Harris goes after the NRA

[TroglocratsRdumb]

U.S. Vice President Kamala Harris took aim at the NRA in a speech to Rev. Al Sharpton's National Action Network in New York Friday. She decried gun violence as the leading killer of American children. "Enough is enough," she said.

MSN

Comment:
The NRA is opposed to gun violence.
What they do is try to protect the right to bear arms.
Probably 99.99% of gun owners own guns to defend themselves from the Democratic Party's criminals and terrorists.
I have doubts about Harris's claim that guns are the "leading killer of American children".

Pools: more dangerous for children than guns - Arizona Daily Star​

https://tucson.com/news/local/pools-more-dangerous...

Pools: more dangerous for children than guns A child is 100 times more likely to drown in a pool than be killed by a gun By Eric Swedlund arizona daily star Jun 12, 2005 Lindsay A....

 

[Moonglow]

I would surmise that humans are the leading cause of human deaths.

 

[Donald H]

All gun control measures will fail to reduce the slaughter by guns.

The only way out for America is in a change of the attitudes that prevail that make the military and the copies of military firearms so popular.

The current war that's obviously against Russia is only increasing the popularity of military lookalike rifles, and so the move is still in the opposite direction.

Until we have the discussion, this is still only another of hundreds of gungoon threads.

 

[johngaltshrugged]

They have to include 18-19 yr olds in the children category to get that result.
They do this because of the massive gang banger violence that boosts the numbers.
Plus, they always include suicides in the gun violence categories.
I believe the US may be the only country that does this

 

[johngaltshrugged]

All gun control measures will fail to reduce the slaughter by guns.

The only way out for America is in a change of the attitudes that prevail that make the military and the copies of military firearms so popular.

The current war that's obviously against Russia is only increasing the popularity of military lookalike rifles, and so the move is still in the opposite direction.

Until we have the discussion, this is still only another of hundreds of gungoon threads.

Attitudes like the fact we are exercising our 2A rights & if the military/LEO has them, so should we?
The 2A is all about protecting ourselves from the tyranny despotism &/or lawless behavior.

Those "military lookalike rifles" are not going anywhere.
I use mine on coyotes. Good practice

 

[Hossfly]

I would surmise that humans are the leading cause of human deaths.

Any so called American who is anti gun should never be elected to political office. After taking their empty 'oath of office' to Protect and Defend the Constitution they immediately embark on a mission to tear up the Constitution. Joe and Kameltoes are typical traitorous pieces of cat shit.

 

[1srelluc]

She better be more concerned with the GOA and the many state grass roots pro-2A .orgs.....They are where the rubber meets the road now since we got tired of paying for Wayne's suits and lavish NRA BoD trips.

The NRA has been relegated to Fudd Central now.

 

[Donald H]

They have to include 18-19 yr olds in the children category to get that result.
They do this because of the massive gang banger violence that boosts the numbers.
Plus, they always include suicides in the gun violence categories.
I believe the US may be the only country that does this

Still john, we know the reason why the problem has to be denied.

And so another gun topic can be closed on account of the problem not even existing with the number of guns.

Again, it's the attitude toward copying the military, as is evidenced by the choice of the black copies.
(and human silouette targets, etc.)

 

[Donald H]

Those "military lookalike rifles" are not going anywhere.

Not in the foreseeable future and especially when America is at war and the perceived need is growing!

Would a school mass shooting of 100 or more dead children even cause a change in attitudes?

No, because the number of guns is inversely proportional to the size and number of mass shootings.

The good guy with a gun who has become the bad guy with a gun, has in most cases adopted a military state of mind.

10 of 17 worst/most successful mass shooting involve an AR-15.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

They have to include 18-19 yr olds in the children category to get that result.
They do this because of the massive gang banger violence that boosts the numbers.
Plus, they always include suicides in the gun violence categories.
I believe the US may be the only country that does this

yep 18-19 year olds are not children
The Dems use the NRA to raise campaign funds
For some reason a lot of Left Wingers fear people being able to defend themselves
The right to self defense is the most basic of human rights

 

[Flash]

U.S. Vice President Kamala Harris took aim at the NRA in a speech to Rev. Al Sharpton's National Action Network in New York Friday. She decried gun violence as the leading killer of American children. "Enough is enough," she said.

MSN

Comment:
The NRA is opposed to gun violence.
What they do is try to protect the right to bear arms.
Probably 99.99% of gun owners own guns to defend themselves from the Democratic Party's criminals and terrorists.
I have doubts about Harris's claim that guns are the "leading killer of American children".
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Pools: more dangerous for children than guns - Arizona Daily Star​

https://tucson.com/news/local/pools-more-dangerous...

Pools: more dangerous for children than guns A child is 100 times more likely to drown in a pool than be killed by a gun By Eric Swedlund arizona daily star Jun 12, 2005 Lindsay A....

Most of them ain't children you moron. They are 15, 16, 17 and 18 year old gang members, street thugs and druggies. Usually Negroes or Hispanics and shot by other Blacks and Browns.

 

[Hossfly]

Still john, we know the reason why the problem has to be denied.

And so another gun topic can be closed on account of the problem not even existing with the number of guns.

Again, it's the attitude toward copying the military, as is evidenced by the choice of the black copies.
(and human silouette targets, etc.)

Here's a big killer that doesn't doesn't look like a military weapon. Hell, you can make mass killing weapons out of junk you can find around the house or buy at Home Depot. I saw my first ones on the streets of Baltimore in 1951. Liberals are stuck on AR-15s and preach horror about assault weapons.

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[Donald H]

Most of them ain't children you moron. They are 15, 16, 17 and 18 year old gang members, street thugs and druggies. Usually Negroes or Hispanics and shot by other Blacks and Browns.

That's what has been missing! A racist making excuses for why the dead don't matter.

 

[Flash]

That's what has been missing! A racist making excuses for why the dead don't matter.

It makes a hellva difference when the goddamn Blacks and Brown are killing one another over drugs and other criminal activities and Libtard assholes like you want to use that as an excuse to deprive Americans of their Constitutional rights.

I have a great idea Moon Bat. Instead of taking away the Bill of Rights why don't you Democrat turds start enforcing the existing laws instead of letting the criminals run rampant in your big city shitholes? Ever think of that?

You won't do that because these Blacks and Browns that commit all these crimes are the main voting block of the filthy Democrat Party.

 

[Donald H]

It makes a hellva difference when the goddamn Blacks and Brown are killing one another over drugs and other criminal activities and Libtard assholes like you want to use that as an excuse to deprive Americans of their Constitutional rights.

I have a great idea Moon Bat. Instead of taking away the Bill of Rights why don't you Democrat turds start enforcing the existing laws instead of letting the criminals run rampant in your big city shitholes? Ever think of that?

You won't do that because these Blacks and Browns that commit all these crimes are the main voting block of the filthy Democrat Party.

I'm a Canadian and I favour the R side on account of what is implied with Biden's war.

Trump is much more likely to end the war with Russia.
He may even understand that it's too late to take on China or China/Russia/the Brics/and more.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

The right to self defense is the most basic of human rights

The Absurdity of Anti-Government People Worshipping a Government Document

It's not in your ruling class's Constitution, and the next Liberal SCROTUS will rule that it isn't. The crime-loving Justices will decree that only National Guardsmen can keep the guns issued to them, but even they can't use them in self-defense unless on duty after being called up.

 

[westwall]

They have to include 18-19 yr olds in the children category to get that result.
They do this because of the massive gang banger violence that boosts the numbers.
Plus, they always include suicides in the gun violence categories.
I believe the US may be the only country that does this

Up to 22 actually.

 

[2aguy]

U.S. Vice President Kamala Harris took aim at the NRA in a speech to Rev. Al Sharpton's National Action Network in New York Friday. She decried gun violence as the leading killer of American children. "Enough is enough," she said.

MSN

Comment:
The NRA is opposed to gun violence.
What they do is try to protect the right to bear arms.
Probably 99.99% of gun owners own guns to defend themselves from the Democratic Party's criminals and terrorists.
I have doubts about Harris's claim that guns are the "leading killer of American children".
View attachment 776599

Pools: more dangerous for children than guns - Arizona Daily Star​

https://tucson.com/news/local/pools-more-dangerous...

Pools: more dangerous for children than guns A child is 100 times more likely to drown in a pool than be killed by a gun By Eric Swedlund arizona daily star Jun 12, 2005 Lindsay A....

Guns are not the leading cause of death for children.....that is the newest lie they are using to push gun control....

73.6 million children in 2020 in the United States



Unintentional gun deaths by gun ages <1 to 14..........from the Centers for Disease Control...



2020



93



Intentional gun murder ages <1-14.....



394



Intentional gun murder ages 15-19.....



(keeping in mind these are majority criminals, involved in gangs, drugs and other crime.....and when do you consider an 17,18, 19 year old a child?)



2,417



Unintentional motor vehicle deaths of children 2020.......



ages ....... <1-14



1,315



ages......15-19



2,638



Application Dispatcher



Number of children in the U.S. 2021 | Statista



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The National Gang Center (NGC), a function of the federal government, tells us that in recent years, between 35 and 41% of street gang members are under age 18. They also note that street gang recruitment begins at age 14, when the social effects of puberty take control (as well as early onset testosterone poisoning).



Ponder that: criminology separates teens from traditional children due to changing behaviors and capacities for risk. For guns, those demarcations should be enforced as well.



The CDC table above showed that for ages 0–14, guns were not a major risk. Hence, the inaccurate claim that “guns are the leading cause of death for children” includes teens, which means it has to include teenage street gang members.



Given what the NGC says about entry into street gangs (age 14), the percentages of gang members that are teens (minimum 35%), and that American street gangs are stupendously violent, you would expect to see gun homicides rise steeply in the teen years.



And it does. Factor in that street gangs are largely metropolitan and that gun play between black street gangs is the worst of gang violence, and the rest of this chart makes even more sense.



Guns Not Leading Cause of Child Deaths | Gun Facts

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First of all, the number of firearm deaths for school-age children drops quite a bit when you do not include 18-year-olds.
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Removing 18-year-olds would drop the gun death number to 28,559 — just slightly fewer than the total for the military and police.
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In fact, 17- and 18-year-olds make up almost 56 percent of the gun deaths of school-age children. The numbers also drop significantly — 60 percent — if suicides are removed.
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We are also wary when a single change in the data set — from age 18 to 17 — reduces the number enough that the statistic is no longer correct.

Biden’s startling statistic on school-age gun deaths

 

[2aguy]

They have to include 18-19 yr olds in the children category to get that result.
They do this because of the massive gang banger violence that boosts the numbers.
Plus, they always include suicides in the gun violence categories.
I believe the US may be the only country that does this

Yep.....

73.6 million children in 2020 in the United States



Unintentional gun deaths by gun ages <1 to 14..........from the Centers for Disease Control...



2020



93



Intentional gun murder ages <1-14.....



394



Intentional gun murder ages 15-19.....



(keeping in mind these are majority criminals, involved in gangs, drugs and other crime.....and when do you consider an 17,18, 19 year old a child?)



2,417



Unintentional motor vehicle deaths of children 2020.......



ages ....... <1-14



1,315



ages......15-19



2,638



Application Dispatcher



Number of children in the U.S. 2021 | Statista



==========

==========



The National Gang Center (NGC), a function of the federal government, tells us that in recent years, between 35 and 41% of street gang members are under age 18. They also note that street gang recruitment begins at age 14, when the social effects of puberty take control (as well as early onset testosterone poisoning).



Ponder that: criminology separates teens from traditional children due to changing behaviors and capacities for risk. For guns, those demarcations should be enforced as well.



The CDC table above showed that for ages 0–14, guns were not a major risk. Hence, the inaccurate claim that “guns are the leading cause of death for children” includes teens, which means it has to include teenage street gang members.



Given what the NGC says about entry into street gangs (age 14), the percentages of gang members that are teens (minimum 35%), and that American street gangs are stupendously violent, you would expect to see gun homicides rise steeply in the teen years.



And it does. Factor in that street gangs are largely metropolitan and that gun play between black street gangs is the worst of gang violence, and the rest of this chart makes even more sense.



Guns Not Leading Cause of Child Deaths | Gun Facts

==========



First of all, the number of firearm deaths for school-age children drops quite a bit when you do not include 18-year-olds.
---
Removing 18-year-olds would drop the gun death number to 28,559 — just slightly fewer than the total for the military and police.
----

In fact, 17- and 18-year-olds make up almost 56 percent of the gun deaths of school-age children. The numbers also drop significantly — 60 percent — if suicides are removed.
---
We are also wary when a single change in the data set — from age 18 to 17 — reduces the number enough that the statistic is no longer correct.

Biden’s startling statistic on school-age gun deaths

 

[2aguy]

She better be more concerned with the GOA and the many state grass roots pro-2A .orgs.....They are where the rubber meets the road now since we got tired of paying for Wayne's suits and lavish NRA BoD trips.

The NRA has been relegated to Fudd Central now.

The Problem they have is they have invested so much in demonizing the NRA, they haven't had time to order their democrat media puppets to target GOA.....and Americans won't know what the **** they are talking about........so they stick to the oldy but goody, NRA...