to distract from the conversation. Do better

 

[Slade3200]

Everything trump does is within the law

Laws passed by libs and conservatives be before trump took office

He has been sued left and right and shit down by many courts. He is pushing the laws as far as he can and trying to get away with as much of a power grab as he can. That’s authoritarianism. I’m not calling it all illegal. I am calling it what it is though. Something you and your ILK can’t seem to do

 

[22lcidw]

Only the gullible and dishonest would confuse trumps power grab with “law and order” the blanket vetos given out for all involved with the capital riots and his criminal allies are obvious proof of that

Trump knows what you are. He knows that Progressives caused all of this. And as part of their agendas has caused their cities to decay. If this is not true and you were experimenting on social rights, then you failed. And for continuing it are inept incompetents.

 

[WEATHER53]

An unwelcomed release of troops in city streets by the federal government is not conservative. It’s fascist.

There is a reason why Trump is doing this in liberal areas and not conservative areas that have higher crime stats: it’s a trolling power grab / publicity stunt. Has nothing to do with law and order

The nation does not need state approval when the states region has descended into lawlessness the local region will not correct.

 

[Foxfyre]

There are many ways it could be handled. An overbearing military force from the federal government without coordination or support from the state is fascist behavior. Polar opposite of what conservatism used to stand for.

If the federal government cannot protect and defend federal properties and American citizens anywhere in the country, then how can it fulfill its constitutional obligation to provide the national defense? Exactly how is fulfilling its constitutional obligation to provide the national defense 'fascist behavior?'

Where in the Constitution does the state have authority to allow ANTIFA or any other terrorist group run rampant in the streets, terrorize/endanger the citizens, destroy property, violate their constitutionally protected unalienable rights etc. with impunity? And the federal government has no authority to protect the citizens in states where such danger to citizens is allowed?

The Stafford Act may provide the President et al with cover and override some assumptions in the Posse Comitatus act when terrorist activities or other extreme behavior is underway.

All elected and appointed federal officials, military, and other employees are required to answer in the affirmative to the following:

Do you solemnly swear that you will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that you will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that you take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that you will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which you are about to enter: So help you God?

So obviously there are some gray areas here.

 

[Zincwarrior]

The nation does not need state approval when the states region has descended into lawlessness the local region will not correct.

Except it hasn't of course.