Hawking Says Universe Created Itself

[Moonglow]

The big bang in the sense of math breaks down at a certain point that can not be explained by any math.

Where is that?

You claim to know science therefore you are asking a question you should know the answer for.

But then again you are a far left drone that thinks the science is settled!

There is no one equation for the standard BB model of the universe.

It may be better to put it another way: while it is true that when building a theory on another theory, the conclusion of the first theory must be taken as an axiom in the second, but that shouldn't mislead one to be believe that that first theory isn't still a testable scientific theory with evidence of its own to back it up. In addition, the success of the new theory provides evidence to back up the theories its axioms are built from.

But the far left religion will never allow you to consider anything outside your religious dogma.

Nice walk in a circle horseman...If you applied the same formula of babble to the Bible, you wouldn't kneel and beg...

And another far left drone chimes in and proves my comments!

As they are wanting to be the top drone of the month!

I was raised in a church with a scholarly grandmother that was a theologian at heart, since they wouldn't let women be lay persons in the church,,I know all about the fictional and nonfictional accounts in der Bible and that good time religion shared by fire and brimstone yellers...It never moved me so much I felt like donating money to it..Even as a kid..

 

[Windparadox]

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The article, from a "creationist" web site, is commenting on Hawking's book, The Grand Design, in which Hawking postulates; "that invoking God is not necessary to explain the origins of the universe, and that the Big Bang is a consequence of the laws of physics alone.

So, where did those laws of physics come from? Hmmm?

Thanos?

 

[cnm]

You claim to know science therefore you are asking a question you should know the answer for.

Ffs, you unbelievable imbecile, it's your assertion, not mine.

 

[Moonglow]

Most atheists are saying "I see no empirical evidence. Provide it and I'll change my mind".
.

I have repeatedly made very sound, logical arguments and every single atheist here has ignored them or deflected. Atheists demand proof and when given strong evidence, they run and hide. Then they accuse the presenter of believing in sky fairies, etc.

Just saying that a God created the universe because of the dogma presented in a book written thousands of years ago is not proof that God does exist and neither does the best guess of a scholar physicist and his galaxy gang banging theory.....As far as I am concerned neither is probably the best answer...

You're apparently not reading anything I have shared here. Engaging with you on these sorts of topics appears to be a waste of everyone's time and effort. See ya in a non-religious thread.

Do you still post in the porn section?

 

[Kosh]

The big bang in the sense of math breaks down at a certain point that can not be explained by any math.

Where is that?

You claim to know science therefore you are asking a question you should know the answer for.

But then again you are a far left drone that thinks the science is settled!

There is no one equation for the standard BB model of the universe.

It may be better to put it another way: while it is true that when building a theory on another theory, the conclusion of the first theory must be taken as an axiom in the second, but that shouldn't mislead one to be believe that that first theory isn't still a testable scientific theory with evidence of its own to back it up. In addition, the success of the new theory provides evidence to back up the theories its axioms are built from.

But the far left religion will never allow you to consider anything outside your religious dogma.

Nice walk in a circle horseman...If you applied the same formula of babble to the Bible, you wouldn't kneel and beg...

And another far left drone chimes in and proves my comments!

As they are wanting to be the top drone of the month!

I was raised in a church with a scholarly grandmother that was a theologian at heart, since they wouldn't let women be lay persons in the church,,I know all about the fictional and nonfictional accounts in der Bible and that good time religion shared by fire and brimstone yellers...I never moved me so much I felt like donating money to it..Even as a kid..

And the far left religion continues to corrupt everyone it comes in contact with!

The far left continues to prove that they love to run their debunked narratives!

But this one has one mission on this board and that is to be the top drone of the month!

 

[cnm]

I have repeatedly made very sound, logical arguments and every single atheist here has ignored them or deflected.

Rubbish. You've asserted.

 

[RWNJ]

They already know what's going to happen so who cares. It is written. Prophecized. And some even believe the end days are near but it's not pollution it's sin that's doing is in. Damn the science

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Not all Christians believe in creationist concepts. That's the rub. Consider this, there are hundreds of different Christian sects (or calling themselves "Christian") who have hundreds of different beliefs in God and the bible. Many even have their own bibles. Then there are millions of different interpretations of that bible. Many believe that we are in the "end times" now. I don't even try to keep up with that. I simply let them believe what they want. I've no interest in their beliefs nor changing their minds. If someone does not like mine, fine by me.

There is only one Bible. And it is not to be interpreted but understood by using Biblical, historical and cultural context.

 

[Kosh]

You claim to know science therefore you are asking a question you should know the answer for.

Ffs, you unbelievable imbecile, it's your assertion, not mine.

And this far left drone proves my point for me, even after it is explained to them. They just ignore and deny!

So you see it is about the far left religious narrative and nothing else, not even in real science.

 

[Moonglow]

Where is that?

You claim to know science therefore you are asking a question you should know the answer for.

But then again you are a far left drone that thinks the science is settled!

There is no one equation for the standard BB model of the universe.

It may be better to put it another way: while it is true that when building a theory on another theory, the conclusion of the first theory must be taken as an axiom in the second, but that shouldn't mislead one to be believe that that first theory isn't still a testable scientific theory with evidence of its own to back it up. In addition, the success of the new theory provides evidence to back up the theories its axioms are built from.

But the far left religion will never allow you to consider anything outside your religious dogma.

Nice walk in a circle horseman...If you applied the same formula of babble to the Bible, you wouldn't kneel and beg...

And another far left drone chimes in and proves my comments!

As they are wanting to be the top drone of the month!

I was raised in a church with a scholarly grandmother that was a theologian at heart, since they wouldn't let women be lay persons in the church,,I know all about the fictional and nonfictional accounts in der Bible and that good time religion shared by fire and brimstone yellers...I never moved me so much I felt like donating money to it..Even as a kid..

And the far left religion continues to corrupt everyone it comes in contact with!

The far left continues to prove that they love to run their debunked narratives!

But this one has one mission on this board and that is to be the top drone of the month!

Far left religion? Yeah you go with that and next time you can tell us what religion the far right Aryans are...

 

[cnm]

Some things are beyond our comprehension. What is NOT beyond our comprehension is the clear evidence that the universe had a beginning and that the universe was created by someone OUTSIDE of said universe.

There you go, invoking the sky fairy to act as the god of gaps in your knowledge.

 

[Moonglow]

They already know what's going to happen so who cares. It is written. Prophecized. And some even believe the end days are near but it's not pollution it's sin that's doing is in. Damn the science

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Not all Christians believe in creationist concepts. That's the rub. Consider this, there are hundreds of different Christian sects (or calling themselves "Christian") who have hundreds of different beliefs in God and the bible. Many even have their own bibles. Then there are millions of different interpretations of that bible. Many believe that we are in the "end times" now. I don't even try to keep up with that. I simply let them believe what they want. I've no interest in their beliefs nor changing their minds. If someone does not like mine, fine by me.

There is only one Bible. And it is not to be interpreted but understood by using Biblical, historical and cultural context.

Which Bible is that?

 

[Kosh]

I have repeatedly made very sound, logical arguments and every single atheist here has ignored them or deflected.

Rubbish. You've asserted.

And you as a far left drone have yet to offer any alternatives other than to base all your posts on the debunked far left religious dogma. And thus proving you are here to push the far left religious agenda and nothing else!

Got any real science to offer?

 

[cnm]

And this far left drone proves my point for me, even after it is explained to them. They just ignore and deny!

You said the maths broke down. I asked where, you said I should know. Really, how dumb do you have to show yourself?

 

[RWNJ]

I don't know why everyone fawns all over this guy.

Do you have a better theory? It is like the chicken or the egg. God has to come from something too.

The universe was never created.

It had to be created. It couldn't have created itself, and it can't be eternal because if it was there would be no energy left. It would have been used up an eternity ago.

 

[Moonglow]

Most atheists are saying "I see no empirical evidence. Provide it and I'll change my mind".
.

I have repeatedly made very sound, logical arguments and every single atheist here has ignored them or deflected. Atheists demand proof and when given strong evidence, they run and hide. Then they accuse the presenter of believing in sky fairies, etc.

Just saying that a God created the universe because of the dogma presented in a book written thousands of years ago is not proof that God does exist and neither does the best guess of a scholar physicist and his galaxy gang banging theory.....As far as I am concerned neither is probably the best answer...

You're apparently not reading anything I have shared here. Engaging with you on these sorts of topics appears to be a waste of everyone's time and effort. See ya in a non-religious thread.

Did you have some other source for forming the basis of your hypothesis for your thesis OP?

 

[Kosh]

And this far left drone proves my point for me, even after it is explained to them. They just ignore and deny!

You said the maths broke down. I asked where, you said I should know. Really, how dumb do you have to show yourself?

And I did say what is common knowledge on the subject.

If you knew anything about real science you would know.

And I did explain it, you just did not understand the answer.

 

[Moonglow]

I don't know why everyone fawns all over this guy.

Do you have a better theory? It is like the chicken or the egg. God has to come from something too.

The universe was never created.

It had to be created. It couldn't have created itself, and it can't be eternal because if it was there would be no energy left. It would have been used up an eternity ago.

Based on what evidence?

 

[cnm]

And you as a far left drone have yet to offer any alternatives other than to base all your posts on the debunked far left religious dogma. And thus proving you are here to push the far left religious agenda and nothing else!

Anyone translate this?

 

[cnm]

And I did say what is common knowledge on the subject.

I don't know to what you refer. Where does the maths of the BB break down? Educate me.

 

[Eloy]

They already know what's going to happen so who cares. It is written. Prophecized. And some even believe the end days are near but it's not pollution it's sin that's doing is in. Damn the science

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Not all Christians believe in creationist concepts. That's the rub. Consider this, there are hundreds of different Christian sects (or calling themselves "Christian") who have hundreds of different beliefs in God and the bible. Many even have their own bibles. Then there are millions of different interpretations of that bible. Many believe that we are in the "end times" now. I don't even try to keep up with that. I simply let them believe what they want. I've no interest in their beliefs nor changing their minds. If someone does not like mine, fine by me.

It would indeed be a most unorthodox Christian who did not believe that a god created the world.