Has trump effectively removed any moral standards required to serve the people?

[BackAgain]

Then don't get one. Nobody is forcing you or making the decision for you.

That’s quite illogical.

If abortion IS “murder” then it doesn’t matter if a male can’t get pregnant and thus can’t get an abortion.

What matters is the human life getting snuffed out — often for a matter of mere convenience.

A genuine and logical rebuttal to the argument that “abortion is murder” would have to address the actual question of whether it is or isn’t “murder;” not whether a biological male is unable of ever being pregnant.

 

[yidnar]

That explains nothing with respect to trump making unqualified choices for his cabinet.

lol ! you just don't get it do you .. it really doesn't matter if Gaetz is confirmed or not confirmed .. Trump is the POTUS for the next 4 yrs .. and he learned a lesson about picking DC insiders during his last admin .. so even if Gaetz isn't confirmed Trump will appoint another fire brand to the position that will stand up to the DC swamp ..

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

Meh, that ship sailed with Bubba Clinton.

You believe serving the people ended with Clinton?

 

[yidnar]

Then don't get one. Nobody is forcing you or making the decision for you.

voting for a party that fights for abortion on demand is aiding and abetting .. so please take your morality argument elsewhere .

 

[Blisterfinger]

I have no doubt you believe that cuz..........how can you not? If you admitted it's a lie you'd have to admit trump stuck his finger up a woman's vagina against her will, and voted for him anyway.

Yeah that is pretty much unbelievable.

 

[yidnar]

Then don't get one. Nobody is forcing you or making the decision for you.

lol ! i'm a man! unlike your party I have enough common sense to know that men cant get pregnant ..

In denial: Democrats say men can give birth and kill their babies - Washington Examiner

The latest delusional Democrat appeared before the House Judiciary Committee's hearing on abortion on Wednesday and made the oft-repeated yet utterly ridiculous claim that men can have babies. Aimee Arrambide, the executive director of the infant genocide advocacy group known as Avow Texas, told...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

 

[White 6]

That’s quite illogical.

If abortion IS “murder” then it doesn’t matter if a male can’t get pregnant and thus can’t get an abortion.

What matters is the human life getting snuffed out — often for a matter of mere convenience.

A genuine and logical rebuttal to the argument that “abortion is murder” would have to address the actual question of whether it is or isn’t “murder;” not whether a biological male is unable of ever being pregnant.

Why would I want to bogged down on that? What biologic male? It was some anonymous person on the internet, or a chatbot. You go fight the battle.

 

[White 6]

lol ! i'm a man! unlike your party I have enough common sense to know that men cant get pregnant ..

In denial: Democrats say men can give birth and kill their babies - Washington Examiner

The latest delusional Democrat appeared before the House Judiciary Committee's hearing on abortion on Wednesday and made the oft-repeated yet utterly ridiculous claim that men can have babies. Aimee Arrambide, the executive director of the infant genocide advocacy group known as Avow Texas, told...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

You look like a bird catching a fish.

 

[BackAgain]

Why would I want to bogged down on that? What biologic male? It was some anonymous person on the internet, or a chatbot. You go fight the battle.

You miss the point.

The point remains, that your argument is illogical.

It makes no difference in logic to challenge the assertion that “abortion is murder” for you to note that only biological females can get pregnant.

We know that. But it doesn’t address the question: “IS abortion murder or is it not?”

Your argument is silly.

Claim: “All men are mortal. “

Your reply: “but some turtles have lived for 250 years!”

Your reply has a truth value of “T.” It is true that some turtles or tortoises have lived that long. But it doesn’t have any bearing on the original claim.

 

[White 6]

You miss the point.

The point remains, that your argument is illogical.

It makes no difference in logic to challenge the assertion that “abortion is murder” for you to note that only biological females can get pregnant.

We know that. But it doesn’t address the question: “IS abortion murder or is it not?”

Your argument is silly.

Claim: “All men are mortal. “

Your reply: “but some turtles have lived for 250 years!”

Your reply has a truth value of “T.” It is true that some turtles or tortoises have lived that long. But it doesn’t have any bearing on the original claim.

Go research Leonard Nemoy.
Your issue. You fight it.

 

[struth]

Woman told House Ethics Committee she saw Gaetz have sex with minor, her lawyer says​

A woman told the House Ethics Committee that she saw Matt Gaetz, who is President-elect Donald Trump’s pick for the U.S. attorney general, have sex with a minor, her lawyer said Friday.

“My client testified to the House Ethics Committee that she witnessed Rep. Gaetz having sex with a minor at a house party in Orlando in 2017,” Joel Leppard said.

Gaetz, a far-right Republican U.S. representative, resigned from Congress on Wednesday after Trump announced plans to nominate him for attorney general, has denied all allegations of sexual misconduct.

Leppard said the woman he represents testified before the House Ethics Committee in April.

He said he represents two witnesses who have provided testimony to the committee regarding Gaetz.

“The American people deserve to know the truth about the person slated to become the top law enforcement officer in the country” Leppard told NBC News.

Woman told House Ethics Committee she saw Gaetz have sex with minor, her lawyer says

Matt Gaetz is president-elect Donald Trump's choice to become U.S. attorney general.

www.nbcnews.com

Reagan broke the unspoken prohibition of a divorcee running for the presidency. Since then trump has shattered any semblance of it. He stole money from a charity, is a convicted criminal, is twice criminally indicted, twice impeached, a two time divorcee, a 26 time recipient of sexual abuse allegations, was found financially accountable for sexual abuse (rape by federal statute), stiffed investors in his casino biz, and was sued dozens of times for failing to pay money he owed to small contractors. He can fairly be described as morally bankrupt.

So here's my question.

If this testimony is accurate...“My client testified to the House Ethics Committee that she witnessed Rep. Gaetz having sex with a minor at a house party in Orlando in 2017,”.........does it matter to the Repubs who voted for trump that the potential future AG had sex with a minor? Are traditional moral standards a thing of the past if the politician in question is in your tribe?

Are these the same women that Xiden’s DOJ found completely incredible and decided not to charge blackmail victim Gaetz?

 

[Independent thinker]

Woman told House Ethics Committee she saw Gaetz have sex with minor, her lawyer says​

A woman told the House Ethics Committee that she saw Matt Gaetz, who is President-elect Donald Trump’s pick for the U.S. attorney general, have sex with a minor, her lawyer said Friday.

“My client testified to the House Ethics Committee that she witnessed Rep. Gaetz having sex with a minor at a house party in Orlando in 2017,” Joel Leppard said.

Gaetz, a far-right Republican U.S. representative, resigned from Congress on Wednesday after Trump announced plans to nominate him for attorney general, has denied all allegations of sexual misconduct.

Leppard said the woman he represents testified before the House Ethics Committee in April.

He said he represents two witnesses who have provided testimony to the committee regarding Gaetz.

“The American people deserve to know the truth about the person slated to become the top law enforcement officer in the country” Leppard told NBC News.

Woman told House Ethics Committee she saw Gaetz have sex with minor, her lawyer says

Matt Gaetz is president-elect Donald Trump's choice to become U.S. attorney general.

www.nbcnews.com

Reagan broke the unspoken prohibition of a divorcee running for the presidency. Since then trump has shattered any semblance of it. He stole money from a charity, is a convicted criminal, is twice criminally indicted, twice impeached, a two time divorcee, a 26 time recipient of sexual abuse allegations, was found financially accountable for sexual abuse (rape by federal statute), stiffed investors in his casino biz, and was sued dozens of times for failing to pay money he owed to small contractors. He can fairly be described as morally bankrupt.

So here's my question.

If this testimony is accurate...“My client testified to the House Ethics Committee that she witnessed Rep. Gaetz having sex with a minor at a house party in Orlando in 2017,”.........does it matter to the Repubs who voted for trump that the potential future AG had sex with a minor? Are traditional moral standards a thing of the past if the politician in question is in your tribe?

In case you forgot, we live in a democracy where people vote for their leaders. Voters decide the reasons they want to vote for someone. Democrats have forgotten that over the last several years and one reason why they got trounced. Voters are tired of Democrats telling them who they should vote for and the reasons.

By the way, exit polling showed that out of the voters who ranked saving democracy as their number one issue, 60% voted for Trump and only 40% voted for Harris. You might want to think on that a little without trying to explain it away or spin it.

 

[OldFlame]

I don't care. Continual forgiveness is a failing. Churches used to shun people running for office that were of low moral character. Now, they either forgive based on politics or do not want to know. Which one are you?

You just displayed that you know nothing about Christianity. Can't say I'm surprised, you know nothing about pretty much every topic discussed on here.

And what people running for political office has to do with churches and Christ's forgiveness is beyond me.

Do you think every D politician will be forgiven for their support of abortion, killing unborn children? Guess they're all doomed to hell according to you.

 

[OldFlame]

You miss the point.

The point remains, that your argument is illogical.

It makes no difference in logic to challenge the assertion that “abortion is murder” for you to note that only biological females can get pregnant.

We know that. But it doesn’t address the question: “IS abortion murder or is it not?”

Your argument is silly.

Claim: “All men are mortal. “

Your reply: “but some turtles have lived for 250 years!”

Your reply has a truth value of “T.” It is true that some turtles or tortoises have lived that long. But it doesn’t have any bearing on the original claim.

He's truly an idiot, incapable of logical thinking.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

How much did the DNC pay her for her testimony?

 

[berg80]

Are these the same women that Xiden’s DOJ found completely incredible and decided not to charge blackmail victim Gaetz?

Federal investigators have established a web of payments among Matt Gaetz and dozens of friends and associates who are said to have taken part with him in drug-fueled sex parties, according to a document obtained by The New York Times.

Among those who received money from Mr. Gaetz were two women who have testified that he hired them for sex, according to the document and a lawyer for the two women. The lawyer said payments to the women ultimately totaled around $10,000.

The document obtained by The Times was assembled by federal investigators during a sex-trafficking investigation into Mr. Gaetz, who is President-elect Donald J. Trump’s choice for attorney general. It shows how Mr. Gaetz and a friend sent thousands of dollars through Venmo to dozens of people who, according to testimony that is said to have been given to federal and congressional investigators, were involved in sex parties from 2017 to 2020.

Federal Inquiry Traced Payments From Gaetz to Women

A document prepared by federal investigators bolsters claims by women who say they were hired for sex by Matt Gaetz, President-elect Donald J. Trump’s choice for attorney general, who denies wrongdoing.

www.nytimes.com

One of the women Gaetz had sex with testified she wasn't sure if he knew a 17 year old he paid to have sex with was under 18. Things like that may have stopped him from being prosecuted. But he wasn't "cleared."

Even if you remove the sex trafficking and drug use from consideration Gaetz still isn't qualified to be AG due to his complete lack of experience as a practicing lawyer.

 

[OldFlame]

Federal investigators have established a web of payments among Matt Gaetz and dozens of friends and associates who are said to have taken part with him in drug-fueled sex parties, according to a document obtained by The New York Times.

Among those who received money from Mr. Gaetz were two women who have testified that he hired them for sex, according to the document and a lawyer for the two women. The lawyer said payments to the women ultimately totaled around $10,000.

The document obtained by The Times was assembled by federal investigators during a sex-trafficking investigation into Mr. Gaetz, who is President-elect Donald J. Trump’s choice for attorney general. It shows how Mr. Gaetz and a friend sent thousands of dollars through Venmo to dozens of people who, according to testimony that is said to have been given to federal and congressional investigators, were involved in sex parties from 2017 to 2020.

Federal Inquiry Traced Payments From Gaetz to Women

A document prepared by federal investigators bolsters claims by women who say they were hired for sex by Matt Gaetz, President-elect Donald J. Trump’s choice for attorney general, who denies wrongdoing.

www.nytimes.com

One of the women Gaetz had sex with testified she wasn't sure if he knew a 17 year old he paid to have sex with was under 18. Things like that may have stopped him from being prosecuted. But he wasn't "cleared."

Even if you remove the sex trafficking and drug use from consideration Gaetz still isn't qualified to be AG due to his complete lack of experience as a practicing lawyer.

What did the federal investigators find?

 

[berg80]

In case you forgot, we live in a democracy where people vote for their leaders. Voters decide the reasons they want to vote for someone. Democrats have forgotten that over the last several years and one reason why they got trounced. Voters are tired of Democrats telling them who they should vote for and the reasons.

By the way, exit polling showed that out of the voters who ranked saving democracy as their number one issue, 60% voted for Trump and only 40% voted for Harris. You might want to think on that a little without trying to explain it away or spin it.

A diagram obtained by The New York Times shows how federal investigators mapped out payments between Mr. Gaetz, his associates and women. The Times has redacted the names and images of most of the individuals who were originally included.

 

[hadit]

Are Clinton's extra marital affairs an equivalence to this?

He stole money from a charity, is a convicted criminal, is twice criminally indicted, twice impeached, a two time divorcee, a 26 time recipient of sexual abuse allegations, was found financially accountable for sexual abuse (rape by federal statute), stiffed investors in his casino biz, fucked a porn star and paid her for her silence weeks before the 2016 election, and was sued dozens of times for failing to pay money he owed to small contractors.

And don't forget, won the presidency twice despite the foot stomping and the breath holding.

 

[jc456]

You made my point. Hope you enjoyed services last Sunday and did not snore.

I don't do church. So your point is mute