Hate is bad? It is at the Superbowl.

[pknopp]

Save the drama. THe most recent riots were all your guys and it died when Trump left office, so so much for racist police being the cause.

There have been major strides in holding law enforcement accountable.

Dude. That was in the 60s. YOu being silly on purpose?

Human nature hasn't changed.

You thinking opening a discussion by calling half the country a taboo slur, is the way to start a constructive discussion?

I don't recall ever doing that.

You are spending your time on a POLITICAL DISCUSSION FORUM, yet you are rejecting clearly good advice on how to have discussions.

Think about why that is.

I dismiss the advice.

Again, you seem more focused on spamming negs than a real discussion.

It gets old repeating oneself so..............

The courts are not the problem for black people. The breakdown of hte family is.

I mostly pointed out law enforcement in general. Elijah McClain is not dead over a breakdown of the family.

 

[Correll]

There have been major strides in holding law enforcement accountable.

Sure there were. None effecting the power structure of the dem machine cities of course, just really powerfull "strides". lol.

The timing was just a coincidence. Well, GOLL-Y.

Human nature hasn't changed.

Political positions have. And pretending that they have not, is shitting all over a lot of people that fought to do the right thing. EVen by YOUR standards of "right"..


Do you realize you are calling MLK a failure?

I don't recall ever doing that.

Don't play dumb. Calling people racist is one of hte most hateful and taboo slurs in our current culture.

And you know it.

I dismiss the advice.

Clearly. Despite knowing that it is obviously true. So, why did you do that?

It gets old repeating oneself so..............



I mostly pointed out law enforcement in general. Elijah McClain is not dead over a breakdown of the family.

Classic lib. Make a claim about "in general" and then cite a specific isolated incident.

 

[pknopp]

Sure there were. None effecting the power structure of the dem machine

I'm not interested in your simple political rants.

 

[Correll]

I'm not interested in your simple political rants.

Your ignoring the timing of the end of the riots, is you not being interested in reality.


The stated reasons for the violent riots was clearly not the real reason.

 

[pknopp]

Your ignoring the timing of the end of the riots, is you not being interested in reality.

Were some of them political? Likely so. I still supported the reasons behind them.

The stated reasons for the violent riots was clearly not the real reason.

And yet those reasons are being addressed.

 

[Correll]

Were some of them political? Likely so. I still supported the reasons behind them.

Thank you for admitting that "some" of them were political.

These "Strides"? Were they nation wide, or city by city? State by state? It just seems odd that all the riots stopped, instead of just slowing having fewer in the cities that were more agressive with "Defund" or whatever it was, that made it supposedly better.


If the number of riots had declined over time, before and after the election, I would be more open to the idea that they were really about the police.


I have heard no one claim that that is the case, let alone SUPPORT that claim.

And yet those reasons are being addressed.

Addressed? Coming from teh guy that dismisses, generations of civil rights policy by both parties, suddenly you are very impressed by the "Strides" made in policy by the police departments of the nation.

 

[pknopp]

Thank you for admitting that "some" of them were political.

These "Strides"? Were they nation wide, or city by city? State by state? It just seems odd that all the riots stopped, instead of just slowing having fewer in the cities that were more agressive with "Defund" or whatever it was, that made it supposedly better.


If the number of riots had declined over time, before and after the election, I would be more open to the idea that they were really about the police.


I have heard no one claim that that is the case, let alone SUPPORT that claim.





Addressed? Coming from teh guy that dismisses, generations of civil rights policy by both parties, suddenly you are very impressed by the "Strides" made in policy by the police departments of the nation.

More so about the courts. Unfortunately we still have a ways to go with the police departments. I don't care about "both sides". I don't see the world in simple blue/red.

 

[Correll]

More so about the courts. Unfortunately we still have a ways to go with the police departments. I don't care about "both sides". I don't see the world in simple blue/red.

The police departments were all the cops went though lib controlled schools and dem controlled departments and have been run by dem appointed chiefs of police...


yeah, those guys are the problem, not the breakdown of the black family.


Fathers? Who needs them?

 

[pknopp]

The police departments were all the cops went though lib controlled schools and dem controlled departments and have been run by dem appointed chiefs of police...

No, I'd say it was an issue that was pretty widespread.

yeah, those guys are the problem, not the breakdown of the black family.


Fathers? Who needs them?

Rant noted and dismissed.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

No, I'd say it was an issue that was pretty widespread.



Rant noted and dismissed.

Nobody cares

 

[Correll]

No, I'd say it was an issue that was pretty widespread.



Rant noted and dismissed.

It's not a rant. It's pointing out two serious flaws with your position on this issue.


1. You are ignoring the actual people you are throwing under the bus, and the fact that they are not all refugees from the 1950s jim crow south, but instead citizens of the very racially progressive modern day America.


2. That there is a far more likely cause of the issues you see, ie the break down of the black familiy.

 

[pknopp]

It's not a rant. It's pointing out two serious flaws with your position on this issue.


1. You are ignoring the actual people you are throwing under the bus, and the fact that they are not all refugees from the 1950s jim crow south, but instead citizens of the very racially progressive modern day America.


2. That there is a far more likely cause of the issues you see, ie the break down of the black familiy.

Elijah McClain is not dead because of a break down of the family.

 

[Correll]

Elijah McClain is not dead because of a break down of the family.

And again you ignore everything I said.

Fine. ALl you want to talk about is your cherry picked example. So let's discuss that.


Did he have a father?

 

[pknopp]

And again you ignore everything I said.

Fine. ALl you want to talk about is your cherry picked example. So let's discuss that.


Did he have a father?

Irrelevant. He could have had no parents and none of it would have made any difference. The cops was called because he was a young black man that someone didn't like how he walked home.

The cops jumped him because he simply wanted to continue walking home.

But you support my position by even asking.

 

[Correll]

Irrelevant. He could have had no parents and none of it would have made any difference. The cops was called because he was a young black man that someone didn't like how he walked home.

The cops jumped him because he simply wanted to continue walking home.

But you support my position by even asking.

My asking about his father supports your claim of racism?

EXPLAIN.

 

[pknopp]

My asking about his father supports your claim of racism?

EXPLAIN.

Whether he did or not is irrelevant but you continue down that road. You are unwilling to condemn the reason he is dead and want to create some strawman.

 

[Lisa558]

I never experienced racism.

The ironic thing is that many of the same leftists crying about racism are simultaneously spewing antisemitic venom against Jews.

 

[Lisa558]

Whether he did or not is irrelevant but you continue down that road. You are unwilling to condemn the reason he is dead and want to create some strawman.

Same thing happens to Whites. Why was more made of the George Floyd incident - with leftists using it to launch violent riots for months on end, resulting in 30 murders and $2 billion in damage - than the White young man in the hotel hallway, gunned down by cops? Nobody even knows the White guy’s name, and yet we had statues and moments of silence and a funeral fit for a head of state for the violent ex-con because he’s black?

 

[pknopp]

Same thing happens to Whites.

But not to the extent that it did to minorities.

People didn't just brush it off when it was a minority either.

DUI MILLIONAIRE GETS WRIST-SLAP

Why was more made of the George Floyd incident - with leftists using it to launch violent riots for months on end, resulting in 30 murders and $2 billion in damage - than the White young man in the hotel hallway, gunned down by cops?

There was a lot made out there and I might ask those who see that as an issue (it absolutely was,) why they didn't protest far more.

The difference in the end was the minority communities had experienced things like this for decades. When it happened the cops lied and no one believed the person harmed. When it finally came to light because of the ability to film it people still defended the cops, largely because they were beating and killing minorities.

And for the record.

‘You’re Fucked’: The Acquittal of Officer Brailsford and the Crisis of Police Impunity | ACLU

The cop should have spent the rest of his life in prison.

Some said "enough" and that bothers you.

Nobody even knows the White guy’s name, and yet we had statues and moments of silence and a funeral fit for a head of state for the violent ex-con because he’s black?

And yet they do. I knew exactly what you were talking about but it's the ACLU defending him and well, you can't side with that.

 

[Correll]

Whether he did or not is irrelevant but you continue down that road. You are unwilling to condemn the reason he is dead and want to create some strawman.

The guy was walking along the street dancing by himself. That is weird behavior. His own family said he was an "oddball" and "fiercely independent".

That sounds to me like code for "weirdo" who might not act right, when confronted by authority.

And the lack of a father, to teach him to behave normally, is certainly thus relevant.