Hawaii again declares Obama birth certificate real

[Roberts_The_Man]

Yup. Because as we all know, items published contemporaneously in a general circulation publication are inadmissable hearsay.
Try again, legal eagle.

They are when Hawaiian law allows for unattended births and those births are submitted to the newspaper off of the vital statistic records.


Newspaper articles can't be crossexamined especially since they come from the same source which may contain inaccurate information ...

They are inaminate ink on inaminate paper.

Try again!

Go ahead, dust off that law degree from Cracker Jack U. for our amusement some more. Please.

Well at least I can debate it based on something that exists in Hawaiian law instead of relying "clever" quips that don't address any part of what I stated.

Try again!

 

[RadiomanATL]

They are when Hawaiian law allows for unattended births and those births are submitted to the newspaper off of the vital statistic records.


Newspaper articles can't be crossexamined especially since they come from the same source which may contain inaccurate information ...

They are inaminate ink on inaminate paper.

Try again!

Go ahead, dust off that law degree from Cracker Jack U. for our amusement some more. Please.

Well at least I can debate it based on something that exists in Hawaiian law instead of relying "clever" quips that don't address any part of what I stated.

Try again!

 

[goldcatt]

Yeah wow!

Try using that on the alleged MCL Havard trained attorney that claims to have "iron clad proof" he is eligible and won't go into court to prove it .

There are claims that he is a constitutional expert and he can't even take that silly piece of paper into court that he claims is his "proof" (AND that all of you claim is .) and just prove he's eligible in a court proceeding instead of relying legal manuvers that in fact do not prove what he claims.

Point the stick towards the real idiot by the name of Barry ...

He's not even smart enough to use the information he should have garnered from a class or two at Harvard to prove in court that he is what he claims he is with that "irrefutable proof" he has on the web.

Why the hell would he stoop to arguing this pile of turds in court on the merits and lend it any legitimacy at all? You really are as stoopid as you sound, aren't you, legal eagle?

Besides, until you find a named plaintiff who can show standing it's all academic, since under Artricle 3 of the Constitution the Federal courts have no jurisdiction without a legitimate case or controversy. Sucks to be you.

Covered in the argument in the form of the statement followed by the question:

IF Barry has the proof he could prove it .

He has used every means possible to keep from proving because he refuses to show up in court ...

Which is where it can actually be legally proven valid and accurate ...

Thus it cannot be verified in cyberspace as a jpeg picture and certainly not backed up by statements from a non-governmental organization that lacks any power to validate anything, like Oopscheck which he went out of his way to ask to them and only them have a look see and take a few more pictures which were converniently stored on the web in the same electronic version, and then of course Hawaiian officials seemingly volating Hawaiian privacy laws to just verbally verify that he was born in Hawaii.

If they're going to violate Hawaiian privacy laws...

Why not just go all the way and produce his long form BC for everyone to see, examine and verify?


IF he can prove it...

Why won't he (Save the to drive the RWer crazy or any other illogical retort for the nonsense it legally and logically is.) ?


Remember that Certification is "iron clad" undeniable proof !

He should just march a copy into every case against him...

It would cost him less than $ 100 to do so, thus certainly allow him to fire his legal team and let them go on to more pressing Dim party issues especially since this issue in a loony non-sensical, non-issue according to him, his press secretary and to you untroofers.


Why?

Why would he?
Obama is the President of the United States, you are a paranoid piece of nasty business. Why should he stoop to formally ackowledging you when you have no grasp of either the law or reality? Bad, bad strategy there, legal eagle. Leave this stuff to the pros.

 

[Roberts_The_Man]

Wow.

Yeah wow!

Try using that on the alleged MCL Havard trained attorney that claims to have "iron clad proof" he is eligible and won't go into court to prove it .

There are claims that he is a constitutional expert and he can't even take that silly piece of paper into court that he claims is his "proof" (AND that all of you claim is .) and just prove he's eligible in a court proceeding instead of relying legal manuvers that in fact do not prove what he claims.

Point the stick towards the real idiot by the name of Barry ...

He's not even smart enough to use the information he should have garnered from a class or two at Harvard to prove in court that he is what he claims he is with that "irrefutable proof" he has on the web.

Why the hell would he stoop to arguing this pile of turds in court on the merits and lend it any legitimacy at all? You really are as stoopid as you sound, aren't you, legal eagle?

Besides, until you find a named plaintiff who can show standing it's all academic, since under Artricle 3 of the Constitution the Federal courts have no jurisdiction without a legitimate case or controversy. Sucks to be you.

So you are with Barry and his legal eagle team in that he has iron clad proof he can't use because it doesn't prove anything so he must resort to legal manuvers instead of actually showing up in court.

Thanks for playing!

Gone from being adament he is eligible to retreat to a defensive position of a now so-so "Let's keep it out of court at all costs" so we don't have to prove it.

Yup that's using your "iron clad proof" like a wet paper sledge hammer to knock down any questions of your eligibility.

Barry the MCL constitutional genius !

 

[RadiomanATL]

Yeah wow!

Try using that on the alleged MCL Havard trained attorney that claims to have "iron clad proof" he is eligible and won't go into court to prove it .

There are claims that he is a constitutional expert and he can't even take that silly piece of paper into court that he claims is his "proof" (AND that all of you claim is .) and just prove he's eligible in a court proceeding instead of relying legal manuvers that in fact do not prove what he claims.

Point the stick towards the real idiot by the name of Barry ...

He's not even smart enough to use the information he should have garnered from a class or two at Harvard to prove in court that he is what he claims he is with that "irrefutable proof" he has on the web.

Why the hell would he stoop to arguing this pile of turds in court on the merits and lend it any legitimacy at all? You really are as stoopid as you sound, aren't you, legal eagle?

Besides, until you find a named plaintiff who can show standing it's all academic, since under Artricle 3 of the Constitution the Federal courts have no jurisdiction without a legitimate case or controversy. Sucks to be you.

So you are with Barry and his legal eagle team in that he has iron clad proof he can't use because it doesn't prove anything so he must resort to legal manuvers instead of actually showing up in court.

Thanks for playing!

Gone from being adament he is eligible to retreat to a defensive position of a now so-so "Let's keep it out of court at all costs" so we don't have to prove it.

Yup that's using your "iron clad proof" like a wet paper sledge hammer to knock down any questions of your eligibility.

Barry the MCL constitutional genius !

 

[Roberts_The_Man]

Why the hell would he stoop to arguing this pile of turds in court on the merits and lend it any legitimacy at all? You really are as stoopid as you sound, aren't you, legal eagle?

Besides, until you find a named plaintiff who can show standing it's all academic, since under Artricle 3 of the Constitution the Federal courts have no jurisdiction without a legitimate case or controversy. Sucks to be you.

Covered in the argument in the form of the statement followed by the question:

IF Barry has the proof he could prove it .

He has used every means possible to keep from proving because he refuses to show up in court ...

Which is where it can actually be legally proven valid and accurate ...

Thus it cannot be verified in cyberspace as a jpeg picture and certainly not backed up by statements from a non-governmental organization that lacks any power to validate anything, like Oopscheck which he went out of his way to ask to them and only them have a look see and take a few more pictures which were converniently stored on the web in the same electronic version, and then of course Hawaiian officials seemingly volating Hawaiian privacy laws to just verbally verify that he was born in Hawaii.

If they're going to violate Hawaiian privacy laws...

Why not just go all the way and produce his long form BC for everyone to see, examine and verify?


IF he can prove it...

Why won't he (Save the to drive the RWer crazy or any other illogical retort for the nonsense it legally and logically is.) ?


Remember that Certification is "iron clad" undeniable proof !

He should just march a copy into every case against him...

It would cost him less than $ 100 to do so, thus certainly allow him to fire his legal team and let them go on to more pressing Dim party issues especially since this issue in a loony non-sensical, non-issue according to him, his press secretary and to you untroofers.


Why?

Why would he?
Obama is the President of the United States, you are a paranoid piece of nasty business. Why should he stoop to formally ackowledging you when you have no grasp of either the law or reality? Bad, bad strategy there, legal eagle. Leave this stuff to the pros.

He's an attorney that has a team of attorneys working in his behalf...

What makes you even think he has to "stoop" ?

At the beer summit he had a guy bring him a beer on a platter...

He didn't even have to "stoop" to get a beer!

Upholding(Thus obeying the constitution.) is his sworn duty and he must be eligible to hold the office... He is supposed to be the servant of the citizens of the US and not the other way around... We live in a constituional republic where the rule of law that eminates up from the people is supreme and we do not have an aristocracy that is above the law..
Thus no one is above it...

Barry can't at his whim and pleasure arrayed in kingly robes ignore the law which states he must be qualified as a NBC to hold the office of POTUS and it doesn't matter if senators and congressmen and women deigned it below their station in life to vett the candidate.

AND most of all it doesn't matter what a bunch of Barry apologists say to me or about me ...

I know because he was born with British citizenship at birth...

He cannot be a US NBC.

AND this lack of NBC status is not dependent on where he was born.

 

[goldcatt]

Yeah wow!

Try using that on the alleged MCL Havard trained attorney that claims to have "iron clad proof" he is eligible and won't go into court to prove it .

There are claims that he is a constitutional expert and he can't even take that silly piece of paper into court that he claims is his "proof" (AND that all of you claim is .) and just prove he's eligible in a court proceeding instead of relying legal manuvers that in fact do not prove what he claims.

Point the stick towards the real idiot by the name of Barry ...

He's not even smart enough to use the information he should have garnered from a class or two at Harvard to prove in court that he is what he claims he is with that "irrefutable proof" he has on the web.

Why the hell would he stoop to arguing this pile of turds in court on the merits and lend it any legitimacy at all? You really are as stoopid as you sound, aren't you, legal eagle?

Besides, until you find a named plaintiff who can show standing it's all academic, since under Artricle 3 of the Constitution the Federal courts have no jurisdiction without a legitimate case or controversy. Sucks to be you.

So you are with Barry and his legal eagle team in that he has iron clad proof he can't use because it doesn't prove anything so he must resort to legal manuvers instead of actually showing up in court.

Thanks for playing!

Gone from being adament he is eligible to retreat to a defensive position of a now so-so "Let's keep it out of court at all costs" so we don't have to prove it.

Yup that's using your "iron clad proof" like a wet paper sledge hammer to knock down any questions of your eligibility.

Barry the MCL constitutional genius !

Impressive strawman there, eagle.

Haven't seen one that obvious in a long, long time. Do they teach that in Cracker Jack U., or did you figure it out all by yourself?

 

[Roberts_The_Man]

Wow.

Yeah wow!

Try using that on the alleged MCL Havard trained attorney that claims to have "iron clad proof" he is eligible and won't go into court to prove it .

There are claims that he is a constitutional expert and he can't even take that silly piece of paper into court that he claims is his "proof" (AND that all of you claim is .) and just prove he's eligible in a court proceeding instead of relying legal manuvers that in fact do not prove what he claims.

Point the stick towards the real idiot by the name of Barry ...

He's not even smart enough to use the information he should have garnered from a class or two at Harvard to prove in court that he is what he claims he is with that "irrefutable proof" he has on the web.

Looks nothing like me...

Must've mixed yourself up in that picture since it's in your care...

It must be your picture!


Ironically this is the similar point in his gestational time when Barry became ineligible.

 

[RadiomanATL]

 

[RadiomanATL]

Yeah wow!

Try using that on the alleged MCL Havard trained attorney that claims to have "iron clad proof" he is eligible and won't go into court to prove it .

There are claims that he is a constitutional expert and he can't even take that silly piece of paper into court that he claims is his "proof" (AND that all of you claim is .) and just prove he's eligible in a court proceeding instead of relying legal manuvers that in fact do not prove what he claims.

Point the stick towards the real idiot by the name of Barry ...

He's not even smart enough to use the information he should have garnered from a class or two at Harvard to prove in court that he is what he claims he is with that "irrefutable proof" he has on the web.

Looks nothing like me...

Must've mixed yourself up in that picture since it's in your care...

It must be your picture!


Ironically this is the similar point in his gestational time when Barry became ineligible.

 

[Roberts_The_Man]

Why the hell would he stoop to arguing this pile of turds in court on the merits and lend it any legitimacy at all? You really are as stoopid as you sound, aren't you, legal eagle?

Besides, until you find a named plaintiff who can show standing it's all academic, since under Artricle 3 of the Constitution the Federal courts have no jurisdiction without a legitimate case or controversy. Sucks to be you.

So you are with Barry and his legal eagle team in that he has iron clad proof he can't use because it doesn't prove anything so he must resort to legal manuvers instead of actually showing up in court.

Thanks for playing!

Gone from being adament he is eligible to retreat to a defensive position of a now so-so "Let's keep it out of court at all costs" so we don't have to prove it.

Yup that's using your "iron clad proof" like a wet paper sledge hammer to knock down any questions of your eligibility.

Barry the MCL constitutional genius !

Impressive strawman there, eagle.

Haven't seen one that obvious in a long, long time. Do they teach that in Cracker Jack U., or did you figure it out all by yourself?

You must've starred on the Wizard of OZ as the scarecrow and not me.

Since I am not the issue but Barry is.

You also all claim the Certification PROVES he is eligible ...

So the requirement for him to show up with it in court is a valid one.

If it's valid there is no need for him to resort to legal manuvers which keep his
dynamite iron clad proof out of court....

For less than $100 he could end it all just by having his legal team present a bunch of certified copies in court...

Which negates the need for him to "stoop" , waddle , dance , etc. into court himself...

That's what he pays his legal defense for!

But still he stalls instead of ending it!

Why?

If he can prove it that Harvard educated MCL genius that is a constitutional expert could do so w/o breaking a sweat...

I await you continued juvenile attempts to detract from the debate instead of engaging in one!

 

[Roberts_The_Man]

Just more deflections?

My oh my you really don't have anything of substance...

What do you do save those up in place of coming up with an actual point?

 

[RadiomanATL]

So you are with Barry and his legal eagle team in that he has iron clad proof he can't use because it doesn't prove anything so he must resort to legal manuvers instead of actually showing up in court.

Thanks for playing!

Gone from being adament he is eligible to retreat to a defensive position of a now so-so "Let's keep it out of court at all costs" so we don't have to prove it.

Yup that's using your "iron clad proof" like a wet paper sledge hammer to knock down any questions of your eligibility.

Barry the MCL constitutional genius !

Impressive strawman there, eagle.

Haven't seen one that obvious in a long, long time. Do they teach that in Cracker Jack U., or did you figure it out all by yourself?

You must've starred on the Wizard of OZ as the scarecrow and not me.

Since I am not the issue but Barry is.

You also all claim the Certification PROVES he is eligible ...

So the requirement for him to show up with it in court is a valid one.

If it's valid there is no need for him to resort to legal manuvers which keep his
dynamite iron clad proof out of court....

For less than $100 he could end it all just by having his legal team present a bunch of certified copies in court...

Which negates the need for him to "stoop" , waddle , dance , etc. into court himself...

That's what he pays his legal defense for!

But still he stalls instead of ending it!

Why?

If he can prove it that Harvard educated MCL genius that is a constitutional expert could do so w/o breaking a sweat...

I await you continued juvenile attempts to detract from the debate instead of engaging in one!

 

[Roberts_The_Man]

Looks nothing like me...

Must've mixed yourself up in that picture since it's in your care...

It must be your picture!


Ironically this is the similar point in his gestational time when Barry became ineligible.

Same same more of the same!

Ho hum!

 

[RadiomanATL]

Just more deflections?

My oh my you really don't have anything of substance...

What do you do save those up in place of coming up with an actual point?

 

[RadiomanATL]

Looks nothing like me...

Must've mixed yourself up in that picture since it's in your care...

It must be your picture!


Ironically this is the similar point in his gestational time when Barry became ineligible.

Same same more of the same!

Ho hum!

 

[DiveCon]

Why the hell would he stoop to arguing this pile of turds in court on the merits and lend it any legitimacy at all? You really are as stoopid as you sound, aren't you, legal eagle?

Besides, until you find a named plaintiff who can show standing it's all academic, since under Artricle 3 of the Constitution the Federal courts have no jurisdiction without a legitimate case or controversy. Sucks to be you.

Covered in the argument in the form of the statement followed by the question:

IF Barry has the proof he could prove it .

He has used every means possible to keep from proving because he refuses to show up in court ...

Which is where it can actually be legally proven valid and accurate ...

Thus it cannot be verified in cyberspace as a jpeg picture and certainly not backed up by statements from a non-governmental organization that lacks any power to validate anything, like Oopscheck which he went out of his way to ask to them and only them have a look see and take a few more pictures which were converniently stored on the web in the same electronic version, and then of course Hawaiian officials seemingly volating Hawaiian privacy laws to just verbally verify that he was born in Hawaii.

If they're going to violate Hawaiian privacy laws...

Why not just go all the way and produce his long form BC for everyone to see, examine and verify?


IF he can prove it...

Why won't he (Save the to drive the RWer crazy or any other illogical retort for the nonsense it legally and logically is.) ?


Remember that Certification is "iron clad" undeniable proof !

He should just march a copy into every case against him...

It would cost him less than $ 100 to do so, thus certainly allow him to fire his legal team and let them go on to more pressing Dim party issues especially since this issue in a loony non-sensical, non-issue according to him, his press secretary and to you untroofers.


Why?

Why would he?
Obama is the President of the United States, you are a paranoid piece of nasty business. Why should he stoop to formally ackowledging you when you have no grasp of either the law or reality? Bad, bad strategy there, legal eagle. Leave this stuff to the pros.

Obama learned how to handle these types by watching Bush
BUsh released every possible document he could to statify the nutters, and they still claimed the exact opposite
so now Obama sees it is a waste of time and he is ignoring them



btw, i call em birfers, kinda like i call the 9/11 nutters troofer
because neither is looking for what they claim to be
the birfers are not really interested in his BC and the troofers are not interested in the truth

 

[Roberts_The_Man]

Impressive strawman there, eagle.

Haven't seen one that obvious in a long, long time. Do they teach that in Cracker Jack U., or did you figure it out all by yourself?

You must've starred on the Wizard of OZ as the scarecrow and not me.

Since I am not the issue but Barry is.

You also all claim the Certification PROVES he is eligible ...

So the requirement for him to show up with it in court is a valid one.

If it's valid there is no need for him to resort to legal manuvers which keep his
dynamite iron clad proof out of court....

For less than $100 he could end it all just by having his legal team present a bunch of certified copies in court...

Which negates the need for him to "stoop" , waddle , dance , etc. into court himself...

That's what he pays his legal defense for!

But still he stalls instead of ending it!

Why?

If he can prove it that Harvard educated MCL genius that is a constitutional expert could do so w/o breaking a sweat...

I await you continued juvenile attempts to detract from the debate instead of engaging in one!

Again just more deflections w/o any attempt at a debate.

Ho hum just more name calling!

Just proves my earlier point that you come to the debate w/o anything to debate.

You really are looking foolish.

If there was actually a point to be made ither than to ridicule you could've have made it by now.

I reaaly must go...

The lack of any semblance of an adult attempt to engage in any kind of meaningful debate has left me bored as hell.

Post some more pictures you are proving the point Barry is actually eligible with every posting!

I have actaully tried but failed to engage anyone on these baords in any kind of meaningful debate.

Sad!

 

[RadiomanATL]

You must've starred on the Wizard of OZ as the scarecrow and not me.

Since I am not the issue but Barry is.

You also all claim the Certification PROVES he is eligible ...

So the requirement for him to show up with it in court is a valid one.

If it's valid there is no need for him to resort to legal manuvers which keep his
dynamite iron clad proof out of court....

For less than $100 he could end it all just by having his legal team present a bunch of certified copies in court...

Which negates the need for him to "stoop" , waddle , dance , etc. into court himself...

That's what he pays his legal defense for!

But still he stalls instead of ending it!

Why?

If he can prove it that Harvard educated MCL genius that is a constitutional expert could do so w/o breaking a sweat...

I await you continued juvenile attempts to detract from the debate instead of engaging in one!

Again just more deflections w/o any attempt at a debate.

Ho hum just more name calling!

Just proves my earlier point that you come to the debate w/o anything to debate.

You really are looking foolish.

If there was actually a point to be made ither than to ridicule you could've have made it by now.

I reaaly must go...

The lack of any semblance of an adult attempt to engage in any kind of meaningful debate has left me bored as hell.

Post some more pictures you are proving the point Barry is actually eligible with every posting!

I have actaully tried but failed to engage anyone on these baords in any kind of meaningful debate.

Sad!

 

[goldcatt]

You must've starred on the Wizard of OZ as the scarecrow and not me.

Since I am not the issue but Barry is.

You also all claim the Certification PROVES he is eligible ...

So the requirement for him to show up with it in court is a valid one.

If it's valid there is no need for him to resort to legal manuvers which keep his
dynamite iron clad proof out of court....

For less than $100 he could end it all just by having his legal team present a bunch of certified copies in court...

Which negates the need for him to "stoop" , waddle , dance , etc. into court himself...

That's what he pays his legal defense for!

But still he stalls instead of ending it!

Why?

If he can prove it that Harvard educated MCL genius that is a constitutional expert could do so w/o breaking a sweat...

I await you continued juvenile attempts to detract from the debate instead of engaging in one!

Again just more deflections w/o any attempt at a debate.

Ho hum just more name calling!

Just proves my earlier point that you come to the debate w/o anything to debate.

You really are looking foolish.

If there was actually a point to be made ither than to ridicule you could've have made it by now.

I reaaly must go...

The lack of any semblance of an adult attempt to engage in any kind of meaningful debate has left me bored as hell.

Post some more pictures you are proving the point Barry is actually eligible with every posting!

I have actaully tried but failed to engage anyone on these baords in any kind of meaningful debate.

Sad!

If this is what you call meaningful debate, you're in serious need of psychoactive medication.