Go a few replies back the comment was made they do not release copies of the long form. If they do not release copies why keep the long form?
they DO release the long form with special request paperwork from the person birthed....it is a separate legal request, allowed to be made by the person whose name is on the birth certificate for genealogy reasons...I saw the Hawaiian legal form for this....
My birthed state of Alabama does not release the original long form either, unless special request is made....I got a short form birth certificate....computer generated and paid 15 bucks for it from my birthed state....it was missing all kinds of info, like the time I was born....which is why I ordered the BC in the first place....to find out the time I was born....it was not until I got the legal certificate of birth in the mail, that i realized it was NOT the original.
Last I checked the only state that routinely releases the long form is CA, because they do not (or did not at the time, the last credible info I saw was from about 3 years ago) have a short form made up that satisfies State Dept and INS regs or the requirements of Full Faith and Credit.
That may have changed by now, the birth certificate requirements were updated in 1998 so they've had plenty of time to work it out.
I've never seen the "long form" for my children born in Arkansas, the original is kept with the State. It is called a State vital record for a reason and belongs to them. What they hand out is a certification of the material facts on record, the short form.
Whenever I requested a new certified birth certificate from PA for employment or educational purposes, all I ever received was a short form. If there was ever a long form released, my parents must have lost it at some point when I was a kid because I've never seen it. That short form was enough to get me a passport, a couple degrees all at different universities and admitted to the bar in more than one state, no questions asked.
The COLB with the possible exception of those issued in California is all that's needed to verify citizenship for all purposes and is required to be accepted as proof of birth in that State by all sister States under full faith and credit. If that's enough for everybody else, why isn't it enough for the dain bramaged?
Fact is, for the crackpot theories most birfers currently operate under the "long form" birth certificate wouldn't matter anyway. Unless you're, by birfer standards, an old-fashioned PUMA-style purist the current "hot" theories in litigation and the blogosphere would make him ineligible regardless of where he was born. So the whole issue is meaningless anyway, they're just trolling.
