Zone1 Has the 'devil come down' in Minnesota?

[buttercup]

Good God, this woman is an idiot
The problem is Democrat/commies following and harassing and interfering with federal agents doing their damn job.

Again, you missed the point by 100 miles. You probably didn't even watch the whole thing. But again, not interested in talking to you about this. You don't seem able to think in any way other than how you're manipulated to think. You see only part of it, not the bigger picture, which is what they were talking about in the video.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Proud to say I'm not "United" with insane Democrats. Proud of THIS "division"

 

[frigidweirdo]

America is the bastion of freedom in the world, surely an important target of Satan. Has the devil finally 'come down having great wrath' at this time? Current events threaten to fracture the nation as never before. Divide and conquer is the devil's favorite tactic. Can America withstand this assault, or are we facing the tribulation?

Just like every other empire, greed will topple them.

The US is no different.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Just like every other empire, greed will topple them.

The US is no different.

Rome was toppled by INVADERS.
South Africa was toppled by INVADERS
Empires die when the People become lazy and believe work is beneath them. So they import the cheap labor that eventually destroys them

Democrats import slave labor

 

[MostBoringManInTheWorld]

Wow, you completely misunderstood, and as always you assume the absolute worst. You really seem incapable of thinking outside of that ignorant, duped, hyperpartisan box that the government and media want you to stay stuck in.

But since you came at me with so much anger and accusation, I'm not even interested in talking to you about this. I was talking to Woodnutz, not you.

That's all they got.

 

[buttercup]

That's all they got.

I don't really see it that way, because that's just more of the same "team sports politics" mindset that frankly I am sick to death of. In fact, I think too many Americans stuck in the two party illusion is one of the biggest things destroying this country. And that's by design. You might disagree (most here do) but as I've said a guh-zillion times, the powers-that-shouldn't-be control both sides and continually play both sides against each other. They WANT the nonstop hate, anger and deep division... and they want the civil unrest and violence.

It's classic Divide and Conquer, which is what I was talking about earlier, in response to Woodnutz' comment "Divide and conquer is the devil's favorite tactic"...a point which completely flew over Carl's head.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

in response to Woodnutz' comment "Divide and conquer is the devil's favorite tactic"...a point which completely flew over Carl's head

The not so subtle insults whenever someone doesn't buy into your mysterious "they " controlling all our actions
Exhibit A

Thats not how this world works. You make CHOICES. The anarchists made theirs. You're not being "controlled." You have free will. I want to see them driven into the ground. That's mine

You think you're preaching a new thing none of us ever heard before. You're not. I've been listening to this "stuff" since the early 70s. Nothing's changed.

You're one step away from blaming everything on "the Jews.". It ALWAYS leads to that. I believe you're there, but you're afraid to come out and join EHM or whatever he goes by

 

[BreezeWood]

Democrats import slave labor

fact is this country is built honorably by the new waves of immigrants legal or otherwise throughout the very beginning history to the near present time encouraged by both sides of the political spectrum's and working establishments that have used them -

it's a disservice of the religious right to use military force for their selfish purposes they have created to insure an unwelcome presence they force others to have to recognize.

 

[MisterBeale]

Good God, this woman is an idiot
The problem is Democrat/commies following and harassing and interfering with federal agents doing their damn job.

Both points of view can be true Carl.

Yes, this woman is an idiot, and she was protesting ICE, which American citizens have a right to. Yet, she was protesting in a clearly unsafe manner, and when she was told to stop and get out of the car, she reversed it and drove toward him, giving the agent the excuse he wanted.

Buttercup is absolutely correct, the left gatekeepers, and right gatekeepers are setting up an Hegelian dialectic to justify a domestic police force, or at least to normalize that type of action by the feds, and that is extremely troubling.

 

[MisterBeale]

I wasn't sure where to post this... so I guess I'll put it here. This talk is definitely worth listening to. (I don't necessarily agree with every single thing they said, but overall I agree with their take... and they bring up a number of really good points.)

Brilliant video, everyone should watch.

The Conservative Christian Case Against ICE (Derrick Broze on The Shannon Joy Show)​

Streamed live 22 hours ago
"On January 13th, journalist Derrick Broze appeared on The Shannon Joy Show to discuss the recent actions by ICE and Trump's militarization of American streets.

Shannon shares her perspective as a conservative Christian while Derrick objects to the actions on civil liberties grounds. "The illegal, unconstitutional, ICE brutality unleashed in Minnesota is coming to city near you!

The insane statements were made on Steve Bannon’s War Room by so called ‘conservative’ and Rasmussen pollster Mark Mitchell and indicate how far the American right has fallen towards full-scale lawlessness and fascism in the name of owning the left. His statement was celebrated by the new right with Grace Chong tweeting ‘That’s the opening for Trump. Between now and November, surge the cities”.

Meanwhile, Kristi Noem announces new drone surveillance plans, all in the name of keeping Americans ‘safe’."

 

[Woodznutz]

fact is this country is built honorably by the new waves of immigrants legal or otherwise throughout the very beginning history to the near present time encouraged by both sides of the political spectrum's and working establishments that have used them -

it's a disservice of the religious right to use military force for their selfish purposes they have created to insure an unwelcome presence they force others to have to recognize.

The purpose immigration isn't to save refugees from oppression and hard times in their countries but to enrich and strengthen America. Immigrants of all types siphon nearly a $Trillion from the domestic economy each year through remittances. How does that help America?

It's no secret that some remittance money is paid to human smugglers. In what universe does this make any sense.

 

[leftwinger]

We have found the devil. It is them.



This is why ICE is forced to act in self defense. A car is a weapon. Why should they play didgeball on ICE no pun intended.

 

[BreezeWood]

Hegelian dialectic

ok

Hegelian dialectic is a philosophical method describing the evolution of ideas and history through inherent contradictions.

immigration is sortof out of control - people just do not have thick enough skin to understand its benefits for all concerned is a concern for their true religious bearing.

 

[Woodznutz]

ok



immigration is sortof out of control - people just do not have thick enough skin to understand its benefits for all concerned is a concern for their true religious bearing.

How does the church benefit from mass immigration of the heathen and the pagan?

 

[MisterBeale]

immigration is sortof out of control

That has been intentional.

people just do not have thick enough skin to understand its benefits

Or folks need to be smart enough to understand why this is all happening.

First the establishment flew in these illegals to the heartland under the cover of night.

Second, the establishment made the argument that among them were dangerous criminals that needed to be dealt with.

Eventually, they will have folks on both the left and the right begging the STATE for a digital ID, CBDCs, and complete control of their lives to "solve," this purposely manufactured problem.

 

[buttercup]

The not so subtle insults whenever someone doesn't buy into your mysterious "they " controlling all our actions
Exhibit A
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Thats not how this world works. You make CHOICES. The anarchists made theirs. You're not being "controlled." You have free will. I want to see them driven into the ground. That's mine

You think you're preaching a new thing none of us ever heard before. You're not. I've been listening to this "stuff" since the early 70s. Nothing's changed.

You're one step away from blaming everything on "the Jews.". It ALWAYS leads to that. I believe you're there, but you're afraid to come out and join EHM or whatever he goes by

Read your own posts, Carl. First you barge into a discussion with an angry ugly loaded question, completely missing what I was actually saying, then you call people idiots (the woman in the video, Shannon Joy, without even watching the whole video or understanding their position)... then you continue to post in an angry, emotional way.... and all that is OK, but I'm the bad guy because you don't like the meme I posted? The meme is correct. You are continually being manipulated. Both sides are. If you disagree, that's fine, but that is what is happening, and what has been happening...as MisterBeale also stated.

But I probably shouldn't have replied to you just now, because I already said to you TWICE (in posts 20 and 21) that I'm not interested in going further with this, but you ignored that completely.... continuing to be aggressive and accusatory. So once again, and for the last time, I'm not going to go any further with you on this. We disagree about what is going on, and that's OK. The end.

 

[buttercup]

That has been intentional.

Or folks need to be smart enough to understand why this is all happening.

First the establishment flew in these illegals to the heartland under the cover of night.

Second, the establishment made the argument that among them were dangerous criminals that needed to be dealt with.

Eventually, they will have folks on both the left and the right begging the STATE for a digital ID, CBDCs, and complete control of their lives to "solve," this purposely manufactured problem.

Very well stated. It is absolutely amazing to me that considering how often the Problem - Reaction - Solution tactic is used, many Americans STILL don't see it. I've said this before but I'll say it again... I think tribalism and extreme partisan loyalty causes a sort of blindness in people. That's why I posted a thread on the topic of tribalism, because I can see almost on a daily basis how it blinds people, at the expense of truth and seeing the bigger picture.

 

[BreezeWood]

at the expense of truth and seeing the bigger picture.

until recent political hacks, immigration, irish - chinese - italians - jews - polish - et al ... is as american as apple pie.

* the south of the boarder crowd is something new where their numbers were beginning to overwhelm the order, just would be better to regain control without crediting zealots that are as guilty as everyone else.

 

[MisterBeale]

until recent political hacks, immigration, irish - chinese - italians - jews - polish - et al ... is as american as apple pie.

Serious question.

Why do folks, when they are making these sort of arguments, always compare legal vetted immigration to open borders to let in anyone that comes and claims that they have to be here?

 

[ding]

Serious question.

Why do folks, when they are making these sort of arguments, always compare legal vetted immigration to open borders to let in anyone that comes and claims that they have to be here?

Bias