Hegseth fires Navy’s top officer

[Seymour Flops]

Love watching Conservative women bad mouth women in positions of authority

Meanwhile, you have nothing but praise for Pam Bondi and Kristi Noem?

 

[Meister]

All Presidents fire top ranking officers.

But I notice you have a fixation on that bald headed lipstick wearing whoever he was that worked for Biden. Never paid attention to him myself but you have a sick perversion.

I know a deflection when I read one, and yours is just deflecting,
It's okay if that's all you got.

 

[Thinker101]

Trump knows….

Women, Negroes, Hispanics are not qualified for leadership
Gays? Forgetaboutit

Only White males have the “merit” Trump demands

Negroes!!! You fricken racist pig.

 

[Foxfyre]

Actually, I lived through affirmative action
I started working in the late 70s when all positions of authority were held by white males.

Women, Blacks, Hispanics, Asians lacked the “essentials” for executive decisions.
They were best suited for menial or low level tasks

So did I. Yes it opened doors for people and it was actually necessary in the months following desegregation to give minorities/women opportunity to prove themselves in areas they had been excluded. Mostly it helped revise cultural feelings and get people used to working with people different from themselves, perhaps coming to see others as people.

But once that was accomplished, affirmative action should have ended within a year or two. Because it was continued, millions of competent qualified women and minorities were seen as the token/affirmative action employee and never respected for their ability or competence.

And that was great exacerbated when they lowered standards for woman and minorities so they could qualify for jobs. That not only seriously harmed competent women and minorities, but it weakened us as a nation.

And Obama/Biden's DEI based on race and gender and ideology instead of actual competence and ability double downed on that.

 

[Lisa558]

Love watching Conservative women bad mouth women in positions of authority

Badmouth incompetent women who were picked due to female blackness, yes. I notice you left that detail out.

 

[rightwinger]

So did I. Yes it opened doors for people and it was actually necessary in the months following desegregation to give minorities/women opportunity to prove themselves in areas they had been excluded. Mostly it helped revise cultural feelings and get people used to working with people different from themselves, perhaps coming to see others as people.

But once that was accomplished, affirmative action should have ended within a year or two. Because it was continued, millions of competent qualified women and minorities were seen as the token/affirmative action employee and never respected for their ability or competence.

And that was great exacerbated when they lowered standards for woman and minorities so they could qualify for jobs. That not only seriously harmed competent women and minorities, but it weakened us as a nation.

And Obama/Biden's DEI based on race and gender and ideology instead of actual competence and ability double downed on that.

It took more than a few years for Affirmative Action to take hold.

I recently went to my 50th HS reunion and leafed through my Yearbook

Under plans, most females put down teaching, nursing, Secretary, beautician

You have come a long way baby

Thank Affirmative Action

 

[Meister]

It took more than a few years for Affirmative Action to take hold.

I recently went to my 50th HS reunion and leafed through my Yearbook

Under plans, most females put down teaching, nursing, Secretary, beautician

You have come a long way baby

Thank Affirmative Action

The dinosaurs day had come and gone, so has affirmative action.

 

[Foxfyre]

It took more than a few years for Affirmative Action to take hold.

I recently went to my 50th HS reunion and leafed through my Yearbook

Under plans, most females put down teaching, nursing, Secretary, beautician

You have come a long way baby

Thank Affirmative Action

I don't thank Affirmative Action at all. I have held a lot of jobs typically held by men, but the ONLY reason I got them was I had the skill and knowledge to do them and they couldn't find a man to hire. Once I was employed and showed what I could do, I earned a grudging respect from my male colleagues. But I never had to deal with being the 'token' woman.

My good friend who happened to be black did. She was one of the most brilliant capable people I have ever known, but she was never able to get the respect and recognition she observed because she was always regarded as the affirmative action employee. It was one of the must frustrating aspects of her life.

And DEI not only looks at skin color etc. instead of ability which is nothing short of criminal when it happens in government that is supposed to be working for the people.

 

[Lisa558]

It took more than a few years for Affirmative Action to take hold.

I recently went to my 50th HS reunion and leafed through my Yearbook

Under plans, most females put down teaching, nursing, Secretary, beautician

You have come a long way baby

Thank Affirmative Action

Odd. I graduated 50 years ago as well (OMG), and the girls I knew in college were business majors primarily, but also pre-law, and all my friends except one went on to grad school. I knew ONE education major, and NOBODY in nursing.

Nursing and teaching were the majors for my parents’ generation - when women went to college in the 1940s.

 

[Lisa558]

I don't thank Affirmative Action at all. I have held a lot of jobs typically held by men, but the ONLY reason I got them was I had the skill and knowledge to do them and they couldn't find a man to hire. Once I was employed and showed what I could do, I earned a grudging respect from my male colleagues. But I never had to deal with being the 'token' woman.

My good friend who happened to be black did. She was one of the most brilliant capable people I have ever known, but she was never able to get the respect and recognition she observed because she was always regarded as the affirmative action employee. It was one of the must frustrating aspects of her life.

Yes, and there are two groups who are penalized as a result of affirmative action.

1) As you note, the one out of three blacks who would have gotten into their prestigious colleges even under the higher “white” standards. Any who worked in or adjacent to admissions could tell you that two out of three blacks who were admitted would have been rejected if white. Given the ratio, it is understandable that employers would wonder if the black applicant in front of them got in due to AA, since the odds are just that.

2) The other group, obviously, are the whites, Asians, and Jews who scored higher and had higher grades but were rejected in order for the school to meet their black admissions goals. Many of them, particularly in the medical field, had to give up their dreams of becoming a doctor while other less qualified applicants got in due to their skin color.

 

[Foxfyre]

Odd. I graduated 50 years ago as well (OMG), and the girls I knew in college were business majors primarily, but also pre-law, and all my friends except one went on to grad school. I knew ONE education major, and NOBODY in nursing.

Nursing and teaching were the majors for my parents’ generation - when women went to college in the 1940s.

I have been in secretarial and other administrative type jobs at times over the years too, and was very good at it. And with a couple of exceptions, I enjoyed all of them. But I agree that even before affirmative action, a lot of my classmates went into professional careers--doctors, lawyers, engineering, etc. And I am older than you are.

I married a man in a profession that caused him to be transferred a lot. As a result I was the one who had to start over in each new town and sometimes it took two or three different jobs before I found one I really enjoyed. That gives me a very varied and eclectic resume as I have done so many different things because of that. But it also gave me a lot of insight into how the various employment systems work.

Affirmative Action was necessary at the very beginning. But it definitely should have ended after a year or two.

 

[rightwinger]

I don't thank Affirmative Action at all. I have held a lot of jobs typically held by men, but the ONLY reason I got them was I had the skill and knowledge to do them and they couldn't find a man to hire. Once I was employed and showed what I could do, I earned a grudging respect from my male colleagues. But I never had to deal with being the 'token' woman.

A generation ago, you would have never had the opportunity for that level jobs. I saw female college graduates in Secretarial positions
I saw the beginning of Affirmative Action and it was ugly. People were put into jobs they were not prepared for and they were not accepted by their peers.
It took about a decade for people to succeed in those positions. Now, nobody thinks twice

 

[Lisa558]

I have been in secretarial and other administrative type jobs at times over the years too, and was very good at it. And with a couple of exceptions, I enjoyed all of them. But I agree that even before affirmative action, a lot of my classmates went into professional careers--doctors, lawyers, engineering, etc. And I am older than you are.

Someone is older than I am!

 

[Foxfyre]

Someone is older than I am!

Yep. I'm older than fire but twice as hot. LOL

 

[WEATHER53]

Merit and competence need to outweigh everything else.

Don’t you realize the DEI pick for VP in 2020 forced Dems into an unwinnable position in 2024?

Population has gotten hip to Dems endless virtue signaling

 

[rightwinger]

The dinosaurs day had come and gone, so has affirmative action.

Unfortunately not

You would think after all these years that Affirmative Action would be a done deal.

Then, along came Trump
Now, MAGA looks at every woman, black, Hispanic or gay as only getting their jobs because of DEI

 

[Lisa558]

Population has gotten hip to Dems endless virtue signaling

And yet the libs on this board haven’t wised up at all.

 

[DonGlock26]

They are definitely cleaning house. It is within Trump’s authority to put people in place that he chooses.

Hegseth fires Navy's top officer, Air Force No. 2 - Breaking Defense

The firings of Adm. Lisa Franchetti and Gen. James Slife follows tonight's removal of Gen. CQ Brown as chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

breakingdefense.com

 

[WEATHER53]

DEI is the repackaged word for affirmative action, don't kid yourself or try to BS anyone on this board.

Remember when Biden 'won' the presidency and he tipped his hand by saying what kind of person
was going to be nominated and picked for positions in his administration?
That was pure DEI Affirmative Action and nothing to do with merit.

At least AA did have minimum qualifying standards. DEI was worse with only quallies being race, sex, sexual confusion, ineptitude , race, sex, race, sex…….

 

[DonGlock26]

Trump knows they only got their positions because of DEI

These positions need to be filled by white males….like they used to be

Just put the best people in and let the chips fall where they may. The racial/gender quotas of the Left are racist and sexist.