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holy crap it didn't pay well, it paid freaking pennies per.When I was a teen, I picked strawberries one summer, off of Gale in city of Industry. It was back breaking, bending over all day, but it paid really well. I agree that there are a lot of Americans who would do these jobs.
Horrible job. Wish my kids would do it. My brother and sister did. I did too..for one day.
In 1975, I could make a $100 a week. We got $2 a flat, and picking 50 flats in a week was easy to do. It was WAY more than any of my friends working minimum wage jobs were making. $1.65 X 40 was only $66, and none of them were getting 40 hours. It was good work for a teen, HARD work, but good pay.
Pretty soon here, we're gonna go out and pick for $1 a flat. $100 a week in 1975 wasn't too bad.
The sad thing is I bet they don't pay the illegals more than $5 a flat in present day. $250 a week now isn't shit.
We're gonna be paying a $1 per flat.They're about $11-$12 right now.
The price is right.
holy crap it didn't pay well, it paid freaking pennies per.
Horrible job. Wish my kids would do it. My brother and sister did. I did too..for one day.
In 1975, I could make a $100 a week. We got $2 a flat, and picking 50 flats in a week was easy to do. It was WAY more than any of my friends working minimum wage jobs were making. $1.65 X 40 was only $66, and none of them were getting 40 hours. It was good work for a teen, HARD work, but good pay.
Pretty soon here, we're gonna go out and pick for $1 a flat. $100 a week in 1975 wasn't too bad.
The sad thing is I bet they don't pay the illegals more than $5 a flat in present day. $250 a week now isn't shit.
We're gonna be paying a $1 per flat.
The price is right.
At $12 I would bet they pay the pickers about $5 - still piece work as independent contractors. (that was always the game.) But that is a really pathetic amount.
Well we all know who is the more educated of the two of us. The one who doesn't use the sentence "idiot you talk me too much" between the two of us.This is the reason I want to debate live and see who is more educated between the two of us.
Who is we?
All you've proven is that you are a bastard animal and a coward.
Yeah, sure. And not grinding babies up in wood chippers or pushing old ladies down stairs. Come one man, you need more emotion to prove your case!Lefty policies such as? You mean paying a decent wage?Not true. The 80s had record growth with Reagan's policies. He proved liberals were wrong all along. Rather than accept reality liberals lie about it. Leftist policies have harmed the economy and keep the middle class pretty much flat since then.
Liberals do not understand that business drives the economy. The reason they don't understand it is that capitalism has been demonized in their minds as a great evil instead of the great economic liberator it is.
I invite you to embrace reality the way it is, grow up and join the solution.
See, you can't even have an honest conversation. You said "Leftist policies have harmed the economy" and when I asked you what those policies were you say abortion? What a fucking intellectually dishonest fuck you must be.
So I'll ask again, what liberal policies harmed the economy? I'll tell you since you won't answer honestly. You must be experiencing cognitive dissonance here. The answer is, "paying American workers a decent wage". That was the policy that got corporations to send jobs to Mexico and China.
But today you cons are anti sending jobs overseas. Now you want to bring jobs back home. But you also claim you want to do it to raise wages. I don't believe that for a second. Or maybe you do want to raise wages, a couple bucks an hour. But not what those jobs paid when you sent them overseas.
So its funny you cons claim you are going to make America great again. Maybe great but not as great as it was when 35% of our workforce was unionized. That's when the middle class was it's strongest.
And eventually even if you raise wages a couple bucks I see you ultimately cutting wages by outsourcing jobs to subcontractors. Yea that's right. I see your long term plans even before you do.
I could make this a 10 page post if I go too deep...I'll save everybody that and talk in short.
The lower / middle class wage issue is really a population issue, a simple supply vs. demand dynamic. Yep, too many uneducated, unqualified, low iQ citizens and not enough jobs offering a "living wage" to that demographic. How many wage paying companies do you know that are looking to hire stupid people with no communication skills and who can barely speak the native language....ONLY WALMART!
35-40 year old adults with multiple children are trying to make burger flipping a career gig. This problem is deeply rooted and I don't believe the government can wave a magic wand and fix it.
I believe government on both sides has done a shit-ton over the years attempting to right the ship. They've created and made one free resource after the next available in an attempt to develop a higher grade human capable of excelling in the job market and nothing has worked. At the end of the day I believe the real problem is we have millions upon millions of very low grade citizens who have conceded to mediocrity and even poverty. These are people who are comfortable struggling and though they say they want and need more they are not actually willing to do more to get it. The real problem doesn't lie within government, the real issue lies in the homes across America and in the laps of shitty parents who aren't assisting in developing good quality, motivated adults.
"You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink"
"You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear"
This is why I tell poor people to stop having so many kids they can't afford to raise properly. But instead they keep pumping them out and hoping that the coal mining jobs come back so when their hick kid is 18 he can go work in the coal mines too. Not happening. Maybe the coal miner shouldn't have any kids. Or if he has kids only have one.
But then that's why they say we need immigrants. We aren't having enough kids.
This is why you don't want all the money in the hands of the rich/few. If the middle class isn't making enough that it makes sense to have kids, they won't. Looks like we need to do some social engineering and spread some of that wealth out.
Instead of the CEO making $50 million and his employees make $30K maybe he has to make $25 million and his employees get $60K. But you would claim that is stealing from them. I disagree.
Well we all know who is the more educated of the two of us. The one who doesn't use the sentence "idiot you talk me too much" between the two of us.This is the reason I want to debate live and see who is more educated between the two of us.
Who is we?
All you've proven is that you are a bastard animal and a coward.
Yeah, sure. And not grinding babies up in wood chippers or pushing old ladies down stairs. Come one man, you need more emotion to prove your case!Lefty policies such as? You mean paying a decent wage?
See, you can't even have an honest conversation. You said "Leftist policies have harmed the economy" and when I asked you what those policies were you say abortion? What a fucking intellectually dishonest fuck you must be.
So I'll ask again, what liberal policies harmed the economy? I'll tell you since you won't answer honestly. You must be experiencing cognitive dissonance here. The answer is, "paying American workers a decent wage". That was the policy that got corporations to send jobs to Mexico and China.
But today you cons are anti sending jobs overseas. Now you want to bring jobs back home. But you also claim you want to do it to raise wages. I don't believe that for a second. Or maybe you do want to raise wages, a couple bucks an hour. But not what those jobs paid when you sent them overseas.
So its funny you cons claim you are going to make America great again. Maybe great but not as great as it was when 35% of our workforce was unionized. That's when the middle class was it's strongest.
And eventually even if you raise wages a couple bucks I see you ultimately cutting wages by outsourcing jobs to subcontractors. Yea that's right. I see your long term plans even before you do.
I could make this a 10 page post if I go too deep...I'll save everybody that and talk in short.
The lower / middle class wage issue is really a population issue, a simple supply vs. demand dynamic. Yep, too many uneducated, unqualified, low iQ citizens and not enough jobs offering a "living wage" to that demographic. How many wage paying companies do you know that are looking to hire stupid people with no communication skills and who can barely speak the native language....ONLY WALMART!
35-40 year old adults with multiple children are trying to make burger flipping a career gig. This problem is deeply rooted and I don't believe the government can wave a magic wand and fix it.
I believe government on both sides has done a shit-ton over the years attempting to right the ship. They've created and made one free resource after the next available in an attempt to develop a higher grade human capable of excelling in the job market and nothing has worked. At the end of the day I believe the real problem is we have millions upon millions of very low grade citizens who have conceded to mediocrity and even poverty. These are people who are comfortable struggling and though they say they want and need more they are not actually willing to do more to get it. The real problem doesn't lie within government, the real issue lies in the homes across America and in the laps of shitty parents who aren't assisting in developing good quality, motivated adults.
"You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink"
"You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear"
This is why I tell poor people to stop having so many kids they can't afford to raise properly. But instead they keep pumping them out and hoping that the coal mining jobs come back so when their hick kid is 18 he can go work in the coal mines too. Not happening. Maybe the coal miner shouldn't have any kids. Or if he has kids only have one.
But then that's why they say we need immigrants. We aren't having enough kids.
This is why you don't want all the money in the hands of the rich/few. If the middle class isn't making enough that it makes sense to have kids, they won't. Looks like we need to do some social engineering and spread some of that wealth out.
Instead of the CEO making $50 million and his employees make $30K maybe he has to make $25 million and his employees get $60K. But you would claim that is stealing from them. I disagree.
I posted this another active thread here...Kinda summarizes how I really feel without any PC coating.
"Should The Rich Be Required To Pay Higher Taxes In the US?"
NO....why you ask? (oh please ask why)
While all you broke low-life bastards were fucking around ditching school, not trying in school, dropping out and smoking weed I was busting my ass playing football, wrestling, taking all honors courses and studying until 2-3am every night. And where were all you noble, giving mother fuckers when I had to pony up tuition for my high dollar degree and work two or three jobs to cover it. Go fuck yourselves and pave your own path...stop riding my back and others like me.
None of this makes any sense to you bottom feeding leeches does it?
Are you always this dramatic? Trust me, you cons will lose power and we'll be back in charge and you'll be crying socialism again one day. Or do you think like we thought in 2006 when Pelosi & Reed took over and then in 2008 when Obama took over that we would rule forever? LOLNo he's your boogyman.[
The only people who ever bring up Soros are RWNJ's. Is that you?
Are you instructed on the hate sites not to mention your Fuhrer?
Your Fuhrer is a clear and present danger to the Constitutional Republic, as are you, his jackbooted brown shirts. You've suffered a severe blow in your war to end this nation. Here's to hoping you never recover.
Are you always this dramatic? Trust me, you cons will lose power and we'll be back in charge and you'll be crying socialism again one day. Or do you think like we thought in 2006 when Pelosi & Reed took over and then in 2008 when Obama took over that we would rule forever? LOLNo he's your boogyman.[
The only people who ever bring up Soros are RWNJ's. Is that you?
Are you instructed on the hate sites not to mention your Fuhrer?
Your Fuhrer is a clear and present danger to the Constitutional Republic, as are you, his jackbooted brown shirts. You've suffered a severe blow in your war to end this nation. Here's to hoping you never recover.
Or when Bush Delay and Hastert controlled all three houses. LOL. Where's Hastert now? Why is he in prison? You sick fucking conservative bastards.
After Comments On Pedophilia, Breitbart Editor Milo Yiannopoulos Resigns
Haaahhaaaaha
Are you always this dramatic? Trust me, you cons will lose power and we'll be back in charge and you'll be crying socialism again one day. Or do you think like we thought in 2006 when Pelosi & Reed took over and then in 2008 when Obama took over that we would rule forever? LOLNo he's your boogyman.[
The only people who ever bring up Soros are RWNJ's. Is that you?
Are you instructed on the hate sites not to mention your Fuhrer?
Your Fuhrer is a clear and present danger to the Constitutional Republic, as are you, his jackbooted brown shirts. You've suffered a severe blow in your war to end this nation. Here's to hoping you never recover.
Or when Bush Delay and Hastert controlled all three houses. LOL. Where's Hastert now? Why is he in prison? You sick fucking conservative bastards.
After Comments On Pedophilia, Breitbart Editor Milo Yiannopoulos Resigns
Haaahhaaaaha
That may happen. The riotous "hearts and minds" outreach of the DNC is definitely delaying that here lately.
The DNC's position is very precarious at the moment.
You hate people who work hard but don't benefit from that work.Well we all know who is the more educated of the two of us. The one who doesn't use the sentence "idiot you talk me too much" between the two of us.
Who is we?
All you've proven is that you are a bastard animal and a coward.
Yeah, sure. And not grinding babies up in wood chippers or pushing old ladies down stairs. Come one man, you need more emotion to prove your case!
See, you can't even have an honest conversation. You said "Leftist policies have harmed the economy" and when I asked you what those policies were you say abortion? What a fucking intellectually dishonest fuck you must be.
So I'll ask again, what liberal policies harmed the economy? I'll tell you since you won't answer honestly. You must be experiencing cognitive dissonance here. The answer is, "paying American workers a decent wage". That was the policy that got corporations to send jobs to Mexico and China.
But today you cons are anti sending jobs overseas. Now you want to bring jobs back home. But you also claim you want to do it to raise wages. I don't believe that for a second. Or maybe you do want to raise wages, a couple bucks an hour. But not what those jobs paid when you sent them overseas.
So its funny you cons claim you are going to make America great again. Maybe great but not as great as it was when 35% of our workforce was unionized. That's when the middle class was it's strongest.
And eventually even if you raise wages a couple bucks I see you ultimately cutting wages by outsourcing jobs to subcontractors. Yea that's right. I see your long term plans even before you do.
I could make this a 10 page post if I go too deep...I'll save everybody that and talk in short.
The lower / middle class wage issue is really a population issue, a simple supply vs. demand dynamic. Yep, too many uneducated, unqualified, low iQ citizens and not enough jobs offering a "living wage" to that demographic. How many wage paying companies do you know that are looking to hire stupid people with no communication skills and who can barely speak the native language....ONLY WALMART!
35-40 year old adults with multiple children are trying to make burger flipping a career gig. This problem is deeply rooted and I don't believe the government can wave a magic wand and fix it.
I believe government on both sides has done a shit-ton over the years attempting to right the ship. They've created and made one free resource after the next available in an attempt to develop a higher grade human capable of excelling in the job market and nothing has worked. At the end of the day I believe the real problem is we have millions upon millions of very low grade citizens who have conceded to mediocrity and even poverty. These are people who are comfortable struggling and though they say they want and need more they are not actually willing to do more to get it. The real problem doesn't lie within government, the real issue lies in the homes across America and in the laps of shitty parents who aren't assisting in developing good quality, motivated adults.
"You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink"
"You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear"
This is why I tell poor people to stop having so many kids they can't afford to raise properly. But instead they keep pumping them out and hoping that the coal mining jobs come back so when their hick kid is 18 he can go work in the coal mines too. Not happening. Maybe the coal miner shouldn't have any kids. Or if he has kids only have one.
But then that's why they say we need immigrants. We aren't having enough kids.
This is why you don't want all the money in the hands of the rich/few. If the middle class isn't making enough that it makes sense to have kids, they won't. Looks like we need to do some social engineering and spread some of that wealth out.
Instead of the CEO making $50 million and his employees make $30K maybe he has to make $25 million and his employees get $60K. But you would claim that is stealing from them. I disagree.
I posted this another active thread here...Kinda summarizes how I really feel without any PC coating.
"Should The Rich Be Required To Pay Higher Taxes In the US?"
NO....why you ask? (oh please ask why)
While all you broke low-life bastards were fucking around ditching school, not trying in school, dropping out and smoking weed I was busting my ass playing football, wrestling, taking all honors courses and studying until 2-3am every night. And where were all you noble, giving mother fuckers when I had to pony up tuition for my high dollar degree and work two or three jobs to cover it. Go fuck yourselves and pave your own path...stop riding my back and others like me.
None of this makes any sense to you bottom feeding leeches does it?
Nope, it doesn't. They hate people who work hard and have benefited from it.
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Are you always this dramatic? Trust me, you cons will lose power and we'll be back in charge and you'll be crying socialism again one day. Or do you think like we thought in 2006 when Pelosi & Reed took over and then in 2008 when Obama took over that we would rule forever? LOL
Or when Bush Delay and Hastert controlled all three houses. LOL. Where's Hastert now? Why is he in prison? You sick fucking conservative bastards.
After Comments On Pedophilia, Breitbart Editor Milo Yiannopoulos Resigns
Haaahhaaaaha
Are you always this dramatic? Trust me, you cons will lose power and we'll be back in charge and you'll be crying socialism again one day. Or do you think like we thought in 2006 when Pelosi & Reed took over and then in 2008 when Obama took over that we would rule forever? LOLNo he's your boogyman.Are you instructed on the hate sites not to mention your Fuhrer?
Your Fuhrer is a clear and present danger to the Constitutional Republic, as are you, his jackbooted brown shirts. You've suffered a severe blow in your war to end this nation. Here's to hoping you never recover.
Or when Bush Delay and Hastert controlled all three houses. LOL. Where's Hastert now? Why is he in prison? You sick fucking conservative bastards.
After Comments On Pedophilia, Breitbart Editor Milo Yiannopoulos Resigns
Haaahhaaaaha
That may happen. The riotous "hearts and minds" outreach of the DNC is definitely delaying that here lately.
The DNC's position is very precarious at the moment.
Here is what I predict. One way Republicans will lose favor with voters is global warming. They will prove to be anti science because science and religion don't mix and corporations don't like science saying they have to go green. So we will run scientists.
Thanks to Trump, Scientists Are Planning to Run for Office
And young voters will not vote for Republicans if they are destroying the planet for $, especially if Republicans/Corporations aren't sharing the wealth, which they never do. Liberals always have to force/pressure them to do the right thing. It's just how they role.
Jason Chaffetz has no response for a little girl who asked if he believes in science
You are a conspiracy theorist nutjob. I produced no list. I simply brought up Hastert. Did Soros make Hastert molest boys? And I mentioned your new conservative hero Milo. Did Soros make him a pedophile too? You're a nut.[
Are you always this dramatic? Trust me, you cons will lose power and we'll be back in charge and you'll be crying socialism again one day. Or do you think like we thought in 2006 when Pelosi & Reed took over and then in 2008 when Obama took over that we would rule forever? LOL
Or when Bush Delay and Hastert controlled all three houses. LOL. Where's Hastert now? Why is he in prison? You sick fucking conservative bastards.
After Comments On Pedophilia, Breitbart Editor Milo Yiannopoulos Resigns
Haaahhaaaaha
Ironic that you whine because I identified your Fuhrer, then you turn right around and post the Soros paid for and produced hit list of Republican sex scandals.
Oh, you didn't grasp that the list you are using is one originally compiled by democrat hero, pornographer and convicted rapist Larry Flynt? And that the whole thing was financed by George Soros?
Soros dictates what you think, and like a good little monkey you fling the shit he hands you - as you did here.
Are you always this dramatic? Trust me, you cons will lose power and we'll be back in charge and you'll be crying socialism again one day. Or do you think like we thought in 2006 when Pelosi & Reed took over and then in 2008 when Obama took over that we would rule forever? LOLNo he's your boogyman.
Your Fuhrer is a clear and present danger to the Constitutional Republic, as are you, his jackbooted brown shirts. You've suffered a severe blow in your war to end this nation. Here's to hoping you never recover.
Or when Bush Delay and Hastert controlled all three houses. LOL. Where's Hastert now? Why is he in prison? You sick fucking conservative bastards.
After Comments On Pedophilia, Breitbart Editor Milo Yiannopoulos Resigns
Haaahhaaaaha
That may happen. The riotous "hearts and minds" outreach of the DNC is definitely delaying that here lately.
The DNC's position is very precarious at the moment.
Here is what I predict. One way Republicans will lose favor with voters is global warming. They will prove to be anti science because science and religion don't mix and corporations don't like science saying they have to go green. So we will run scientists.
Thanks to Trump, Scientists Are Planning to Run for Office
And young voters will not vote for Republicans if they are destroying the planet for $, especially if Republicans/Corporations aren't sharing the wealth, which they never do. Liberals always have to force/pressure them to do the right thing. It's just how they role.
Jason Chaffetz has no response for a little girl who asked if he believes in science
Ooook. I don't see global warming as a big topic. I predict your prediction fails.
Are you always this dramatic? Trust me, you cons will lose power and we'll be back in charge and you'll be crying socialism again one day. Or do you think like we thought in 2006 when Pelosi & Reed took over and then in 2008 when Obama took over that we would rule forever? LOLYour Fuhrer is a clear and present danger to the Constitutional Republic, as are you, his jackbooted brown shirts. You've suffered a severe blow in your war to end this nation. Here's to hoping you never recover.
Or when Bush Delay and Hastert controlled all three houses. LOL. Where's Hastert now? Why is he in prison? You sick fucking conservative bastards.
After Comments On Pedophilia, Breitbart Editor Milo Yiannopoulos Resigns
Haaahhaaaaha
That may happen. The riotous "hearts and minds" outreach of the DNC is definitely delaying that here lately.
The DNC's position is very precarious at the moment.
Here is what I predict. One way Republicans will lose favor with voters is global warming. They will prove to be anti science because science and religion don't mix and corporations don't like science saying they have to go green. So we will run scientists.
Thanks to Trump, Scientists Are Planning to Run for Office
And young voters will not vote for Republicans if they are destroying the planet for $, especially if Republicans/Corporations aren't sharing the wealth, which they never do. Liberals always have to force/pressure them to do the right thing. It's just how they role.
Jason Chaffetz has no response for a little girl who asked if he believes in science
Ooook. I don't see global warming as a big topic. I predict your prediction fails.
Meanwhile it's February and 70 degrees in Michigan. LOL.
And reap 99% of the benefits .I just hope the rich don't do what they usually do which is shift the tax burden more onto the middle class because they feel they pay too much in taxes not us.This really isn't complicated...it's time government demands better of low grade humans and stops stealing from the higher grade to fund the trash among us.
/---- The rich already pay the bulk of the taxes moron.
Are you always this dramatic? Trust me, you cons will lose power and we'll be back in charge and you'll be crying socialism again one day. Or do you think like we thought in 2006 when Pelosi & Reed took over and then in 2008 when Obama took over that we would rule forever? LOLNo he's your boogyman.Are you instructed on the hate sites not to mention your Fuhrer?
Your Fuhrer is a clear and present danger to the Constitutional Republic, as are you, his jackbooted brown shirts. You've suffered a severe blow in your war to end this nation. Here's to hoping you never recover.
Or when Bush Delay and Hastert controlled all three houses. LOL. Where's Hastert now? Why is he in prison? You sick fucking conservative bastards.
After Comments On Pedophilia, Breitbart Editor Milo Yiannopoulos Resigns
Haaahhaaaaha
That may happen. The riotous "hearts and minds" outreach of the DNC is definitely delaying that here lately.
The DNC's position is very precarious at the moment.
Here is what I predict. One way Republicans will lose favor with voters is global warming. They will prove to be anti science because science and religion don't mix and corporations don't like science saying they have to go green. So we will run scientists.
Thanks to Trump, Scientists Are Planning to Run for Office
And young voters will not vote for Republicans if they are destroying the planet for $, especially if Republicans/Corporations aren't sharing the wealth, which they never do. Liberals always have to force/pressure them to do the right thing. It's just how they role.
Jason Chaffetz has no response for a little girl who asked if he believes in science
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And it's 72 in Atlanta, what's your point? I bet Michigan freezes and has more snow before winter's over.
Over 200,000 homebuilder construction jobs unfilled, and the GOP wants to deport another 12 million low wage earners. But, the GOP claims that all the jobs are filled by illegal immigrants, right? Well, Americans, don't break you necks rushing down to your local homebuilder to apply! Before Trump is through, there will be double that amount of jobs unfilled.
Number of Unfilled Construction Sector Jobs Keeps Rising
Over 200,000 homebuilder construction jobs unfilled, and the GOP wants to deport another 12 million low wage earners. But, the GOP claims that all the jobs are filled by illegal immigrants, right? Well, Americans, don't break you necks rushing down to your local homebuilder to apply! Before Trump is through, there will be double that amount of jobs unfilled.
Number of Unfilled Construction Sector Jobs Keeps Rising
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And it's 72 in Atlanta, what's your point? I bet Michigan freezes and has more snow before winter's over.
Leftist can't grasp the difference between weather and climate.
They also think that "science" is a religion to be believed based on dogma, rather than a method of discovery. Science is no more to be "believed in" than a crow bar. It is a tool that is used, a method of logically researching questions and arriving at plausible answers. Anyone who 'believes in science" is an ignorant fool who has no grasp at all of what science is and is used for.
A crow bar is a great tool, but really stupid to have as a religion.
