Heated disagreement breaks out in Situation Room over hydroxychloroquine, Navarro vs Fauci

You should find a packed church and go hang out in there for about a week. But straight home after that, we don't want you infecting any other people.

Something to consider, as 23 million Americans had their lives destroyed so far by government edicts that destroyed their jobs and their ability to keep a roof over their head or food for their children:

NOT ONE GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE AT ANY LEVEL HAS OR WILL MISS A SINGLE PAYCHECK.

Government workers are all for a shutdown of 10 years, what do they care?

So, you work for what, county? State? Federal?
 
Democrats are going to be in for a very rude awakening in the short term when hydroxychloroquine or a named branded derivative/concoction with azythromycin(e.g. Percocet) ends up being the go to drug. It is almost there now, they just don't know it because they keep watching the MSM and the lefties. Trump said it and they hate it. It is that simple. God forbid it got American back to work before the Democrats could get the amount of economic damage(and disinformation) they need to even have a chance in the upcoming election.

More and more research is showing not only its efficacy as a form of treatment, but the mechanism by which it is working. The good thing is that even the Democrats can't control this world-wide research. The entire world isn't as interested in getting at Trump at all costs, including dragging their feet with regards to this drug.

No Democrat anywhere is opposing doctors using these drugs if they are effective and recommended as a course of treatment. Widespread approval for distribution will take years of clinical trials, research, and data. But the Trump supporters see the distribution of this drug as their shot from beyond the arc to save Trump's re-election chances. Forgetting at the same time that voters this fall will be judging him on his response to the virus. Which was abysmal.
We do not have years. The virus is here and killing people daily. His response and daily briefings have been excellent and his approval ratings reflect that.

And if the patients doctor recommends the drugs as a course of treatment, it will be administered. Approval will take months, maybe years of research. Again, this isn't a miracle drug that will save Trump. He's cooked his own goose here.
Excellent briefings?..LOL. I am always amazed at Trump supporters ability to make their own reality. They really do live in their own little world. His briefings are rambling, disjointed diatribes laced with the occasional dangerous pieces of misinformation.
Months and years? Hydrox has been around for 70 years. What are you researching? Doctors all over the world are using it. People are dying now. There is no more time to research. What part of that do you not understand? Doctors are prescribing it. Millions of doses. Do you not read/watch the news? Wake up, Leftist.

I watch the news every day as well as post here. And I know desperation when I smell it. A desperate bid to save Trump's chances in November. Yes, these drugs have been around for years....and are approved to treat certain conditions..which there is a plethora of data for detailing their benefits..after years of research and testing. The FDA took the rails down and doctors are free to prescribe these drugs if they believe they will help the patient. The drug has shown promise in treating infected patients. But taking something that has shown promise in a small group (relatively speaking) and extrapolating that out to say it works for everyone is dangerous. Doctors prescribe medications and decide if they are appropriate. Not politicians or right wing media figures.

So who said it will work for everybody?

That's what the hope is for Trump's supporters. Distribute the drug to all infected. Send everyone back to work, open things up. Presto, Trump gets to do the one thing he's good at again. Campaign.
Trump? How about all the struggling Americans who need the jobs and the income? Your TDS is working overtime today. A great economy is great for everyone. You would rather watch people die and suffer so long as Trump loses? That is frankly sick.

Well, maybe if Trump acts like a President in January and takes the virus outbreak seriously, shutting down the country might not have been needed. But he decided it was more important to golf, hold his rallies, and tweet than it was to actually do his job. But his rabid supporters refuse to hold him accountable. It's everybody else's fault. Yes Trump Defense Syndrome is rampant. It is proving especially resistant to the drug combination of reason and common sense.


China and the WHO were lying to the world about it. If Trump ignored them, you would have said he was dumping on the experts. You are FOS

One of the things that makes me shake my head about rabid Trump supporters like you is that you will never hold him accountable for anything. It's always someone else's fault. Same crap Trump has been pulling his entire adult life.
We are the greatest nation in the world. We don't wait for any country or organization to act before we do. Trump is an incompetent fraud. It's no surprise he failed to act. He doesn't have the capacity.


I hold him fully responsible for our rapid and effective response to this virus.

Its Ok, if you hate him, but please stop the lies about the virus response. It has been outstanding in every way.

No he hasn't. Outside of restricting travel from China and Europe, he largely did nothing until he was forced to on March 13th. But if that's the bar you supporters set for him, that's not my problem. If Trump displayed your idea of "outstanding" in my company, he'd have already been shown the door. I understand he's your guy, though.
 
Democrats are going to be in for a very rude awakening in the short term when hydroxychloroquine or a named branded derivative/concoction with azythromycin(e.g. Percocet) ends up being the go to drug. It is almost there now, they just don't know it because they keep watching the MSM and the lefties. Trump said it and they hate it. It is that simple. God forbid it got American back to work before the Democrats could get the amount of economic damage(and disinformation) they need to even have a chance in the upcoming election.

More and more research is showing not only its efficacy as a form of treatment, but the mechanism by which it is working. The good thing is that even the Democrats can't control this world-wide research. The entire world isn't as interested in getting at Trump at all costs, including dragging their feet with regards to this drug.

No Democrat anywhere is opposing doctors using these drugs if they are effective and recommended as a course of treatment. Widespread approval for distribution will take years of clinical trials, research, and data. But the Trump supporters see the distribution of this drug as their shot from beyond the arc to save Trump's re-election chances. Forgetting at the same time that voters this fall will be judging him on his response to the virus. Which was abysmal.
We do not have years. The virus is here and killing people daily. His response and daily briefings have been excellent and his approval ratings reflect that.

And if the patients doctor recommends the drugs as a course of treatment, it will be administered. Approval will take months, maybe years of research. Again, this isn't a miracle drug that will save Trump. He's cooked his own goose here.
Excellent briefings?..LOL. I am always amazed at Trump supporters ability to make their own reality. They really do live in their own little world. His briefings are rambling, disjointed diatribes laced with the occasional dangerous pieces of misinformation.
Months and years? Hydrox has been around for 70 years. What are you researching? Doctors all over the world are using it. People are dying now. There is no more time to research. What part of that do you not understand? Doctors are prescribing it. Millions of doses. Do you not read/watch the news? Wake up, Leftist.

I watch the news every day as well as post here. And I know desperation when I smell it. A desperate bid to save Trump's chances in November. Yes, these drugs have been around for years....and are approved to treat certain conditions..which there is a plethora of data for detailing their benefits..after years of research and testing. The FDA took the rails down and doctors are free to prescribe these drugs if they believe they will help the patient. The drug has shown promise in treating infected patients. But taking something that has shown promise in a small group (relatively speaking) and extrapolating that out to say it works for everyone is dangerous. Doctors prescribe medications and decide if they are appropriate. Not politicians or right wing media figures.

So who said it will work for everybody?

That's what the hope is for Trump's supporters. Distribute the drug to all infected. Send everyone back to work, open things up. Presto, Trump gets to do the one thing he's good at again. Campaign.
Trump? How about all the struggling Americans who need the jobs and the income? Your TDS is working overtime today. A great economy is great for everyone. You would rather watch people die and suffer so long as Trump loses? That is frankly sick.

Well, maybe if Trump acts like a President in January and takes the virus outbreak seriously, shutting down the country might not have been needed. But he decided it was more important to golf, hold his rallies, and tweet than it was to actually do his job. But his rabid supporters refuse to hold him accountable. It's everybody else's fault. Yes Trump Defense Syndrome is rampant. It is proving especially resistant to the drug combination of reason and common sense.


China and the WHO were lying to the world about it. If Trump ignored them, you would have said he was dumping on the experts. You are FOS

One of the things that makes me shake my head about rabid Trump supporters like you is that you will never hold him accountable for anything. It's always someone else's fault. Same crap Trump has been pulling his entire adult life.
We are the greatest nation in the world. We don't wait for any country or organization to act before we do. Trump is an incompetent fraud. It's no surprise he failed to act. He doesn't have the capacity.


I hold him fully responsible for our rapid and effective response to this virus.

Its Ok, if you hate him, but please stop the lies about the virus response. It has been outstanding in every way.

No he hasn't. Outside of restricting travel from China and Europe, he largely did nothing until he was forced to on March 13th. But if that's the bar you supporters set for him, that's not my problem. If Trump displayed your idea of "outstanding" in my company, he'd have already been shown the door. I understand he's your guy, though.
Restricting travel to Europe didn’t happen until March 12th.
 
Democrats are going to be in for a very rude awakening in the short term when hydroxychloroquine or a named branded derivative/concoction with azythromycin(e.g. Percocet) ends up being the go to drug. It is almost there now, they just don't know it because they keep watching the MSM and the lefties. Trump said it and they hate it. It is that simple. God forbid it got American back to work before the Democrats could get the amount of economic damage(and disinformation) they need to even have a chance in the upcoming election.

More and more research is showing not only its efficacy as a form of treatment, but the mechanism by which it is working. The good thing is that even the Democrats can't control this world-wide research. The entire world isn't as interested in getting at Trump at all costs, including dragging their feet with regards to this drug.

No Democrat anywhere is opposing doctors using these drugs if they are effective and recommended as a course of treatment. Widespread approval for distribution will take years of clinical trials, research, and data. But the Trump supporters see the distribution of this drug as their shot from beyond the arc to save Trump's re-election chances. Forgetting at the same time that voters this fall will be judging him on his response to the virus. Which was abysmal.
We do not have years. The virus is here and killing people daily. His response and daily briefings have been excellent and his approval ratings reflect that.

And if the patients doctor recommends the drugs as a course of treatment, it will be administered. Approval will take months, maybe years of research. Again, this isn't a miracle drug that will save Trump. He's cooked his own goose here.
Excellent briefings?..LOL. I am always amazed at Trump supporters ability to make their own reality. They really do live in their own little world. His briefings are rambling, disjointed diatribes laced with the occasional dangerous pieces of misinformation.


what misinformation has been put out at the daily briefings? you made the allegation, back it up.

Trump's handling of this unforeseen, one of a kind, virus invasion has been better than anyone could have expected. When he blocked Chinese incoming travel, you assholes called him racist (chinese is not a race) and xenophobic, same when he block travel from Europe. But those bans have saved thousands, if not millions, of american lives.

So tell us, oh brilliant one, what would hillary have done better or differently? Be specific, no talking points or bullshit.

Still on Hillary after what? 3 years now? Trump is President. Not Hillary. Not Obama. Not Biden. He owns this disaster.
Done differently? Or better? Take your pick. Rubio, Cruz, Bush, even Pence responds better.

I'll wait for the rabid Trump supporter response. :)


So in your small mind Trump is responsible for a virus created in china and lied about for months by China and the WHO?

Yes, trump is president and will be until 2025.

so let me repeat my question: what would any of your dem heroes done differently? You call it a disaster, tell us what any of them would have done to prevent the "disaster".

or as an alternative, you could just STFU and go away.

Your answer. They would have taken the virus threat seriously and acted. In other words, they would have done their jobs. All of them. Even the Republican candidates for President in 2016.
Your boy fucked up. And he'll be shown the door for it in November. But you keep hope alive. Now, back to the alt-right dungeon with you. :)


I asked you what they would have done differently, "taken it seriously" is not an answer. specifically with time lines, what would any of them have done differently? Biden said stopping travel from China was racist (chinese is not a race) and xenophobic. Now, he says it was the right thing to do. From that we can only conclude that he would have delayed the ban until more americans had been infected.
 
Democrats are going to be in for a very rude awakening in the short term when hydroxychloroquine or a named branded derivative/concoction with azythromycin(e.g. Percocet) ends up being the go to drug. It is almost there now, they just don't know it because they keep watching the MSM and the lefties. Trump said it and they hate it. It is that simple. God forbid it got American back to work before the Democrats could get the amount of economic damage(and disinformation) they need to even have a chance in the upcoming election.

More and more research is showing not only its efficacy as a form of treatment, but the mechanism by which it is working. The good thing is that even the Democrats can't control this world-wide research. The entire world isn't as interested in getting at Trump at all costs, including dragging their feet with regards to this drug.

No Democrat anywhere is opposing doctors using these drugs if they are effective and recommended as a course of treatment. Widespread approval for distribution will take years of clinical trials, research, and data. But the Trump supporters see the distribution of this drug as their shot from beyond the arc to save Trump's re-election chances. Forgetting at the same time that voters this fall will be judging him on his response to the virus. Which was abysmal.
We do not have years. The virus is here and killing people daily. His response and daily briefings have been excellent and his approval ratings reflect that.

And if the patients doctor recommends the drugs as a course of treatment, it will be administered. Approval will take months, maybe years of research. Again, this isn't a miracle drug that will save Trump. He's cooked his own goose here.
Excellent briefings?..LOL. I am always amazed at Trump supporters ability to make their own reality. They really do live in their own little world. His briefings are rambling, disjointed diatribes laced with the occasional dangerous pieces of misinformation.
Months and years? Hydrox has been around for 70 years. What are you researching? Doctors all over the world are using it. People are dying now. There is no more time to research. What part of that do you not understand? Doctors are prescribing it. Millions of doses. Do you not read/watch the news? Wake up, Leftist.

I watch the news every day as well as post here. And I know desperation when I smell it. A desperate bid to save Trump's chances in November. Yes, these drugs have been around for years....and are approved to treat certain conditions..which there is a plethora of data for detailing their benefits..after years of research and testing. The FDA took the rails down and doctors are free to prescribe these drugs if they believe they will help the patient. The drug has shown promise in treating infected patients. But taking something that has shown promise in a small group (relatively speaking) and extrapolating that out to say it works for everyone is dangerous. Doctors prescribe medications and decide if they are appropriate. Not politicians or right wing media figures.

So who said it will work for everybody?

That's what the hope is for Trump's supporters. Distribute the drug to all infected. Send everyone back to work, open things up. Presto, Trump gets to do the one thing he's good at again. Campaign.
Trump? How about all the struggling Americans who need the jobs and the income? Your TDS is working overtime today. A great economy is great for everyone. You would rather watch people die and suffer so long as Trump loses? That is frankly sick.

Well, maybe if Trump acts like a President in January and takes the virus outbreak seriously, shutting down the country might not have been needed. But he decided it was more important to golf, hold his rallies, and tweet than it was to actually do his job. But his rabid supporters refuse to hold him accountable. It's everybody else's fault. Yes Trump Defense Syndrome is rampant. It is proving especially resistant to the drug combination of reason and common sense.


China and the WHO were lying to the world about it. If Trump ignored them, you would have said he was dumping on the experts. You are FOS

One of the things that makes me shake my head about rabid Trump supporters like you is that you will never hold him accountable for anything. It's always someone else's fault. Same crap Trump has been pulling his entire adult life.
We are the greatest nation in the world. We don't wait for any country or organization to act before we do. Trump is an incompetent fraud. It's no surprise he failed to act. He doesn't have the capacity.


I hold him fully responsible for our rapid and effective response to this virus.

Its Ok, if you hate him, but please stop the lies about the virus response. It has been outstanding in every way.

No he hasn't. Outside of restricting travel from China and Europe, he largely did nothing until he was forced to on March 13th. But if that's the bar you supporters set for him, that's not my problem. If Trump displayed your idea of "outstanding" in my company, he'd have already been shown the door. I understand he's your guy, though.


your opinion and you are entitled to it. Its bullshit, but thats OK. My vote will cancel yours------------every time.
 
Democrats are going to be in for a very rude awakening in the short term when hydroxychloroquine or a named branded derivative/concoction with azythromycin(e.g. Percocet) ends up being the go to drug. It is almost there now, they just don't know it because they keep watching the MSM and the lefties. Trump said it and they hate it. It is that simple. God forbid it got American back to work before the Democrats could get the amount of economic damage(and disinformation) they need to even have a chance in the upcoming election.

More and more research is showing not only its efficacy as a form of treatment, but the mechanism by which it is working. The good thing is that even the Democrats can't control this world-wide research. The entire world isn't as interested in getting at Trump at all costs, including dragging their feet with regards to this drug.

No Democrat anywhere is opposing doctors using these drugs if they are effective and recommended as a course of treatment. Widespread approval for distribution will take years of clinical trials, research, and data. But the Trump supporters see the distribution of this drug as their shot from beyond the arc to save Trump's re-election chances. Forgetting at the same time that voters this fall will be judging him on his response to the virus. Which was abysmal.
We do not have years. The virus is here and killing people daily. His response and daily briefings have been excellent and his approval ratings reflect that.

And if the patients doctor recommends the drugs as a course of treatment, it will be administered. Approval will take months, maybe years of research. Again, this isn't a miracle drug that will save Trump. He's cooked his own goose here.
Excellent briefings?..LOL. I am always amazed at Trump supporters ability to make their own reality. They really do live in their own little world. His briefings are rambling, disjointed diatribes laced with the occasional dangerous pieces of misinformation.


what misinformation has been put out at the daily briefings? you made the allegation, back it up.

Trump's handling of this unforeseen, one of a kind, virus invasion has been better than anyone could have expected. When he blocked Chinese incoming travel, you assholes called him racist (chinese is not a race) and xenophobic, same when he block travel from Europe. But those bans have saved thousands, if not millions, of american lives.

So tell us, oh brilliant one, what would hillary have done better or differently? Be specific, no talking points or bullshit.

Still on Hillary after what? 3 years now? Trump is President. Not Hillary. Not Obama. Not Biden. He owns this disaster.
Done differently? Or better? Take your pick. Rubio, Cruz, Bush, even Pence responds better.

I'll wait for the rabid Trump supporter response. :)


So in your small mind Trump is responsible for a virus created in china and lied about for months by China and the WHO?

Yes, trump is president and will be until 2025.

so let me repeat my question: what would any of your dem heroes done differently? You call it a disaster, tell us what any of them would have done to prevent the "disaster".

or as an alternative, you could just STFU and go away.
Better testing early on. Better tracking. Better measures to isolate the early cases and track their contacts.

We had a chance early on to prevent this. We missed it. The response was badly run, slow, delayed and mismanaged.
 
Democrats are going to be in for a very rude awakening in the short term when hydroxychloroquine or a named branded derivative/concoction with azythromycin(e.g. Percocet) ends up being the go to drug. It is almost there now, they just don't know it because they keep watching the MSM and the lefties. Trump said it and they hate it. It is that simple. God forbid it got American back to work before the Democrats could get the amount of economic damage(and disinformation) they need to even have a chance in the upcoming election.

More and more research is showing not only its efficacy as a form of treatment, but the mechanism by which it is working. The good thing is that even the Democrats can't control this world-wide research. The entire world isn't as interested in getting at Trump at all costs, including dragging their feet with regards to this drug.

No Democrat anywhere is opposing doctors using these drugs if they are effective and recommended as a course of treatment. Widespread approval for distribution will take years of clinical trials, research, and data. But the Trump supporters see the distribution of this drug as their shot from beyond the arc to save Trump's re-election chances. Forgetting at the same time that voters this fall will be judging him on his response to the virus. Which was abysmal.
We do not have years. The virus is here and killing people daily. His response and daily briefings have been excellent and his approval ratings reflect that.

Yeah they do...

Poll: Majority of Americans now disapprove of federal coronavirus efforts, Trump’s handling of crisis
Sigh

Politico is Fake News

Yes, we know. Anything that does not praise your dear leader, your lord and master, is "fake news". Except it's not. It's actual news on the actual mishandling by this faking it administration.

He didn't mishandle anything. Blame your precious bureaucracies for anything you didn't like. He was following their cue.
Yes, he has has pretty much mishandled everything. His only saving grace has been the "deep state bureaucracies". He would be doing much better politically if he would shut up and let the experts do the talking. His rambling, often off topic, diatribes are not helping.
This post shows your bias and illogic. His daily press conferences are must see TV for knowledge as he has Dr. Birx and Dr. Fauci there as well. You have lost all credibility here.

Yes, the parts that have only the doctors speaking are informative and fact based...then Trump takes the microphone.
Bullshit. He gives stats too and speaks about the likes of Boris Johnson and the PPP. You are either trolling or you’re stupid. I am leaning toward the latter.

Stats that are usually wrong.

Wow, he "speaks about the likes of BoJo". Yeah, that makes up his utterly insane rambling.
He doesn’t ramble. You do not know the meaning of the word. Why do you bother? You cannot stand him. If he cured diabetes you would still hate him. You’re not objective.

Weird then that this was so easy to find....

Trump claimed America is in 'great shape' amid coronavirus outbreak during rambling White House remarks

So strange that they used the word rambling to describe someone you say "doesn't ramble". Are you saying the journalist at The Hill doesn't know the meaning of the word either?

The man cannot make a simple statement without filling it full of off the cuff non sequiturs. That's also known as rambling.

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, oh what a Christmas we all would have.
He explained he didn't want to panic the country and we are in better shape than most. First US death was in late Feb and we shut the country down in Mid March. Don't be a snowflake.

What does that have to do with his rambling?

We are not in better shape than anyone. We have the highest death rates and we are one of the worst for per capita testing.
You're kidding. We are not in better shape than the UK and Italy for instance? Are you drunk?
No, we're not. Seriously, Fox hasn't told you that we're number one in cases and deaths?

Yes, we are aware of that. We are also smart enough to understand that percentages are what matters, not shear number of cases and deaths. That metric is meant for the ignorant to swallow.
 
Democrats are going to be in for a very rude awakening in the short term when hydroxychloroquine or a named branded derivative/concoction with azythromycin(e.g. Percocet) ends up being the go to drug. It is almost there now, they just don't know it because they keep watching the MSM and the lefties. Trump said it and they hate it. It is that simple. God forbid it got American back to work before the Democrats could get the amount of economic damage(and disinformation) they need to even have a chance in the upcoming election.

More and more research is showing not only its efficacy as a form of treatment, but the mechanism by which it is working. The good thing is that even the Democrats can't control this world-wide research. The entire world isn't as interested in getting at Trump at all costs, including dragging their feet with regards to this drug.

No Democrat anywhere is opposing doctors using these drugs if they are effective and recommended as a course of treatment. Widespread approval for distribution will take years of clinical trials, research, and data. But the Trump supporters see the distribution of this drug as their shot from beyond the arc to save Trump's re-election chances. Forgetting at the same time that voters this fall will be judging him on his response to the virus. Which was abysmal.
We do not have years. The virus is here and killing people daily. His response and daily briefings have been excellent and his approval ratings reflect that.

Yeah they do...

Poll: Majority of Americans now disapprove of federal coronavirus efforts, Trump’s handling of crisis
Sigh

Politico is Fake News

Yes, we know. Anything that does not praise your dear leader, your lord and master, is "fake news". Except it's not. It's actual news on the actual mishandling by this faking it administration.

He didn't mishandle anything. Blame your precious bureaucracies for anything you didn't like. He was following their cue.
Yes, he has has pretty much mishandled everything. His only saving grace has been the "deep state bureaucracies". He would be doing much better politically if he would shut up and let the experts do the talking. His rambling, often off topic, diatribes are not helping.
This post shows your bias and illogic. His daily press conferences are must see TV for knowledge as he has Dr. Birx and Dr. Fauci there as well. You have lost all credibility here.

Ive watched a few. I haven’t learned anything. Trump’s participation in them is completely superfluous. He speaks with very little confidence.
Not a surprise. I have learned a lot. Particularly with the new treatments and PPP.

I wouldn’t listen to anything Trump says about treatments. His statements do not reflect the evidence available. When I hear him speak, his rhetoric is all over the map. It has very little internal consistency.
Pretty consistent for me and he 99% of the time defers to Birx and Fauci.
You know how you see a commercial for an over the counter product where they say their product is shown to treat a specific issue and then at the end of the commercial they say “this product is not intended to treat any medical condition”. That’s what I think of when I hear Trump talk.

What those commercials actually say is they are not recommending their product in place of a doctor. Neither is the President. He is not saying you must take it, not saying to buy it off the street, not saying it's a substitute for your doctors advice. All he is saying is that it has shown promising results, and perhaps YOUR doctor should consider it for your treatment in the unfortunate situation you contract this virus.

Trump is dramatically overstating the evidence in support of hydroxychloroquine which he isn’t really qualified to evaluate anyway. In other cases he’s making up evidence whole cloth (zinc).

Those commercials are having it both ways. Saying this probably works but we don’t know if it works. Trump is doing the same thing. People believe Trump when they say it works, there’s evidence, good evidence or promising results.

It’s doublespeak. He’s been doing it for a long time.

You are so wrong on this it isn't even funny. Trump is getting this information from medical professionals. He didn't just happen to mention zinc willy nilly. Zinc plays a role in preventing the replication of several known viruses. That is a well known fact. The combination of it with hydoxychoroquine is very much inline with common medical thought with regards to fighting this. The media is not telling you this because they want you to remained uninformed and couch ridden for obvious reasons.
 
Democrats are going to be in for a very rude awakening in the short term when hydroxychloroquine or a named branded derivative/concoction with azythromycin(e.g. Percocet) ends up being the go to drug. It is almost there now, they just don't know it because they keep watching the MSM and the lefties. Trump said it and they hate it. It is that simple. God forbid it got American back to work before the Democrats could get the amount of economic damage(and disinformation) they need to even have a chance in the upcoming election.

More and more research is showing not only its efficacy as a form of treatment, but the mechanism by which it is working. The good thing is that even the Democrats can't control this world-wide research. The entire world isn't as interested in getting at Trump at all costs, including dragging their feet with regards to this drug.

No Democrat anywhere is opposing doctors using these drugs if they are effective and recommended as a course of treatment. Widespread approval for distribution will take years of clinical trials, research, and data. But the Trump supporters see the distribution of this drug as their shot from beyond the arc to save Trump's re-election chances. Forgetting at the same time that voters this fall will be judging him on his response to the virus. Which was abysmal.
We do not have years. The virus is here and killing people daily. His response and daily briefings have been excellent and his approval ratings reflect that.

And if the patients doctor recommends the drugs as a course of treatment, it will be administered. Approval will take months, maybe years of research. Again, this isn't a miracle drug that will save Trump. He's cooked his own goose here.
Excellent briefings?..LOL. I am always amazed at Trump supporters ability to make their own reality. They really do live in their own little world. His briefings are rambling, disjointed diatribes laced with the occasional dangerous pieces of misinformation.
Months and years? Hydrox has been around for 70 years. What are you researching? Doctors all over the world are using it. People are dying now. There is no more time to research. What part of that do you not understand? Doctors are prescribing it. Millions of doses. Do you not read/watch the news? Wake up, Leftist.

I watch the news every day as well as post here. And I know desperation when I smell it. A desperate bid to save Trump's chances in November. Yes, these drugs have been around for years....and are approved to treat certain conditions..which there is a plethora of data for detailing their benefits..after years of research and testing. The FDA took the rails down and doctors are free to prescribe these drugs if they believe they will help the patient. The drug has shown promise in treating infected patients. But taking something that has shown promise in a small group (relatively speaking) and extrapolating that out to say it works for everyone is dangerous. Doctors prescribe medications and decide if they are appropriate. Not politicians or right wing media figures.

So who said it will work for everybody?

That's what the hope is for Trump's supporters. Distribute the drug to all infected. Send everyone back to work, open things up. Presto, Trump gets to do the one thing he's good at again. Campaign.
Trump? How about all the struggling Americans who need the jobs and the income? Your TDS is working overtime today. A great economy is great for everyone. You would rather watch people die and suffer so long as Trump loses? That is frankly sick.

Well, maybe if Trump acts like a President in January and takes the virus outbreak seriously, shutting down the country might not have been needed. But he decided it was more important to golf, hold his rallies, and tweet than it was to actually do his job. But his rabid supporters refuse to hold him accountable. It's everybody else's fault. Yes Trump Defense Syndrome is rampant. It is proving especially resistant to the drug combination of reason and common sense.


China and the WHO were lying to the world about it. If Trump ignored them, you would have said he was dumping on the experts. You are FOS

One of the things that makes me shake my head about rabid Trump supporters like you is that you will never hold him accountable for anything. It's always someone else's fault. Same crap Trump has been pulling his entire adult life.
We are the greatest nation in the world. We don't wait for any country or organization to act before we do. Trump is an incompetent fraud. It's no surprise he failed to act. He doesn't have the capacity.


I hold him fully responsible for our rapid and effective response to this virus.

Its Ok, if you hate him, but please stop the lies about the virus response. It has been outstanding in every way.

No he hasn't. Outside of restricting travel from China and Europe, he largely did nothing until he was forced to on March 13th. But if that's the bar you supporters set for him, that's not my problem. If Trump displayed your idea of "outstanding" in my company, he'd have already been shown the door. I understand he's your guy, though.


your opinion and you are entitled to it. Its bullshit, but thats OK. My vote will cancel yours------------every time.

Trump's timeline of inaction is on display for the whole world to read if they want. And unless you live in my state, your vote does not cancel mine.
Your only hope for Trump right now is a repeat of some sort of miracle that backed him into the White House in 2016. Good Luck with that.
 
Democrats are going to be in for a very rude awakening in the short term when hydroxychloroquine or a named branded derivative/concoction with azythromycin(e.g. Percocet) ends up being the go to drug. It is almost there now, they just don't know it because they keep watching the MSM and the lefties. Trump said it and they hate it. It is that simple. God forbid it got American back to work before the Democrats could get the amount of economic damage(and disinformation) they need to even have a chance in the upcoming election.

More and more research is showing not only its efficacy as a form of treatment, but the mechanism by which it is working. The good thing is that even the Democrats can't control this world-wide research. The entire world isn't as interested in getting at Trump at all costs, including dragging their feet with regards to this drug.

No Democrat anywhere is opposing doctors using these drugs if they are effective and recommended as a course of treatment. Widespread approval for distribution will take years of clinical trials, research, and data. But the Trump supporters see the distribution of this drug as their shot from beyond the arc to save Trump's re-election chances. Forgetting at the same time that voters this fall will be judging him on his response to the virus. Which was abysmal.
We do not have years. The virus is here and killing people daily. His response and daily briefings have been excellent and his approval ratings reflect that.

Yeah they do...

Poll: Majority of Americans now disapprove of federal coronavirus efforts, Trump’s handling of crisis
Sigh

Politico is Fake News

Yes, we know. Anything that does not praise your dear leader, your lord and master, is "fake news". Except it's not. It's actual news on the actual mishandling by this faking it administration.

He didn't mishandle anything. Blame your precious bureaucracies for anything you didn't like. He was following their cue.
Yes, he has has pretty much mishandled everything. His only saving grace has been the "deep state bureaucracies". He would be doing much better politically if he would shut up and let the experts do the talking. His rambling, often off topic, diatribes are not helping.
This post shows your bias and illogic. His daily press conferences are must see TV for knowledge as he has Dr. Birx and Dr. Fauci there as well. You have lost all credibility here.

Yes, the parts that have only the doctors speaking are informative and fact based...then Trump takes the microphone.

I can hardly wait until the doctor's you are touting now take the mic and say we recommend hydroxchloroquine, zinc and azythromycin as a treatment for this virus. You guys are so far behind the curve it isn't funny. Stop being spoon fed information from the MSM. It will do wonders for your well being.
 
Why is every health system in the world ordering it?
Just in case it is shown to be effective, so that they have enough, since they know demand will then be high. Pretty simple.

Right, they are making it just in case. They could be making more Lexipro too just in case(maybe they should to prescribe to the lefties who are overly anxious), but they aren't. It stands to reason why they are going out on a limb. The evidence suggest this is a pretty stable tree to be climbing. To continue with the tree analogy, if you are caught in a flood, it would behoove you to grab the limb of the most stable tree available so as not to be washed away. Democrats seem to be suggesting to let the flood carry you to certain death over the falls. I mean, God forbid you grab the tree and the limb breaks, you would be in the same dire situation you were in before. Logic is not Democrat's strong suit.
 
Democrats are going to be in for a very rude awakening in the short term when hydroxychloroquine or a named branded derivative/concoction with azythromycin(e.g. Percocet) ends up being the go to drug. It is almost there now, they just don't know it because they keep watching the MSM and the lefties. Trump said it and they hate it. It is that simple. God forbid it got American back to work before the Democrats could get the amount of economic damage(and disinformation) they need to even have a chance in the upcoming election.

More and more research is showing not only its efficacy as a form of treatment, but the mechanism by which it is working. The good thing is that even the Democrats can't control this world-wide research. The entire world isn't as interested in getting at Trump at all costs, including dragging their feet with regards to this drug.

No Democrat anywhere is opposing doctors using these drugs if they are effective and recommended as a course of treatment. Widespread approval for distribution will take years of clinical trials, research, and data. But the Trump supporters see the distribution of this drug as their shot from beyond the arc to save Trump's re-election chances. Forgetting at the same time that voters this fall will be judging him on his response to the virus. Which was abysmal.
We do not have years. The virus is here and killing people daily. His response and daily briefings have been excellent and his approval ratings reflect that.

Yeah they do...

Poll: Majority of Americans now disapprove of federal coronavirus efforts, Trump’s handling of crisis
Sigh

Politico is Fake News

Yes, we know. Anything that does not praise your dear leader, your lord and master, is "fake news". Except it's not. It's actual news on the actual mishandling by this faking it administration.

He didn't mishandle anything. Blame your precious bureaucracies for anything you didn't like. He was following their cue.
Yes, he has has pretty much mishandled everything. His only saving grace has been the "deep state bureaucracies". He would be doing much better politically if he would shut up and let the experts do the talking. His rambling, often off topic, diatribes are not helping.
This post shows your bias and illogic. His daily press conferences are must see TV for knowledge as he has Dr. Birx and Dr. Fauci there as well. You have lost all credibility here.

Ive watched a few. I haven’t learned anything. Trump’s participation in them is completely superfluous. He speaks with very little confidence.
Not a surprise. I have learned a lot. Particularly with the new treatments and PPP.

I wouldn’t listen to anything Trump says about treatments. His statements do not reflect the evidence available. When I hear him speak, his rhetoric is all over the map. It has very little internal consistency.
Pretty consistent for me and he 99% of the time defers to Birx and Fauci.
You know how you see a commercial for an over the counter product where they say their product is shown to treat a specific issue and then at the end of the commercial they say “this product is not intended to treat any medical condition”. That’s what I think of when I hear Trump talk.

What those commercials actually say is they are not recommending their product in place of a doctor. Neither is the President. He is not saying you must take it, not saying to buy it off the street, not saying it's a substitute for your doctors advice. All he is saying is that it has shown promising results, and perhaps YOUR doctor should consider it for your treatment in the unfortunate situation you contract this virus.

Trump is dramatically overstating the evidence in support of hydroxychloroquine which he isn’t really qualified to evaluate anyway. In other cases he’s making up evidence whole cloth (zinc).

Those commercials are having it both ways. Saying this probably works but we don’t know if it works. Trump is doing the same thing. People believe Trump when they say it works, there’s evidence, good evidence or promising results.

It’s doublespeak. He’s been doing it for a long time.

You are so wrong on this it isn't even funny. Trump is getting this information from medical professionals. He didn't just happen to mention zinc willy nilly. Zinc plays a role in preventing the replication of several known viruses. That is a well known fact. The combination of it with hydoxychoroquine is very much inline with common medical thought with regards to fighting this. The media is not telling you this because they want you to remained uninformed and couch ridden for obvious reasons.

No. He’s not getting his information solely from medical advisors. He’s getting it from Fox News personalities and other friendly media outlets.

His medical advisors have been consistently contradicting him on the strength of the evidence.

Zinc does not have a role in treating any viral infection. People have been making that claim for decades without any evidence to support it.
 
Democrats are going to be in for a very rude awakening in the short term when hydroxychloroquine or a named branded derivative/concoction with azythromycin(e.g. Percocet) ends up being the go to drug. It is almost there now, they just don't know it because they keep watching the MSM and the lefties. Trump said it and they hate it. It is that simple. God forbid it got American back to work before the Democrats could get the amount of economic damage(and disinformation) they need to even have a chance in the upcoming election.

More and more research is showing not only its efficacy as a form of treatment, but the mechanism by which it is working. The good thing is that even the Democrats can't control this world-wide research. The entire world isn't as interested in getting at Trump at all costs, including dragging their feet with regards to this drug.

No Democrat anywhere is opposing doctors using these drugs if they are effective and recommended as a course of treatment. Widespread approval for distribution will take years of clinical trials, research, and data. But the Trump supporters see the distribution of this drug as their shot from beyond the arc to save Trump's re-election chances. Forgetting at the same time that voters this fall will be judging him on his response to the virus. Which was abysmal.
We do not have years. The virus is here and killing people daily. His response and daily briefings have been excellent and his approval ratings reflect that.

Yeah they do...

Poll: Majority of Americans now disapprove of federal coronavirus efforts, Trump’s handling of crisis
Sigh

Politico is Fake News

Yes, we know. Anything that does not praise your dear leader, your lord and master, is "fake news". Except it's not. It's actual news on the actual mishandling by this faking it administration.

He didn't mishandle anything. Blame your precious bureaucracies for anything you didn't like. He was following their cue.
Yes, he has has pretty much mishandled everything. His only saving grace has been the "deep state bureaucracies". He would be doing much better politically if he would shut up and let the experts do the talking. His rambling, often off topic, diatribes are not helping.
This post shows your bias and illogic. His daily press conferences are must see TV for knowledge as he has Dr. Birx and Dr. Fauci there as well. You have lost all credibility here.

Ive watched a few. I haven’t learned anything. Trump’s participation in them is completely superfluous. He speaks with very little confidence.
Not a surprise. I have learned a lot. Particularly with the new treatments and PPP.

I wouldn’t listen to anything Trump says about treatments. His statements do not reflect the evidence available. When I hear him speak, his rhetoric is all over the map. It has very little internal consistency.
Pretty consistent for me and he 99% of the time defers to Birx and Fauci.
You know how you see a commercial for an over the counter product where they say their product is shown to treat a specific issue and then at the end of the commercial they say “this product is not intended to treat any medical condition”. That’s what I think of when I hear Trump talk.

What those commercials actually say is they are not recommending their product in place of a doctor. Neither is the President. He is not saying you must take it, not saying to buy it off the street, not saying it's a substitute for your doctors advice. All he is saying is that it has shown promising results, and perhaps YOUR doctor should consider it for your treatment in the unfortunate situation you contract this virus.

Trump is dramatically overstating the evidence in support of hydroxychloroquine which he isn’t really qualified to evaluate anyway. In other cases he’s making up evidence whole cloth (zinc).

Those commercials are having it both ways. Saying this probably works but we don’t know if it works. Trump is doing the same thing. People believe Trump when they say it works, there’s evidence, good evidence or promising results.

It’s doublespeak. He’s been doing it for a long time.

You are so wrong on this it isn't even funny. Trump is getting this information from medical professionals. He didn't just happen to mention zinc willy nilly. Zinc plays a role in preventing the replication of several known viruses. That is a well known fact. The combination of it with hydoxychoroquine is very much inline with common medical thought with regards to fighting this. The media is not telling you this because they want you to remained uninformed and couch ridden for obvious reasons.

No. He’s not getting his information solely from medical advisors. He’s getting it from Fox News personalities and other friendly media outlets.

His medical advisors have been consistently contradicting him on the strength of the evidence.

Zinc does not have a role in treating any viral infection. People have been making that claim for decades without any evidence to support it.

This is almost sad. Zinc absolutely inhibits replication of certain viruses. You are totally clueless. In fact, you may want to read the link below from 2010 about the effects of zinc.

Zn2+ Inhibits Coronavirus and Arterivirus RNA Polymerase Activity In Vitro and Zinc Ionophores Block the Replication of These Viruses in Cell Culture

"Increasing the intracellular Zn2+ concentration with zinc-ionophores like pyrithione (PT) can efficiently impair the replication of a variety of RNA viruses, including poliovirus and influenza virus."

This is only one of many, many medical studies. You obviously didn't go to medical school.
 
Democrats are going to be in for a very rude awakening in the short term when hydroxychloroquine or a named branded derivative/concoction with azythromycin(e.g. Percocet) ends up being the go to drug. It is almost there now, they just don't know it because they keep watching the MSM and the lefties. Trump said it and they hate it. It is that simple. God forbid it got American back to work before the Democrats could get the amount of economic damage(and disinformation) they need to even have a chance in the upcoming election.

More and more research is showing not only its efficacy as a form of treatment, but the mechanism by which it is working. The good thing is that even the Democrats can't control this world-wide research. The entire world isn't as interested in getting at Trump at all costs, including dragging their feet with regards to this drug.

No Democrat anywhere is opposing doctors using these drugs if they are effective and recommended as a course of treatment. Widespread approval for distribution will take years of clinical trials, research, and data. But the Trump supporters see the distribution of this drug as their shot from beyond the arc to save Trump's re-election chances. Forgetting at the same time that voters this fall will be judging him on his response to the virus. Which was abysmal.
We do not have years. The virus is here and killing people daily. His response and daily briefings have been excellent and his approval ratings reflect that.

Yeah they do...

Poll: Majority of Americans now disapprove of federal coronavirus efforts, Trump’s handling of crisis
Sigh

Politico is Fake News

Yes, we know. Anything that does not praise your dear leader, your lord and master, is "fake news". Except it's not. It's actual news on the actual mishandling by this faking it administration.

He didn't mishandle anything. Blame your precious bureaucracies for anything you didn't like. He was following their cue.
Yes, he has has pretty much mishandled everything. His only saving grace has been the "deep state bureaucracies". He would be doing much better politically if he would shut up and let the experts do the talking. His rambling, often off topic, diatribes are not helping.
This post shows your bias and illogic. His daily press conferences are must see TV for knowledge as he has Dr. Birx and Dr. Fauci there as well. You have lost all credibility here.

Ive watched a few. I haven’t learned anything. Trump’s participation in them is completely superfluous. He speaks with very little confidence.
Not a surprise. I have learned a lot. Particularly with the new treatments and PPP.

I wouldn’t listen to anything Trump says about treatments. His statements do not reflect the evidence available. When I hear him speak, his rhetoric is all over the map. It has very little internal consistency.
Pretty consistent for me and he 99% of the time defers to Birx and Fauci.
You know how you see a commercial for an over the counter product where they say their product is shown to treat a specific issue and then at the end of the commercial they say “this product is not intended to treat any medical condition”. That’s what I think of when I hear Trump talk.

What those commercials actually say is they are not recommending their product in place of a doctor. Neither is the President. He is not saying you must take it, not saying to buy it off the street, not saying it's a substitute for your doctors advice. All he is saying is that it has shown promising results, and perhaps YOUR doctor should consider it for your treatment in the unfortunate situation you contract this virus.

Trump is dramatically overstating the evidence in support of hydroxychloroquine which he isn’t really qualified to evaluate anyway. In other cases he’s making up evidence whole cloth (zinc).

Those commercials are having it both ways. Saying this probably works but we don’t know if it works. Trump is doing the same thing. People believe Trump when they say it works, there’s evidence, good evidence or promising results.

It’s doublespeak. He’s been doing it for a long time.

You are so wrong on this it isn't even funny. Trump is getting this information from medical professionals. He didn't just happen to mention zinc willy nilly. Zinc plays a role in preventing the replication of several known viruses. That is a well known fact. The combination of it with hydoxychoroquine is very much inline with common medical thought with regards to fighting this. The media is not telling you this because they want you to remained uninformed and couch ridden for obvious reasons.

No. He’s not getting his information solely from medical advisors. He’s getting it from Fox News personalities and other friendly media outlets.

His medical advisors have been consistently contradicting him on the strength of the evidence.

Zinc does not have a role in treating any viral infection. People have been making that claim for decades without any evidence to support it.
He said "I heard Zinc may help, check with your doctor". His press conferences have saved countless lives. Don't dismiss them and I have provided proof.
 
Democrats are going to be in for a very rude awakening in the short term when hydroxychloroquine or a named branded derivative/concoction with azythromycin(e.g. Percocet) ends up being the go to drug. It is almost there now, they just don't know it because they keep watching the MSM and the lefties. Trump said it and they hate it. It is that simple. God forbid it got American back to work before the Democrats could get the amount of economic damage(and disinformation) they need to even have a chance in the upcoming election.

More and more research is showing not only its efficacy as a form of treatment, but the mechanism by which it is working. The good thing is that even the Democrats can't control this world-wide research. The entire world isn't as interested in getting at Trump at all costs, including dragging their feet with regards to this drug.

No Democrat anywhere is opposing doctors using these drugs if they are effective and recommended as a course of treatment. Widespread approval for distribution will take years of clinical trials, research, and data. But the Trump supporters see the distribution of this drug as their shot from beyond the arc to save Trump's re-election chances. Forgetting at the same time that voters this fall will be judging him on his response to the virus. Which was abysmal.
We do not have years. The virus is here and killing people daily. His response and daily briefings have been excellent and his approval ratings reflect that.

Yeah they do...

Poll: Majority of Americans now disapprove of federal coronavirus efforts, Trump’s handling of crisis
Sigh

Politico is Fake News

Yes, we know. Anything that does not praise your dear leader, your lord and master, is "fake news". Except it's not. It's actual news on the actual mishandling by this faking it administration.

He didn't mishandle anything. Blame your precious bureaucracies for anything you didn't like. He was following their cue.
Yes, he has has pretty much mishandled everything. His only saving grace has been the "deep state bureaucracies". He would be doing much better politically if he would shut up and let the experts do the talking. His rambling, often off topic, diatribes are not helping.
This post shows your bias and illogic. His daily press conferences are must see TV for knowledge as he has Dr. Birx and Dr. Fauci there as well. You have lost all credibility here.

Ive watched a few. I haven’t learned anything. Trump’s participation in them is completely superfluous. He speaks with very little confidence.
Not a surprise. I have learned a lot. Particularly with the new treatments and PPP.

I wouldn’t listen to anything Trump says about treatments. His statements do not reflect the evidence available. When I hear him speak, his rhetoric is all over the map. It has very little internal consistency.
Pretty consistent for me and he 99% of the time defers to Birx and Fauci.
You know how you see a commercial for an over the counter product where they say their product is shown to treat a specific issue and then at the end of the commercial they say “this product is not intended to treat any medical condition”. That’s what I think of when I hear Trump talk.

What those commercials actually say is they are not recommending their product in place of a doctor. Neither is the President. He is not saying you must take it, not saying to buy it off the street, not saying it's a substitute for your doctors advice. All he is saying is that it has shown promising results, and perhaps YOUR doctor should consider it for your treatment in the unfortunate situation you contract this virus.

Trump is dramatically overstating the evidence in support of hydroxychloroquine which he isn’t really qualified to evaluate anyway. In other cases he’s making up evidence whole cloth (zinc).

Those commercials are having it both ways. Saying this probably works but we don’t know if it works. Trump is doing the same thing. People believe Trump when they say it works, there’s evidence, good evidence or promising results.

It’s doublespeak. He’s been doing it for a long time.

You are so wrong on this it isn't even funny. Trump is getting this information from medical professionals. He didn't just happen to mention zinc willy nilly. Zinc plays a role in preventing the replication of several known viruses. That is a well known fact. The combination of it with hydoxychoroquine is very much inline with common medical thought with regards to fighting this. The media is not telling you this because they want you to remained uninformed and couch ridden for obvious reasons.

No. He’s not getting his information solely from medical advisors. He’s getting it from Fox News personalities and other friendly media outlets.

His medical advisors have been consistently contradicting him on the strength of the evidence.

Zinc does not have a role in treating any viral infection. People have been making that claim for decades without any evidence to support it.

This is almost sad. Zinc absolutely inhibits replication of certain viruses. You are totally clueless. In fact, you may want to read the link below from 2010 about the effects of zinc.

Zn2+ Inhibits Coronavirus and Arterivirus RNA Polymerase Activity In Vitro and Zinc Ionophores Block the Replication of These Viruses in Cell Culture

"Increasing the intracellular Zn2+ concentration with zinc-ionophores like pyrithione (PT) can efficiently impair the replication of a variety of RNA viruses, including poliovirus and influenza virus."

This is only one of many, many medical studies. You obviously didn't go to medical school.
Quick question. Why is it "almost" sad. It is very much, sad. Politics over lives = Leftist mantra.
 
Democrats are going to be in for a very rude awakening in the short term when hydroxychloroquine or a named branded derivative/concoction with azythromycin(e.g. Percocet) ends up being the go to drug. It is almost there now, they just don't know it because they keep watching the MSM and the lefties. Trump said it and they hate it. It is that simple. God forbid it got American back to work before the Democrats could get the amount of economic damage(and disinformation) they need to even have a chance in the upcoming election.

More and more research is showing not only its efficacy as a form of treatment, but the mechanism by which it is working. The good thing is that even the Democrats can't control this world-wide research. The entire world isn't as interested in getting at Trump at all costs, including dragging their feet with regards to this drug.

No Democrat anywhere is opposing doctors using these drugs if they are effective and recommended as a course of treatment. Widespread approval for distribution will take years of clinical trials, research, and data. But the Trump supporters see the distribution of this drug as their shot from beyond the arc to save Trump's re-election chances. Forgetting at the same time that voters this fall will be judging him on his response to the virus. Which was abysmal.
We do not have years. The virus is here and killing people daily. His response and daily briefings have been excellent and his approval ratings reflect that.

Yeah they do...

Poll: Majority of Americans now disapprove of federal coronavirus efforts, Trump’s handling of crisis
Sigh

Politico is Fake News

Yes, we know. Anything that does not praise your dear leader, your lord and master, is "fake news". Except it's not. It's actual news on the actual mishandling by this faking it administration.

He didn't mishandle anything. Blame your precious bureaucracies for anything you didn't like. He was following their cue.
Yes, he has has pretty much mishandled everything. His only saving grace has been the "deep state bureaucracies". He would be doing much better politically if he would shut up and let the experts do the talking. His rambling, often off topic, diatribes are not helping.
This post shows your bias and illogic. His daily press conferences are must see TV for knowledge as he has Dr. Birx and Dr. Fauci there as well. You have lost all credibility here.

Yes, the parts that have only the doctors speaking are informative and fact based...then Trump takes the microphone.
Bullshit. He gives stats too and speaks about the likes of Boris Johnson and the PPP. You are either trolling or you’re stupid. I am leaning toward the latter.

Stats that are usually wrong.

Wow, he "speaks about the likes of BoJo". Yeah, that makes up his utterly insane rambling.
He doesn’t ramble. You do not know the meaning of the word. Why do you bother? You cannot stand him. If he cured diabetes you would still hate him. You’re not objective.

Weird then that this was so easy to find....

Trump claimed America is in 'great shape' amid coronavirus outbreak during rambling White House remarks

So strange that they used the word rambling to describe someone you say "doesn't ramble". Are you saying the journalist at The Hill doesn't know the meaning of the word either?

The man cannot make a simple statement without filling it full of off the cuff non sequiturs. That's also known as rambling.

If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, oh what a Christmas we all would have.
He explained he didn't want to panic the country and we are in better shape than most. First US death was in late Feb and we shut the country down in Mid March. Don't be a snowflake.

What does that have to do with his rambling?

We are not in better shape than anyone. We have the highest death rates and we are one of the worst for per capita testing.
You're kidding. We are not in better shape than the UK and Italy for instance? Are you drunk?
No, we're not. Seriously, Fox hasn't told you that we're number one in cases and deaths?
We are #1 in cases because we test the most. Deaths, I do not believe because China is lying!

We also have a population that is old and unhealthy, prime targets. Lastly, take out NYC and we are doing great. NYC is a disaster. Blue state....

You fall for Trump's lies? NY is America. People are dying, not liberals or conservatives. Not Blue staters or Red staters, Americans.

The Coronavirus Isn’t Just A Blue State Problem

I had theH1N1 flu in 2009. I didn’t blame Obama. Why? Because I am not a jackass.
 
Democrats are going to be in for a very rude awakening in the short term when hydroxychloroquine or a named branded derivative/concoction with azythromycin(e.g. Percocet) ends up being the go to drug. It is almost there now, they just don't know it because they keep watching the MSM and the lefties. Trump said it and they hate it. It is that simple. God forbid it got American back to work before the Democrats could get the amount of economic damage(and disinformation) they need to even have a chance in the upcoming election.

More and more research is showing not only its efficacy as a form of treatment, but the mechanism by which it is working. The good thing is that even the Democrats can't control this world-wide research. The entire world isn't as interested in getting at Trump at all costs, including dragging their feet with regards to this drug.

No Democrat anywhere is opposing doctors using these drugs if they are effective and recommended as a course of treatment. Widespread approval for distribution will take years of clinical trials, research, and data. But the Trump supporters see the distribution of this drug as their shot from beyond the arc to save Trump's re-election chances. Forgetting at the same time that voters this fall will be judging him on his response to the virus. Which was abysmal.
We do not have years. The virus is here and killing people daily. His response and daily briefings have been excellent and his approval ratings reflect that.

And if the patients doctor recommends the drugs as a course of treatment, it will be administered. Approval will take months, maybe years of research. Again, this isn't a miracle drug that will save Trump. He's cooked his own goose here.
Excellent briefings?..LOL. I am always amazed at Trump supporters ability to make their own reality. They really do live in their own little world. His briefings are rambling, disjointed diatribes laced with the occasional dangerous pieces of misinformation.
Months and years? Hydrox has been around for 70 years. What are you researching? Doctors all over the world are using it. People are dying now. There is no more time to research. What part of that do you not understand? Doctors are prescribing it. Millions of doses. Do you not read/watch the news? Wake up, Leftist.

I watch the news every day as well as post here. And I know desperation when I smell it. A desperate bid to save Trump's chances in November. Yes, these drugs have been around for years....and are approved to treat certain conditions..which there is a plethora of data for detailing their benefits..after years of research and testing. The FDA took the rails down and doctors are free to prescribe these drugs if they believe they will help the patient. The drug has shown promise in treating infected patients. But taking something that has shown promise in a small group (relatively speaking) and extrapolating that out to say it works for everyone is dangerous. Doctors prescribe medications and decide if they are appropriate. Not politicians or right wing media figures.

So who said it will work for everybody?

That's what the hope is for Trump's supporters. Distribute the drug to all infected. Send everyone back to work, open things up. Presto, Trump gets to do the one thing he's good at again. Campaign.
Trump? How about all the struggling Americans who need the jobs and the income? Your TDS is working overtime today. A great economy is great for everyone. You would rather watch people die and suffer so long as Trump loses? That is frankly sick.

Well, maybe if Trump acts like a President in January and takes the virus outbreak seriously, shutting down the country might not have been needed. But he decided it was more important to golf, hold his rallies, and tweet than it was to actually do his job. But his rabid supporters refuse to hold him accountable. It's everybody else's fault. Yes Trump Defense Syndrome is rampant. It is proving especially resistant to the drug combination of reason and common sense.


China and the WHO were lying to the world about it. If Trump ignored them, you would have said he was dumping on the experts. You are FOS

One of the things that makes me shake my head about rabid Trump supporters like you is that you will never hold him accountable for anything. It's always someone else's fault. Same crap Trump has been pulling his entire adult life.
We are the greatest nation in the world. We don't wait for any country or organization to act before we do. Trump is an incompetent fraud. It's no surprise he failed to act. He doesn't have the capacity.


I hold him fully responsible for our rapid and effective response to this virus.

Its Ok, if you hate him, but please stop the lies about the virus response. It has been outstanding in every way.

No he hasn't. Outside of restricting travel from China and Europe, he largely did nothing until he was forced to on March 13th. But if that's the bar you supporters set for him, that's not my problem. If Trump displayed your idea of "outstanding" in my company, he'd have already been shown the door. I understand he's your guy, though.


Democrats are going to be in for a very rude awakening in the short term when hydroxychloroquine or a named branded derivative/concoction with azythromycin(e.g. Percocet) ends up being the go to drug. It is almost there now, they just don't know it because they keep watching the MSM and the lefties. Trump said it and they hate it. It is that simple. God forbid it got American back to work before the Democrats could get the amount of economic damage(and disinformation) they need to even have a chance in the upcoming election.

More and more research is showing not only its efficacy as a form of treatment, but the mechanism by which it is working. The good thing is that even the Democrats can't control this world-wide research. The entire world isn't as interested in getting at Trump at all costs, including dragging their feet with regards to this drug.

No Democrat anywhere is opposing doctors using these drugs if they are effective and recommended as a course of treatment. Widespread approval for distribution will take years of clinical trials, research, and data. But the Trump supporters see the distribution of this drug as their shot from beyond the arc to save Trump's re-election chances. Forgetting at the same time that voters this fall will be judging him on his response to the virus. Which was abysmal.
We do not have years. The virus is here and killing people daily. His response and daily briefings have been excellent and his approval ratings reflect that.

And if the patients doctor recommends the drugs as a course of treatment, it will be administered. Approval will take months, maybe years of research. Again, this isn't a miracle drug that will save Trump. He's cooked his own goose here.
Excellent briefings?..LOL. I am always amazed at Trump supporters ability to make their own reality. They really do live in their own little world. His briefings are rambling, disjointed diatribes laced with the occasional dangerous pieces of misinformation.
Months and years? Hydrox has been around for 70 years. What are you researching? Doctors all over the world are using it. People are dying now. There is no more time to research. What part of that do you not understand? Doctors are prescribing it. Millions of doses. Do you not read/watch the news? Wake up, Leftist.

I watch the news every day as well as post here. And I know desperation when I smell it. A desperate bid to save Trump's chances in November. Yes, these drugs have been around for years....and are approved to treat certain conditions..which there is a plethora of data for detailing their benefits..after years of research and testing. The FDA took the rails down and doctors are free to prescribe these drugs if they believe they will help the patient. The drug has shown promise in treating infected patients. But taking something that has shown promise in a small group (relatively speaking) and extrapolating that out to say it works for everyone is dangerous. Doctors prescribe medications and decide if they are appropriate. Not politicians or right wing media figures.

So who said it will work for everybody?

That's what the hope is for Trump's supporters. Distribute the drug to all infected. Send everyone back to work, open things up. Presto, Trump gets to do the one thing he's good at again. Campaign.
Trump? How about all the struggling Americans who need the jobs and the income? Your TDS is working overtime today. A great economy is great for everyone. You would rather watch people die and suffer so long as Trump loses? That is frankly sick.

Well, maybe if Trump acts like a President in January and takes the virus outbreak seriously, shutting down the country might not have been needed. But he decided it was more important to golf, hold his rallies, and tweet than it was to actually do his job. But his rabid supporters refuse to hold him accountable. It's everybody else's fault. Yes Trump Defense Syndrome is rampant. It is proving especially resistant to the drug combination of reason and common sense.


China and the WHO were lying to the world about it. If Trump ignored them, you would have said he was dumping on the experts. You are FOS

One of the things that makes me shake my head about rabid Trump supporters like you is that you will never hold him accountable for anything. It's always someone else's fault. Same crap Trump has been pulling his entire adult life.
We are the greatest nation in the world. We don't wait for any country or organization to act before we do. Trump is an incompetent fraud. It's no surprise he failed to act. He doesn't have the capacity.


I hold him fully responsible for our rapid and effective response to this virus.

Its Ok, if you hate him, but please stop the lies about the virus response. It has been outstanding in every way.

No he hasn't. Outside of restricting travel from China and Europe, he largely did nothing until he was forced to on March 13th. But if that's the bar you supporters set for him, that's not my problem. If Trump displayed your idea of "outstanding" in my company, he'd have already been shown the door. I understand he's your guy, though.

The President acted on advice from the CDC. They were calling the shots, not the President.
 
Democrats are going to be in for a very rude awakening in the short term when hydroxychloroquine or a named branded derivative/concoction with azythromycin(e.g. Percocet) ends up being the go to drug. It is almost there now, they just don't know it because they keep watching the MSM and the lefties. Trump said it and they hate it. It is that simple. God forbid it got American back to work before the Democrats could get the amount of economic damage(and disinformation) they need to even have a chance in the upcoming election.

More and more research is showing not only its efficacy as a form of treatment, but the mechanism by which it is working. The good thing is that even the Democrats can't control this world-wide research. The entire world isn't as interested in getting at Trump at all costs, including dragging their feet with regards to this drug.

No Democrat anywhere is opposing doctors using these drugs if they are effective and recommended as a course of treatment. Widespread approval for distribution will take years of clinical trials, research, and data. But the Trump supporters see the distribution of this drug as their shot from beyond the arc to save Trump's re-election chances. Forgetting at the same time that voters this fall will be judging him on his response to the virus. Which was abysmal.
We do not have years. The virus is here and killing people daily. His response and daily briefings have been excellent and his approval ratings reflect that.

Yeah they do...

Poll: Majority of Americans now disapprove of federal coronavirus efforts, Trump’s handling of crisis
Sigh

Politico is Fake News

Yes, we know. Anything that does not praise your dear leader, your lord and master, is "fake news". Except it's not. It's actual news on the actual mishandling by this faking it administration.

He didn't mishandle anything. Blame your precious bureaucracies for anything you didn't like. He was following their cue.
Yes, he has has pretty much mishandled everything. His only saving grace has been the "deep state bureaucracies". He would be doing much better politically if he would shut up and let the experts do the talking. His rambling, often off topic, diatribes are not helping.
This post shows your bias and illogic. His daily press conferences are must see TV for knowledge as he has Dr. Birx and Dr. Fauci there as well. You have lost all credibility here.

Ive watched a few. I haven’t learned anything. Trump’s participation in them is completely superfluous. He speaks with very little confidence.
Not a surprise. I have learned a lot. Particularly with the new treatments and PPP.

I wouldn’t listen to anything Trump says about treatments. His statements do not reflect the evidence available. When I hear him speak, his rhetoric is all over the map. It has very little internal consistency.
Pretty consistent for me and he 99% of the time defers to Birx and Fauci.
You know how you see a commercial for an over the counter product where they say their product is shown to treat a specific issue and then at the end of the commercial they say “this product is not intended to treat any medical condition”. That’s what I think of when I hear Trump talk.

What those commercials actually say is they are not recommending their product in place of a doctor. Neither is the President. He is not saying you must take it, not saying to buy it off the street, not saying it's a substitute for your doctors advice. All he is saying is that it has shown promising results, and perhaps YOUR doctor should consider it for your treatment in the unfortunate situation you contract this virus.

Trump is dramatically overstating the evidence in support of hydroxychloroquine which he isn’t really qualified to evaluate anyway. In other cases he’s making up evidence whole cloth (zinc).

Those commercials are having it both ways. Saying this probably works but we don’t know if it works. Trump is doing the same thing. People believe Trump when they say it works, there’s evidence, good evidence or promising results.

It’s doublespeak. He’s been doing it for a long time.

You are so wrong on this it isn't even funny. Trump is getting this information from medical professionals. He didn't just happen to mention zinc willy nilly. Zinc plays a role in preventing the replication of several known viruses. That is a well known fact. The combination of it with hydoxychoroquine is very much inline with common medical thought with regards to fighting this. The media is not telling you this because they want you to remained uninformed and couch ridden for obvious reasons.

No. He’s not getting his information solely from medical advisors. He’s getting it from Fox News personalities and other friendly media outlets.

His medical advisors have been consistently contradicting him on the strength of the evidence.

Zinc does not have a role in treating any viral infection. People have been making that claim for decades without any evidence to support it.
He said "I heard Zinc may help, check with your doctor". His press conferences have saved countless lives. Don't dismiss them and I have provided proof.

And he is right, it very well may help. There is an ample amount of evidence that zinc plays a role in virus replication in general.
 

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