Hamas leader: Nations are recognizing Palestinian state due to ‘fruits of October 7’

[JoeB131]

There you go again, one lie after another and never an honest post. None of your statements has a basis in fact and each of these lies points out just how antisemitic you are.

Someone should have taught you at an early age that screaming "you lie" isn't a valid form of debate.

Try harder.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Someone should have taught you at an early age that screaming "you lie" isn't a valid form of debate.

Try harder.

You don't debate, you simply tell lies, and the reason you do is that there is no honest case to be made to support your extreme antisemitism. You just clearly have no idea why you hate Jews so much.

 

[JoeB131]

You don't debate, you simply tell lies, and the reason you do is that there is no honest case to be made to support your extreme antisemitism. You just clearly have no idea why you hate Jews so much.

Sure, there's a good reason to oppose Zionism. It's a fascist, racist ideology based on religious fanaticism.

Not to mention it keeps dragging us into wars over there because Capitol Hill is Zionist Occupied Territory.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Sure, there's a good reason to oppose Zionism. It's a fascist, racist ideology based on religious fanaticism.

Not to mention it keeps dragging us into wars over there because Capitol Hill is Zionist Occupied Territory.

Again, not a single honest word in your post, and it is interesting to note that in your fumbling effort to answer the question about why you hate Jews so much, you try to turn the issue to Zionism. Perhaps your opposition to Zionism the result of your intense hatred of Jews.

 

[JoeB131]

Again, not a single honest word in your post, and it is interesting to note that in your fumbling effort to answer the question about why you hate Jews so much, you try to turn the issue to Zionism. Perhaps your opposition to Zionism the result of your intense hatred of Jews.

No, my dislike for Zionism is my dislike for a bunch of arrogant assholes who think they can steal someone else's land and there's nothing wrong with that.

 

[toomuchtime_]

No, my dislike for Zionism is my dislike for a bunch of arrogant assholes who think they can steal someone else's land and there's nothing wrong with that.

But you already know contemporaneous records show no land was stolen from the Arabs in Palestine before 1948, so clearly it is your hatred of Jews that leads you to post nonsense about Zionism.

 

[Hector12]

No, not at all.

The Palestinians hate the Jews because they stole their land.
The Germans hated the Jews because they completely screwed them after WWI.

The Jews did not steal anything from the Palestinians. They took back what was theirs. After possessing the land for two thousand years Palestine was a third world dump. The Jews, because of their intrinsic superiority turned Israel into an oasis of first world civilization.

Jews are not responsible for the suffering of the Germans after World War I. The German leaders to provoked the First World War are responsible.

 

[Hector12]

No, my dislike for Zionism is my dislike for a bunch of arrogant assholes who think they can steal someone else's land and there's nothing wrong with that.

The acquisition of new land and soil for the settling of the superfluous population has no end of advantages.

- Adolf Hitler, from Mein Kampf, Volume I, Chapter IV, "Munich

 

[JoeB131]

The Jews did not steal anything from the Palestinians. They took back what was theirs. After possessing the land for two thousand years Palestine was a third world dump. The Jews, because of their intrinsic superiority turned Israel into an oasis of first world civilization.

So if someone else can make better use of your home than you are, does that make it okay for them to take it from you? Asking for a friend.

Jews are not responsible for the suffering of the Germans after World War I. The German leaders to provoked the First World War are responsible.

Well, first, Germany didn't provoke the First World War. They weren't even the first country in. I think the First World War was probably inevitable, given it was the end result of colonialism and imperialism.

Secondly, the misery of Germany after the War, when Jewish revolutionaries overthrew the Kaiser, and Jewish Bankers took economic advantage of a defeated nation, can not be understated. Were the Jews solely responsible for that? No. Did they make a convenient target for people who already didn't like them? You betcha.

The acquisition of new land and soil for the settling of the superfluous population has no end of advantages.

- Adolf Hitler

You are making my point about the Zionists being like the Nazis, aren't you?

"It's okay when we do it!" is never a good excuse.

 

[Hector12]

You are making my point about the Zionists being like the Nazis, aren't you?

"It's okay when we do it!" is never a good excuse.

Jewish Genius By Charles Murray, Commentary, April 02, 2007​

As soon as Jewish children born under legal emancipation had time to grow to adulthood, they started appearing in the first ranks of the arts and sciences. During the four decades from 1830 to 1870, when the first Jews to live under emancipation reached their forties, 16 significant Jewish figures appear. In the next four decades, from 1870 to 1910, the number jumps to 40. During the next four decades, 1910–1950, despite the contemporaneous devastation of European Jewry, the number of significant figures almost triples, to 114.

To get a sense of the density of accomplishment these numbers represent, I will focus on 1870 onward, after legal emancipation had been achieved throughout Central and Western Europe. How does the actual number of significant figures compare to what would be expected given the Jewish proportion of the European and North American population? From 1870 to 1950, Jewish representation in literature was four times the number one would expect. In music, five times. In the visual arts, five times. In biology, eight times. In chemistry, six times. In physics, nine times. In mathematics, twelve times. In philosophy, fourteen times.

Disproportionate Jewish accomplishment in the arts and sciences continues to this day. My inventories end with 1950, but many other measures are available, of which the best known is the Nobel Prize. In the first half of the 20th century, despite pervasive and continuing social discrimination against Jews throughout the Western world, despite the retraction of legal rights, and despite the Holocaust, Jews won 14 percent of Nobel Prizes in literature, chemistry, physics, and medicine/physiology. In the second half of the 20th century, when Nobel Prizes began to be awarded to people from all over the world, that figure rose to 29 percent. So far, in the 21st century, it has been 32 percent. Jews constitute about two-tenths of one percent of the world’s population. You do the math.

Jewish Genius

W. H. Brady Scholar Charles Murray Since its first issue in 1945, COMMENTARY has published hundreds of articles about Jews and Judaism. As one would expect, they cover just about every important aspect of the...

www.aei.org

 

[JoeB131]

Jewish Genius By Charles Murray, Commentary, April 02, 2007​

Look out, man, he's gushing nonsense from his favorite racists.

Wow, A Jew thought his people were the smartest and bestest.

Who knew.

 

[Hector12]

RACE, INTELLIGENCE, AND THE BRAIN: THE ERRORS AND OMISSIONS OF THE 'REVISED' EDITION OF S. J. GOULD'S THE MISMEASURE OF MAN (1996) J. Philippe Rushton Department of Psychology, University of Western Ontario, London, Ontario N6A 5C2, Canada

Gould withholds from his readers that The Bell Curve is mainly an empirical work about the causes of social stratification and that it reached its conclusions only after fully analyzing a 12-year longitudinal study of 12,486 youths (3022 of whom were African-American), which showed that most 17-year-olds with high IQs (Blacks as well as Whites) went on to occupational success by their late 20s and early 30s whereas many of those with low IQs (both Black and White) went on to welfare dependency. The average IQ for African-Americans was found to be lower than those for Latino-, White-, Asian-, and Jewish-Americans (85, 89, 103, 106, and 115, respectively, pp. 273-278). Failure to mention these data fosters the false belief that IQ tests are not predictive and are biased in favor of North Europeans.

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The Jews did not steal anything from the Palestinians. They took back what was theirs. After possessing the land for two thousand years Palestine was a third world dump. The Jews, because of their intrinsic superiority turned Israel into an oasis of first world civilization.

So if someone else can make better use of your home than you are, does that make it okay for them to take it from you? Asking for a friend.

Jews are not responsible for the suffering of the Germans after World War I. The German leaders to provoked the First World War are responsible.

Well, first...

• JoeB131

 

[Hector12]

Look out, man, he's gushing nonsense from his favorite racists.

Wow, A Jew thought his people were the smartest and bestest.

Who knew.

I am not Jewish. Neither is Charles Murray.

A racist is one who is aware of black social pathology, willing to discuss it, and who does not blame it on whites.

 

[JoeB131]

RACE, INTELLIGENCE, AND THE BRAIN: THE ERRORS AND OMISSIONS OF THE 'REVISED' EDITION OF S. J. GOULD'S THE MISMEASURE OF MAN (1996) J. Philippe Rushton

Yes, you are trotting out all the discredited racists tonight.

I am not Jewish. Neither is Charles Murray.

A racist is one who is aware of black social pathology, willing to discuss it, and who does not blame it on whites.

A guy with a name like Murray isn't Jewish?

Frankly, if you want to talk about Social pathology, no one has us white folks beat. Hitler. Stalin. Napoleon. Mussolini. Most of the worst mass murderers in history have been white dudes. I mean, good thing you got Chairman Mao in there so it's not all white folks.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Yeah, because Hamas subhuman terrorist animals aren’t criminal.

That's a non sequitur. Of course they are criminals. But the US and Israel could have been rid of their criminal leaders via simply pulling a voting lever. For Gaza to rid itself of Hamas would have required blood and death. Which it got anyway.

 

[Roudy]

Look out, man, he's gushing nonsense from his favorite racists.

Wow, A Jew thought his people were the smartest and bestest.

Who knew.

Except Charles Murray isn’t a Jew. Wowza, as usual you’re fulla Shiite.

 

[Roudy]

That's a non sequitur. Of course they are criminals. But the US and Israel could have been rid of their criminal leaders via simply pulling a voting lever. For Gaza to rid itself of Hamas would have required blood and death. Which it got anyway.

Not really, considering Gazans actually joined in on the genocide and barbarism of October 7. They were celebrating their beloved Hamas heroes and threatening many more October 7’s to come, until Israel’s response began about a month and half later. Then Palestinians and their supporters started squealing like pigs,

 

[Hector12]

Yes, you are trotting out all the discredited racists tonight.



A guy with a name like Murray isn't Jewish?

Frankly, if you want to talk about Social pathology, no one has us white folks beat. Hitler. Stalin. Napoleon. Mussolini. Most of the worst mass murderers in history have been white dudes. I mean, good thing you got Chairman Mao in there so it's not all white folks.

How have they been discredited? Where is there evidence of intrinsic racial equality?

What I mean by black social pathology is that by every objective, measurable criterion Negroes tend to be considerably less intelligent than whites and Orientals and that they have higher rates of illegitimacy and much higher crime rates.

Cities in Germany, Japan, China, South Korea, North Korea, Taiwan, and Singapore are safe after dark. Black majority cities in the United States are not.

 

[Hector12]

Ghazi Hamad, a senior member of the Hamas politburo, told Al Jazeera over the weekend that the wave of Western nations moving to recognize a Palestinian state is the result of “the fruits” of Hamas’ October 7, 2023, massacre.

In a clip of his interview with the outlet yesterday, Hamad asked the interviewer: “Why are all the countries recognizing a Palestinian state today? Before October 7, did any country dare recognize a Palestinian state?”

He continues: “The fruits of October 7 are what caused the entire world to open its eyes to the Palestinian issue — and they are moving toward it with force. That is, that the Palestinian people are a people who deserve a country.”

Dozens of countries had recognized Palestinian statehood prior to the October 7 attack, though in recent weeks, many more have taken steps in that direction, including a number of major Israeli allies, citing the need to bring an end to the war in Gaza.

Responding to Hamad’s remarks, Foreign Minister Gideon Sa’ar — who has argued that unilateral recognition at this time “rewards terror” — called out France, the United Kingdom, and Canada for announcing plans to recognize a Palestinian state in September, asking rhetorically in a post on X: “If this [is] who applauds you — what does it say about you?”

MSN

Britain, France, Canada and Hamas apparently all think alike.

 

[JoeB131]

How have they been discredited? Where is there evidence of intrinsic racial equality?

Their own universities have denounced their work. Discredited.

What I mean by black social pathology is that by every objective, measurable criterion Negroes tend to be considerably less intelligent than whites and Orientals and that they have higher rates of illegitimacy and much higher crime rates.

If blacks were inferior, we wouldn't need 400 years of laws to try to keep them oppressed.

Cities in Germany, Japan, China, South Korea, North Korea, Taiwan, and Singapore are safe after dark. Black majority cities in the United States are not.

Again, genocide is a white person thing. I think genociding people (Whether it be the Nazis or the Zionists) is a far bigger social pathology than robbing someone to feed yourself. (Or perhaps feed an addiction.)