Hamas Leader Killed

[José]

In other words, their priority is to destroy Israel.

toomuchtime

"For a nation as powerful as ours to be waging a war against a bunch of
unarmed nomads is such a horrendous, immoral, shameful spectacle that
I'm sure it will still draw the ire of the Almighty against us and our descendants."​

Letter written by a US government agent and sent to President Lincoln (if I'm not mistaken) cited in the book "Bury my Heart at Wounded Knee".

I cited that extremely moving letter to make clear that in most ethnocratic conflicts the native population's desire to "destroy" the ethnocracy (which is real) is absolutely irrelevant, immaterial because the natives simply do not have the power to do so.

In all conflicts between natives and settlers, the ethnocracy created by the latter is infinitely more powerful than the natives otherwise it wouldn't have been able to create and defend a separate, exclusionary society in the homeland of the natives in the first place.

In America, Canada, Latin America, Australia, etc... the ethnocracies defeated the natives' armed struggle and were subsequently peacefully dismanted by a long-term process of self-criticism and social evolution on the part of the dominant ethnic groups.

In South Africa there was no such evolutionary process and the english-afrikaner racial dictatorship was peacefully dismantled due to intense international pressure, economic isolation, etc...

I'm not saying the opposition of the discriminated groups to the ethnocracy played no part in its dismantlement.

The US civil rights movement obviously hastened the process of self-criticism of the anglo elites that led to the disappearance of the last vestiges of the ethnocratic state created by the founders of the Republic 200 years ago.

There would be no incentive to isolate SA internationally if the Bantu peoples were perfectly satisfied with Apartheid.

But in none of the examples cited above the supremacist states were militarily defeated by the natives and it won't be any different in Palestine.

The palestinian arabs don't have the power to defeat Israel and never will.

In the absence of a major nuclear conflagration, the jewish racial dictatorship will be either peacefully dismantled (by self-criticism or international pressure (the latter being much more likely, IMO) or it will defeat the natives and consolidate itself (highly unlikely in my personal opinion).

 

[Hector12]

How stunningly unintelligent, presenting an article from a Jew hating, Zionist magazine founded by the American Jewish Committee that exaggerates Jewish "superiority". I'm sure I have something here written by Goebbels claiming the Aryan's were superior too...

Calling Commentary "a Jew hating,...magazine" means that you do not need to be taken seriously.

You post like a sock of JoeB131, but your comments are even more hysterical, more deranged.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Calling Commentary "a Jew hating,...magazine" means that you do not need to be taken seriously.

Well if you want to sneak off under pressure, under the weight of facts, I understand.

You post like a sock of JoeB131, but your comments are even more hysterical, more deranged.

Zionists were killing non-Zionist Jews in Palestine years before 1948. The Zionists are extremist nationalists and will stop at nothing to get their way. Here's an article from that very magazine too that attacks and discredits Jews.

These Zionist are fanatical nationalists first and Jews second and that magazine like so many, is simply Zionist propaganda, an Israeli mouthpiece supporting an ideology that originated in Nazi Germany not Jewish culture.

 

[Hector12]

Zionists killed non-Zionist Jews in Palestine years before 1948. The Zionists are extremist nationalists and will stop at nothing to get their way. Here's an article from that very magazine too that attacks and discredits Jews.

These Zionist are fanatical nationalists first and Jews second and that magazine like so many, is simply Zionist propaganda.

Anyone who has read the Old Testament and the Apocrypha, like I have in several English translations including the Jewish Study Bible, knows that for the Jew possession of the land of Israel is as important as personal salvation is for Christians.

All the Zionists want is a small sliver of land boarding the Mediterranean that Jews can call their own.

I am proud to call myself a Christian Zionist.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Anyone who has read the Old Testament and the Apocrypha, like I have in several English translations including the Jewish Study Bible, knows that for the Jew possession of the land of Israel is as important as personal salvation is for Christians.

That depends on one's interpretation of what one reads, all scripture is interpreted, Christ revealed that to us.

All the Zionists want is a small sliver of land boarding the Mediterranean that Jews can call their own.

Is that so.

I am proud to call myself a Christian Zionist.

You're not a Christian though nor do you know what a Jew is and pride has no place in our lives, it puffs up - but you know all this, as you said, you've "read" the Old Testament.

 

[Hector12]

You're not a Christian though nor do you know what a Jew is and pride has no place in our lives, it puffs up - but you know all this, as you said, you've "read" the Old Testament.

The Epistle of St. Paul to the Romans: "But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile."

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

The Epistle of St. Paul to the Romans: "But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile."

If only you understood what it was saying...

 

[Hector12]

If only you understood what it was saying...

Have you read the Bible from cover to cover, including the Apocrypha?

Have you read Biblical Exegesis?

I have.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Have you read the Bible from cover to cover, including the Apocrypha?

God reveals everything, we can learn nothing of spiritual knowledge on our own. God reveals wisdom to us over our lifetime. The Pharisees too had read the Tanakh from cover to cover yet never understood it, Jesus told them this but they did not believe him and they tried to kill him.

Isaiah 28:10 - For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

Have you read Biblical Exegesis?

Yes I have, I have a library and many books on this subject.

I have.

But you don't know what a Jew is. That's because God has not revealed it to you yet, you can see only earthly things. Scripture states very clearly what a "Jew" is but you don't know, it is hidden, all God's spiritual knowledge is hidden from each of us until a time of his choosing.

 

[Shusha]

Wrong! You are the epitome of evil!

This is a war crime, asshole!

With Israel's Move to Ban UNRWA, 'A New Way Has Been Found to Kill Children' | Common Dreams

"It'll likely see the collapse of the humanitarian system in Gaza," warned a spokesperson for the U.N. Children's Fund.

www.commondreams.org

It is not a war crime to refuse to cooperate with a terrorist organization. Other organizations exist which can provide humanitarian services in Gaza in the short term.

The article is another example of the outright falsehoods and exaggerations which plague discourse on the anti-Israel side. Claiming Israel has found a "new way to kill children" is demonizing and implying a specific intent where there is none.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

It is not a war crime to refuse to cooperate with a terrorist organization. Other organizations exist which can provide humanitarian services in Gaza in the short term.

It is if it's not a terrorist organization.

The article is another example of the outright falsehoods and exaggerations which plague discourse on the anti-Israel side. Claiming Israel has found a "new way to kill children" is demonizing and implying a specific intent where there is none.

 

[Billo_Really]

Palestinian acts of terrorism are war crimes. Israeli responses are legitimate acts of self defense.

An occupational force cannot claim self defense.

 

[Billo_Really]

It is not a war crime to refuse to cooperate with a terrorist organization. Other organizations exist which can provide humanitarian services in Gaza in the short term.

The article is another example of the outright falsehoods and exaggerations which plague discourse on the anti-Israel side. Claiming Israel has found a "new way to kill children" is demonizing and implying a specific intent where there is none.

The UN is a terrorist organization?

Fuck you!

 

[Shusha]

It is if it's not a terrorist organization.

Still not a war crime. Also, it very much is an organization too closely tied to terrorism to be allowed to continue to operate in Israel. It presents a security risk to Israel.

 

[Shusha]

The UN is a terrorist organization?

Fuck you!

No. UNRWA.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Still not a war crime. Also, it very much is an organization too closely tied to terrorism to be allowed to continue to operate in Israel. It presents a security risk to Israel.

It is because Israel is an occupying power and international law is very clear about the duties expected from an occupying power.

 

[Shusha]

An occupational force cannot claim self defense.

Another soundbyte that is frequently tossed around. An outright lie.

 

[Billo_Really]

No. UNRWA.

Fuck you!

They are NOT a terrorist organization!

You people are! Fuck you! Fuck your country! You go to hell!

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Another soundbyte that is frequently tossed around. An outright lie.

Who's authority do you invoke when you insist that Israel is not an occupying power? your own?

 

[Billo_Really]

Another soundbyte that is frequently tossed around. An outright lie.

An occupational force cannot claim self defense. That is a matter of international law.

An occupying power cannot claim self-defence according to the UN charter. Occupation Law prohibits an occupying power from initiating armed force against its occupied territory.