Hamas leader: Nations are recognizing Palestinian state due to ‘fruits of October 7’

Can Israelis claim to be indigenous if Muslims lived there for longer than they have? I don't accept it.
The Jewish people originated in that homeland. That makes the Jewish people indigenous to that homeland. The Jewish people are the oldest, surviving ethnic, cultural, national group in that territory. You can't possibly be denying this reality?

(Also, "Muslim" is one who adheres to the religion of Islam. It is not an ethnic, cultural, or national group. Therefore, irrelevant to the conversation.)
 
Can Israelis claim to be indigenous if Muslims lived there for longer than they have? I don't accept it.
The Jews arrived in Israel about 3300 years ago. Muslims didn’t exist until the 7th century.
 
Why would Israel want it to continue to be a difficult situation? Why not either cede some territory to "Palestine"? Or assert sovereignty over Area C and either remove foreign nationals, give them permanent resident status, or full citizenship? Or some combination thereof?

More importantly, why doesn't some government in Palestine just do the dirty work of negotiating borders and a peace treaty?
All good questions. I don't see Israel ready to make dramatic concessions, like a second state, for peace.
 
The Jewish people originated in that homeland. That makes the Jewish people indigenous to that homeland. The Jewish people are the oldest, surviving ethnic, cultural, national group in that territory. You can't possibly be denying this reality?

(Also, "Muslim" is one who adheres to the religion of Islam. It is not an ethnic, cultural, or national group. Therefore, irrelevant to the conversation.)
Sorry, you don't get to call 'dibs' on someone else's homeland.
 
All good questions. I don't see Israel ready to make dramatic concessions, like a second state, for peace.
You mean like unilaterally giving up any presence in Gaza? How did that work out?
 
Sorry, you don't get to call 'dibs' on someone else's homeland.
Hang on there. We are trying to establish how territory becomes "someone's" homeland.

The Jewish people originated in that homeland. Agree or disagree?
 
Jews were one of several a Semitic tribes that lived in that area. Arabs are another.
There were never any Arab countries were Israel is now it has been the so called Palestine was always part of some other empire other than when the Jews thier own there.... Learn some real history fool





 
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Jews were one of several a Semitic tribes that lived in that area. Arabs are another.
Assuming this is true, what then excludes the Jewish tribes from self-determination and gives exclusive self-determination to the singular Arab tribe? If BOTH peoples lived in that area what makes the area belong to "someone" and not "someone else"? Make it make sense.
 
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There were never any Arab countries were Israel is now it has been the so called Palestine was always part of some other empire other than when the Jews thier own there.... Learn some real history fool
There were plenty of non-Jewish countries in the area, read the Bible.
 
Muslims owned that land for 1,500 years. I doubt Jews owned it that long

Different people are Muslims the Turks the ultimate empire are not Arabs and they also ruled Spain for 700 years that area is not a separate entity it's not a country only when the Jews were there then they were exiled by Europeans then the Europeans conquered the Turks the Europeans divided up the areas into separate countries made up by them the Europeans installed Kings and rulers.
 
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