Harris says Trump ran Obama's economy into the ground

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Do you think that many Voters will buy that Trump ran Obama's economy into the ground?
How can the Dems make Trump responsible for the Pandemic Recession whilst they demand that businesses schools and churches remain closed?

Actually it took a pandemic to bring the unemployment and economy to Obamas level, so she's risking people realizing that funny fact and or being insulted while losing all credibility, not that she had any to start.
 

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The left are imbeciles. The pandemic has caused a world-wide economic disaster. That was NOT Trump's fault. Prior to the pandemic, the economy was in Goldie Lox territory. Too much CNN and MSNBC has fried some brains.
US used to have the best teams on the ground worldwide getting prepared for this type of event. The Obama team even spend a day workshopping the Trump team on the readiness and response plan for an epidemic.

Trump cut the teams abroad, ignored the pandemic until it was far too late.

Trump failed in his leadership...
Actually Ted...Obama left the cupboard bare after the Swine Flu pandemic! We went through most of our stockpiled PPE's and they were never replaced. That isn't on Trump...that's on Obama as well! Trump isn't the one who sat back and watched China take more and more of our manufacturing business either...that was Barry! One of the reasons we had such a hard time responding to the pandemic is that what we needed to respond to it wasn't made in the US anymore! In case you haven't noticed...Trump has pushed legislation correcting that issue. THAT is leadership! Actions instead of rhetoric.
Seriously, you have to stop just listening to first thing you like and then agreeing with it...


Bu the main thing is Obama gave Trump a warning system and readiness plan... Ordering N95 masks was on that plan... Trump ignored what the plans in place...

Trump screwed this up and all the deflection in the world can't ignore the blatant facts of him ignoring and actively discouraging any prperation.

Trump failed as a leader... His supporters cling on to anything he did which might look like he tried to protect the US people.

But let's say it straight,
Did Trump do everything possible to defend the American People?

Everything? No and very far from it... Where was a National Plan, War Protection Act, sound consistent advice, .....?
Oh, is that how it works, Ted? Your administration uses all of the N95 masks early on and then doesn't replace them despite being in office for YEARS but then on the way out the door you leave a note telling the next guy "Sorry dude...I used all the N95 masks and didn't replace them. You need to buy some!"
As I said before...Obama owns part of the blame for this as well!
You mean the ones he applied to Congress to replace but were refused by GOP:

But Obama put in place enough warning system to easily replace before needed... Trump just did nothing...
Your article appears to contradict what you're claiming, Ted! It states that a large amount of funds WAS approved. So why was the stockpile not restocked? What did the Obama Administration do with the funds that Congress allocated?
 

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The left are imbeciles. The pandemic has caused a world-wide economic disaster. That was NOT Trump's fault. Prior to the pandemic, the economy was in Goldie Lox territory. Too much CNN and MSNBC has fried some brains.
US used to have the best teams on the ground worldwide getting prepared for this type of event. The Obama team even spend a day workshopping the Trump team on the readiness and response plan for an epidemic.

Trump cut the teams abroad, ignored the pandemic until it was far too late.

Trump failed in his leadership...
Actually Ted...Obama left the cupboard bare after the Swine Flu pandemic! We went through most of our stockpiled PPE's and they were never replaced. That isn't on Trump...that's on Obama as well! Trump isn't the one who sat back and watched China take more and more of our manufacturing business either...that was Barry! One of the reasons we had such a hard time responding to the pandemic is that what we needed to respond to it wasn't made in the US anymore! In case you haven't noticed...Trump has pushed legislation correcting that issue. THAT is leadership! Actions instead of rhetoric.
Seriously, you have to stop just listening to first thing you like and then agreeing with it...


Bu the main thing is Obama gave Trump a warning system and readiness plan... Ordering N95 masks was on that plan... Trump ignored what the plans in place...

Trump screwed this up and all the deflection in the world can't ignore the blatant facts of him ignoring and actively discouraging any prperation.

Trump failed as a leader... His supporters cling on to anything he did which might look like he tried to protect the US people.

But let's say it straight,
Did Trump do everything possible to defend the American People?

Everything? No and very far from it... Where was a National Plan, War Protection Act, sound consistent advice, .....?
Oh, is that how it works, Ted? Your administration uses all of the N95 masks early on and then doesn't replace them despite being in office for YEARS but then on the way out the door you leave a note telling the next guy "Sorry dude...I used all the N95 masks and didn't replace them. You need to buy some!"
As I said before...Obama owns part of the blame for this as well!
You mean the ones he applied to Congress to replace but were refused by GOP:

But Obama put in place enough warning system to easily replace before needed... Trump just did nothing...
How pray tell do you replace what was needed when you A) don't have any idea of the severity of what was about to occur and B) you don't control the production of the materials that you needed once it became apparent that this virus was going to be much worse than the Chinese had led the world to believe! What "warning system" are you referring to and why didn't it warn us?
 

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Barack Obama, first president of the United States to spend more on “means-tested entitlements”—AKA welfare—than on national defense.

Obama Was First President to Spend More on Welfare Than Defense
Your link:

"But in fiscal 2015, total national defense spending declined to $589,965,000,000 while means-tested entitlement spending climbed to $666,900,000,000.

"Thus, fiscal 2015 became the first year that means-tested entitlement spending—welfare spending--exceeded national defense spending."

Why do you think killing, maiming, and displacing millions of innocent human beings on the opposite side of the planet deserves more tax payer support than providing help to needy persons unable to care for themselves in this country?
 

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What I find amusing is how Barack Obama came out against carbon based fuels and did everything in his power to knee cap the industries that produce them
What did Obama do to "knee cap" fossil fuel production?
Are you being deliberately obtuse or do you really not know anything about this, GP?
 

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Are you being deliberately obtuse or do you really not know anything about this, GP?
You didn't answer the question "what did Obama do to knee cap fossil fuel production'?

https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article24754855.html

"Obama praises natural gas from fracking for economic and environmental benefits. The fracking boom led to cheap U.S. natural gas. As a result, utilities are switching to it from the more polluting coal.

"'We should strengthen our position as the top natural gas producer because, in the medium term at least, it not only can provide safe, cheap power, but it can also help reduce our carbon emissions'” Obama said in his recent climate change speech."
 

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Are you being deliberately obtuse or do you really not know anything about this, GP?
You didn't answer the question "what did Obama do to knee cap fossil fuel production'?

https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article24754855.html

"Obama praises natural gas from fracking for economic and environmental benefits. The fracking boom led to cheap U.S. natural gas. As a result, utilities are switching to it from the more polluting coal.

"'We should strengthen our position as the top natural gas producer because, in the medium term at least, it not only can provide safe, cheap power, but it can also help reduce our carbon emissions'” Obama said in his recent climate change speech."
You didn't answer the question "what did Obama do to knee cap fossil fuel production'?

He banned offshore drilling. Reduced leases on federal land. Rejected the Keystone pipeline.
Federal restrictions on fracking. Paris agreement.

What did he do to encourage fossil fuel production?
 

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Do you think that many Voters will buy that Trump ran Obama's economy into the ground?
How can the Dems make Trump responsible for the Pandemic Recession whilst they demand that businesses schools and churches remain closed?
I agree with Harris to the extent that Trump's handling of the pandemic has left much to be desired and has had adverse effect on the economy. From what I've witnessed the economies of Red states are suffering the pandemic as much as Blue states. Which is natural since the medical experts advising the precautions have come from government organizations run by those Trump put in charge.
 

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Are you being deliberately obtuse or do you really not know anything about this, GP?
You didn't answer the question "what did Obama do to knee cap fossil fuel production'?

https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article24754855.html

"Obama praises natural gas from fracking for economic and environmental benefits. The fracking boom led to cheap U.S. natural gas. As a result, utilities are switching to it from the more polluting coal.

"'We should strengthen our position as the top natural gas producer because, in the medium term at least, it not only can provide safe, cheap power, but it can also help reduce our carbon emissions'” Obama said in his recent climate change speech."
Quite frankly, GP...I'm appalled that I'd NEED to answer that question! How do you not know that Barack Obama actively worked to make fossil fuels more expensive?
 

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It's one thing to agree or disagree with the stance that Obama took towards fossil fuels but it's another when you have no clue what that stance WAS!
 

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Quite frankly, GP...I'm appalled that I'd NEED to answer that question! How do you not know that Barack Obama actively worked to make fossil fuels more expensive?
"What did Obama do to knee-cap fossil fuel production"

Fossil fuel political giving outdistances renewables 13 to one

Oil & Gas: Background | OpenSecrets

"Energy companies often favor lawmakers in fossil fuel-producing states.

"Republicans have led the efforts to defeat President Barack Obama's climate-change efforts.

"Still, the energy sector did contribute $2.5 million to Obama's 2012 campaign.

"It donated more than $10 million to presidential hopeful Mitt Romney's, however.

"According to advocacy group Oil Change International, President Obama "proposed cutting [oil] subsidies every year he's been in office.'

"The group estimates that these cuts would save about $4 billion annually, but none of cuts have made it through Congress."
 

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Quite frankly, GP...I'm appalled that I'd NEED to answer that question! How do you not know that Barack Obama actively worked to make fossil fuels more expensive?
"What did Obama do to knee-cap fossil fuel production"

Fossil fuel political giving outdistances renewables 13 to one

Oil & Gas: Background | OpenSecrets

"Energy companies often favor lawmakers in fossil fuel-producing states.

"Republicans have led the efforts to defeat President Barack Obama's climate-change efforts.

"Still, the energy sector did contribute $2.5 million to Obama's 2012 campaign.

"It donated more than $10 million to presidential hopeful Mitt Romney's, however.

"According to advocacy group Oil Change International, President Obama "proposed cutting [oil] subsidies every year he's been in office.'

"The group estimates that these cuts would save about $4 billion annually, but none of cuts have made it through Congress."
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