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What facts are you stating?

Only that you’d rather import from china than make stuff in America
I give up. You are too intellectually constrained by Trump's lies to understand.

I provided stacks of facts and the links and material to back all of it up.

You can lead a horse to water...
 
JESUS!

Robots will make our toasters! Goddam, man! How is it possible this is not penetrating your skull?!?

EXTINCT! Look up the word.
I agree that automation will do much of the hands-on work performed today

But if robots are the future lets make them in America and use them to make the products here instead of importing from china
 
I give up. You are too intellectually constrained by Trump's lies to understand.

I provided stacks of facts and the links and material to back all of it up.

You can lead a horse to water...
You are the one dying of thirst

I am making sense while you are babbling bs
 
I don't think anyone thought the price of eggs (which are still too high) was going to finish Trump off.

When people start seeing negative numbers in their 401K balances, and getting layoff notices, that's going to be the end of this MAGA nonsense.
In your Marxist dreams.
MAGA is here to stay.
You worthless leftist traitors are on the way OUT.
 
And your plan is to wipe out ALL the jobs
Why do you make automation a personal policy of another poster?

The jobs are not there. And even if they were, do you think Americans will sew tennis shoes all day, and do it better than any other country? I'm not attacking you personally, but I have not seen any actual factual, provable support that simply putting on tariffs to make goods more expensive is going to reinvigorate the american econ, which just exited a self-created inflationary cycle

but we'll see. Perhaps AOC and her focking squad can save maga.
 
You are the one dying of thirst

I am making sense while you are babbling bs
so, then. YOU tell US how trump's tariffs will make america competitive. specifically. How do the dollars and cents work? If toyota and volkswagen can build a car to sell in Japan and the EU cheaper than the US can build one. How specifically does the US gain global market share? Or will we simply be immune to intl trade and costs?
 
The tariff thing reminds me of minimum wage. It involves the same kind of denial of economic reality, the same delusional commitment to populist tripe.
 
The tariff thing reminds me of minimum wage. It involves the same kind of denial of economic reality, the same delusional commitment to populist tripe.
I'm not sure I'm tracking. a tariff like a min wage simply sets a price floor. and there is the rub. trump treats tariffs as .... beats the fuck outta me. You can use a tariff to even up with a country that put a tariff on shit we try to sell. The gop has always been ok with that, even Reagan.

but trump is simply making imports more expensive for american consumers. His "theory" seems to be that wages will increase to meet more expensive products. We did that in the late 70s. It was called stagflation.
 
I'm not sure I'm tracking.
They're both delusional. Supporters of both bury their heads in the sand when shown the futility of their pet policy. But it plays well with the rubes, so they run with it.
 
The Trumpsters here are saying that if you think Trump has gone too far here, then you're against America using tariffs.

No, Einstein, it's how they're used, how large they are, what they are on, and how they affect the country. Details. Specifics.

But the Trumpsters are so fucking stuck in simplistic binary thinking patterns that such a thought doesn't even occur to them.
 
They're both delusional. Supporters of both bury their heads in the sand when shown the futility of their pet policy. But it plays well with the rubes so they run with it.
I don't see a min wage as futile. It can be harmful to an employer if the wage is set so high that prices have to rise to meet it, so sales decline. I'm no fan of what the progs were up to in N. Calif during the Biden forgotten years. It was punishing people for selling food for what people would pay.

During Obama's term, Jina decided to sell solar collectors for less than even they could produce the damn things. Predatory pricing is the econ/legal term. I'm perfectly ok with 100% tariffs or even outright import bans on that shit.
 
On April 19th of last year, the DJ Total Market Index was at 49.7k under Sponge Brains Shits Pants and his dimocrap scum Pals

Today, during a MAJOR selloff under OMB, it's at 53.7k

Anybody here good enough at Math to tell us which is better?

The DJIA is yesterday's breakfast. It's just not taken seriously anymore. DJTMI takes into consideration the Dow, S&P, NASDAQ and even the Russell Indexes. It's just a better barometer of our economy.

None of them are perfect. And none of them can predict the future.
 
On April 19th of last year, the DJ Total Market Index was at 49.7k under Sponge Brains Shits Pants and his dimocrap scum Pals

Today, during a MAJOR selloff under OMB, it's at 53.7k

Anybody here good enough at Math to tell us which is better?

The DJIA is yesterday's breakfast. It's just not taken seriously anymore. DJTMI takes into consideration the Dow, S&P, NASDAQ and even the Russell Indexes. It's just a better barometer of our economy.

None of them are perfect. And none of them can predict the future.

OBTW, one year ago, Oil was at $86 a barrel and today it's at $66

Same question, can somebody with an advanced degree in Math tell us which is better :dunno:

Or, as they say at the dimocrap scum convention, which is "More Gooder" :auiqs.jpg:
 
Why do you make automation a personal policy of another poster?

The jobs are not there. And even if they were, do you think Americans will sew tennis shoes all day, and do it better than any other country? I'm not attacking you personally, but I have not seen any actual factual, provable support that simply putting on tariffs to make goods more expensive is going to reinvigorate the american econ, which just exited a self-created inflationary cycle

but we'll see. Perhaps AOC and her focking squad can save maga.
He brought it up

As in Na Na Nah Na!

Automation will take American jobs so why make anything in America, sez he

Do you think Americans will sew tennis shoes all day,?

I dont think doctors and lawyers will since they have something better that pays well

But what about able bodied welfare bums who dont have a job?

Yeah, those folks
 
so, then. YOU tell US how trump's tariffs will make america competitive. specifically. How do the dollars and cents work? If toyota and volkswagen can build a car to sell in Japan and the EU cheaper than the US can build one. How specifically does the US gain global market share? Or will we simply be immune to intl trade and costs?
I dont expect America to sell many cars in the EU or Japan

But at the same time I dont want cheap imports from china to destroy our domestic auto manufacturing

Tariffs level the playing field
 
He brought it up

As in Na Na Nah Na!

Automation will take American jobs so why make anything in America, sez he

Do you think Americans will sew tennis shoes all day,?

I dont think doctors and lawyers will since they have something better that pays well

But what about able bodied welfare bums who dont have a job?

Yeah, those folks

Yeah, it's a pathetically stupid argument, cause he has nothing else.
 

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