Guns and Knives

[skookerasbil]

Gun grabbers have such a profound inability to connect the dots on this gun stuff...........

People familiar with weapons will recognize this beauty that I have owned for about 4 years now......a Mossberg 930.......imagine if Paddock had lugged about 25 of these up there with Choate extensions and slugs..........

9 Shot Mossberg 930 SPX Shotgun Shooting


Just sayin'..........to all the meatheads being OCD about the AR-15's

 

[Marion Morrison]

1% of all murder occurs in mass shooting events why is it that you think that 1% is more important than the 99% who get murdered outside of mass shootings?

I think ALL the killings are a problem (and are related). You don't think there's any problem. BIG difference.

I said murders committed in mass killings aren't a problem since it is only 1% of all murder.

The thing is people have always committed murder and people will always commit murder and quite frankly nothing you can do will ever stop people from committing murder.

Knowing the above statement is irrefutable as gravity I would rather err on the side of letting people protect themselves with the best tool available for self defense and that tool is a firearm.

Never said I wanted to ban all firearms. Please try to keep up.

And the most, most recent lie about not wanting to ban guns....

you morons say...hey, those AR-15s are dangerous, we need to ban those...but don't worry, we don't want to ban all guns....

Then....

Democrats' New 'Assault Weapons' Bill Would Ban the GLOCK 17, More Semi-Auto Pistols - The Truth About Guns

The text of Senator Dianne Feinstein’s assault rifle ban bill is now available on her website and, contra Nick’s expectations, it isn’t simply a copy-and-paste re-run of the failed Clinton era assault rifle ban language. It’s worse. Much worse.

How bad is it? In the first four pages, it bans the popular GLOCK 17 9mm pistol, a gun that’s commonly used for shooting sports and personal self defense by hundreds of thousands of Americans.

That’s right, one of the most reliable, commonly-used pistols in the US, from one of the most popular firearms manufacturers in the world is now on the chopping block.

But it’s not just the G17. The Beretta 92, the CZ75, and the HK VP70 would also be forbidden. Heck, even the Luger P08 would be out.

Why? Because among the many things the bill prohibits — from the “CZ Scorpion Pistol” [sic], which it somehow defines as an “AK” to the jihad it wages against barrel shrouds that keep people from injuring themselves — the senior Senator from California wants to ban any “semiautomatic versions of an automatic firearm.” (See page 4 of the bill.)

That means that if a manufacturer ever made a fully-automatic version of a semi-automatic pistol (i.e. the GLOCK 18, a select fire version of the G17), the semi-auto gun would be verboten. Feinstein’s bill, if passed, would classify these guns as a “semiautomatic assault weapons” and, therefore, outlaw them.

Well, I suppose if you are too much of a little girl to handle a revolver, then you should not have a gun. LOL

Because powder burns on your fingers feel good, huh?

That being said, I want a revolver.

Hammer on empty chamber, yet ready to fire. Powder burned fingers are a lot better than using a gun that sounds like lightning in the house.

Or an automatic with one in the chamber, I don't trust that.

Yeah, I got one around, but it stays put. If I had it on me, not comfortable with one in the chamber.

 

[skookerasbil]

Oh and hellooooooooooooo................

New York instituted the NYSAFE Act in 2013.........banned "assault weapons" ( the scary looking ones ).

How many people complied??

One in every 800 owners!!!

Low SAFE Act numbers hint at non-compliance in New York

 

[2aguy]

How many people would the shooter in Vegas have killed if he only had a knife?

s0n.........do you know how many guns there are in the US?

Almost 350 million!!

Whoever wants to really go get a semiauto rifle can do it in a day or two........duh.......well assuming they have a little cash!

I saw one count that put it closer to 600 million...

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

People that want to kill other people will find a weapon to use. Do away with guns...the criminals go to knives. The choice of weapons is not the problem. It is anger, hatred or complete lack of civility that cues the killer.

I want to be able to say, after being accosted by a knife-wielding criminal..."The stupid bastard brought a knife to a gunfight!"

I want to be able to say, after being accosted by a gun-wielding criminal..."The stupid bastard missed...I didn't!"

I carry 24/7!


Germany: Spike in Stabbings

A recent surge in stabbings and knife-related violence across Germany is drawing renewed attention to the deteriorating security situation there since Chancellor Angela Merkel's 2015 decision to allow in more than a million migrants from Africa, Asia and the Middle East.

In recent months, people armed with knives, axes and machetes have brought devastation to all of Germany's 16 federal states. Knives have been used not only not only to carry out jihadist attacks, but also to commit homicides, robberies, home invasions, sexual assaults, honor killings and many other types of violent crime.

This fails as the moronic ‘guns don’t kill people, people kill people’ fallacy.

That criminals don’t obey gun laws is not ‘justification’ for getting rid of firearm regulatory measures – the notion is just as idiotic as advocating doing away with laws against murder because criminals continue to commit murder.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Gun grabbers have such a profound inability to connect the dots on this gun stuff...........

People familiar with weapons will recognize this beauty that I have owned for about 4 years now......a Mossberg 930.......imagine if Paddock had lugged about 25 of these up there with Choate extensions and slugs..........

9 Shot Mossberg 930 SPX Shotgun Shooting


Just sayin'..........to all the meatheads being OCD about the AR-15's

There are no ‘gun grabbers’ that’s just another ridiculous rightwing lie.

No one wants to ‘take your guns.’

 

[Mudda]

See what I'm saying? Just nothing but nonsense out of your side's mouth all the time. I never said ban a;
Ya, no problem. Tell that to the 600 people who were shot in Vegas. Don't worry, I'll add you to the numbskull list. No problem.

1% of all murder occurs in mass shooting events why is it that you think that 1% is more important than the 99% who get murdered outside of mass shootings?

I think ALL the killings are a problem (and are related). You don't think there's any problem. BIG difference.

I said murders committed in mass killings aren't a problem since it is only 1% of all murder.

The thing is people have always committed murder and people will always commit murder and quite frankly nothing you can do will ever stop people from committing murder.

Knowing the above statement is irrefutable as gravity I would rather err on the side of letting people protect themselves with the best tool available for self defense and that tool is a firearm.

Never said I wanted to ban all firearms. Please try to keep up.

No just those you think are "assault weapons"

But since you don't know shit about guns you don't know that what you call an assault weapon is a plain old everyday semiautomatic that has been around since the 1860's

So you people start with guns that look like military weapons but aren't then you;ll move to all semiautomatic rifles then move to ban certain caliber rifles etc etc

Total myth, keep grasping it!

 

[Mudda]

See what I'm saying? Just nothing but nonsense out of your side's mouth all the time. I never said ban a;
Ya, no problem. Tell that to the 600 people who were shot in Vegas. Don't worry, I'll add you to the numbskull list. No problem.

600 people weren't shot in Vegas...a lot were, but a lot were also injured as they ran away, trampling each other, and other injuries...

With 2 rifles, and all the ammo he wanted, shooting at a tightly packed group of 22,000 people, with 11 minutes of shooting...he murdered 58.

The rental truck...in 5 minutes....murdered 89 and actually injured over 450.

And 100 million were killed in WWII. That makes mass shootings no problem, right?

Well....yes.....considering the German government told their people that turning in their guns and registering their hunting weapons would make them safer, and then the socialists used those lists, and murdered the disarmed people......yeah, shows that allowing the government to have all the guns is really fucking stupid.....considering the rest of Europe disarmed their people and were easily conquered by the German socialists...and then mass murdered....

Except...for the Swiss......they kept their fully automatic miitary rifles, and had 435,000 armed civilians with those rifles...and did not get invaded by the Germans....and did not hand over their people for the gas chambers.....

You left wingers don't pay attention to history, and then create points based on this lack of knowledge...

Must be why the US has so many guns deaths every year. Ya, it's me.

You know, I've given up hope that you'll ever say anything coherent. Problem is, a person like you is allowed to own guns.

Most gun deaths are suicides and suicide is not a crime

No so, plus you provided no link. Epic fail.

 

[Mudda]

How many people would the shooter in Vegas have killed if he only had a knife?

The same amount, he would have used a bomb. He had explosives.

Feel free to GFY with a cactus at your earliest convenience.

Sorry, but this thread is about stabbings vs guns. Please try to keep up.

Clown musings never stop. You don't have the ability to pour piss from a boot with directions on the heel.

Nothing coherent to add. Got it.

What should I add? Whatever i do add you the the other regressives will just lie and spin.

So you admit you have nothing. Good for you.

 

[Mudda]

How many people would the shooter in Vegas have killed if he only had a knife?

s0n.........do you know how many guns there are in the US?

Almost 350 million!!

Whoever wants to really go get a semiauto rifle can do it in a day or two........duh.......well assuming they have a little cash!

Not what we're talking about. Please try to keep up.

 

[Skull Pilot]

1% of all murder occurs in mass shooting events why is it that you think that 1% is more important than the 99% who get murdered outside of mass shootings?

I think ALL the killings are a problem (and are related). You don't think there's any problem. BIG difference.

I said murders committed in mass killings aren't a problem since it is only 1% of all murder.

The thing is people have always committed murder and people will always commit murder and quite frankly nothing you can do will ever stop people from committing murder.

Knowing the above statement is irrefutable as gravity I would rather err on the side of letting people protect themselves with the best tool available for self defense and that tool is a firearm.

Never said I wanted to ban all firearms. Please try to keep up.

No just those you think are "assault weapons"

But since you don't know shit about guns you don't know that what you call an assault weapon is a plain old everyday semiautomatic that has been around since the 1860's

So you people start with guns that look like military weapons but aren't then you;ll move to all semiautomatic rifles then move to ban certain caliber rifles etc etc

Total myth, keep grasping it!

Not a myth at all

have you heard the calls here for a total ban on ALL semiautomatics?

I have

 

[Skull Pilot]

600 people weren't shot in Vegas...a lot were, but a lot were also injured as they ran away, trampling each other, and other injuries...

With 2 rifles, and all the ammo he wanted, shooting at a tightly packed group of 22,000 people, with 11 minutes of shooting...he murdered 58.

The rental truck...in 5 minutes....murdered 89 and actually injured over 450.

And 100 million were killed in WWII. That makes mass shootings no problem, right?

Well....yes.....considering the German government told their people that turning in their guns and registering their hunting weapons would make them safer, and then the socialists used those lists, and murdered the disarmed people......yeah, shows that allowing the government to have all the guns is really fucking stupid.....considering the rest of Europe disarmed their people and were easily conquered by the German socialists...and then mass murdered....

Except...for the Swiss......they kept their fully automatic miitary rifles, and had 435,000 armed civilians with those rifles...and did not get invaded by the Germans....and did not hand over their people for the gas chambers.....

You left wingers don't pay attention to history, and then create points based on this lack of knowledge...

Must be why the US has so many guns deaths every year. Ya, it's me.

You know, I've given up hope that you'll ever say anything coherent. Problem is, a person like you is allowed to own guns.

Most gun deaths are suicides and suicide is not a crime

No so, plus you provided no link. Epic fail.

Here you go Fuck nut

Gun Deaths Are Mostly Suicides
63 Percent of US Gun Deaths Are Suicides
Suicides account for most gun deaths

 

[Mudda]

I think ALL the killings are a problem (and are related). You don't think there's any problem. BIG difference.

I said murders committed in mass killings aren't a problem since it is only 1% of all murder.

The thing is people have always committed murder and people will always commit murder and quite frankly nothing you can do will ever stop people from committing murder.

Knowing the above statement is irrefutable as gravity I would rather err on the side of letting people protect themselves with the best tool available for self defense and that tool is a firearm.

Never said I wanted to ban all firearms. Please try to keep up.

No just those you think are "assault weapons"

But since you don't know shit about guns you don't know that what you call an assault weapon is a plain old everyday semiautomatic that has been around since the 1860's

So you people start with guns that look like military weapons but aren't then you;ll move to all semiautomatic rifles then move to ban certain caliber rifles etc etc

Total myth, keep grasping it!

Not a myth at all

have you heard the calls here for a total ban on ALL semiautomatics?

I have

You just contradicted yourself, you have nothing to back up what you said previously except a "did you hear...?". Nice.

 

[Skull Pilot]

I said murders committed in mass killings aren't a problem since it is only 1% of all murder.

The thing is people have always committed murder and people will always commit murder and quite frankly nothing you can do will ever stop people from committing murder.

Knowing the above statement is irrefutable as gravity I would rather err on the side of letting people protect themselves with the best tool available for self defense and that tool is a firearm.

Never said I wanted to ban all firearms. Please try to keep up.

No just those you think are "assault weapons"

But since you don't know shit about guns you don't know that what you call an assault weapon is a plain old everyday semiautomatic that has been around since the 1860's

So you people start with guns that look like military weapons but aren't then you;ll move to all semiautomatic rifles then move to ban certain caliber rifles etc etc

Total myth, keep grasping it!

Not a myth at all

have you heard the calls here for a total ban on ALL semiautomatics?

I have

You just contradicted yourself, you have nothing to back up what you said previously except a "did you hear...?". Nice.

So you haven't seen any posts calling for the ban on all semiautomatic rifles here?

You need to keep up

but here you go again, Fuck Nut

A Semi-Automatic Handgun Ban Wouldn’t Stop Mass Shooters

From Georgia to California, Democratic legislators have introduced bills to ban all semi-automatic rifles or even all semi-automatics, period.

Read more at: A Semi-Automatic Handgun Ban Wouldn’t Stop Mass Shooters

 

[Mudda]

Never said I wanted to ban all firearms. Please try to keep up.

No just those you think are "assault weapons"

But since you don't know shit about guns you don't know that what you call an assault weapon is a plain old everyday semiautomatic that has been around since the 1860's

So you people start with guns that look like military weapons but aren't then you;ll move to all semiautomatic rifles then move to ban certain caliber rifles etc etc

Total myth, keep grasping it!

Not a myth at all

have you heard the calls here for a total ban on ALL semiautomatics?

I have

You just contradicted yourself, you have nothing to back up what you said previously except a "did you hear...?". Nice.

So you haven't seen any posts calling for the ban on all semiautomatic rifles here?

You need to keep up

but here you go again, Fuck Nut

A Semi-Automatic Handgun Ban Wouldn’t Stop Mass Shooters

From Georgia to California, Democratic legislators have introduced bills to ban all semi-automatic rifles or even all semi-automatics, period.

Read more at: A Semi-Automatic Handgun Ban Wouldn’t Stop Mass Shooters

Ok, thanks for the link, much better when you back up what you say. Still not a total ban like you said would be the direction things are going. But still good, one pro-any gun guy who isn't a complete lunatic in his responses.

 

[RealDave]

How many people would the shooter in Vegas have killed if he only had a knife?

The same amount, he would have used a bomb. He had explosives.

Feel free to GFY with a cactus at your earliest convenience.

I get it. He would have hidden in his hotel room and thrown these bombs into the crowd?

Maybe he had a knife with a couple hundred yard long blsde & stabbed people from his room?

You have no clue how valid or strong those "bombs" were & if he could deploy all or any of them.

The fact is he used semiautomatic weapons with large magazines & a bump stock. Only a fuckling moron would claim these had nothing to do with the death toll.

 

[miketx]

How many people would the shooter in Vegas have killed if he only had a knife?

The same amount, he would have used a bomb. He had explosives.

Feel free to GFY with a cactus at your earliest convenience.

I get it. He would have hidden in his hotel room and thrown these bombs into the crowd?

Maybe he had a knife with a couple hundred yard long blsde & stabbed people from his room?

You have no clue how valid or strong those "bombs" were & if he could deploy all or any of them.

The fact is he used semiautomatic weapons with large magazines & a bump stock. Only a fuckling moron would claim these had nothing to do with the death toll.

The death toll was accomplished by a madman. Most likely a "progressive" like you.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Never said I wanted to ban all firearms. Please try to keep up.

No just those you think are "assault weapons"

But since you don't know shit about guns you don't know that what you call an assault weapon is a plain old everyday semiautomatic that has been around since the 1860's

So you people start with guns that look like military weapons but aren't then you;ll move to all semiautomatic rifles then move to ban certain caliber rifles etc etc

Total myth, keep grasping it!

Not a myth at all

have you heard the calls here for a total ban on ALL semiautomatics?

I have

You just contradicted yourself, you have nothing to back up what you said previously except a "did you hear...?". Nice.

So you haven't seen any posts calling for the ban on all semiautomatic rifles here?

You need to keep up

but here you go again, Fuck Nut

A Semi-Automatic Handgun Ban Wouldn’t Stop Mass Shooters

From Georgia to California, Democratic legislators have introduced bills to ban all semi-automatic rifles or even all semi-automatics, period.

Read more at: A Semi-Automatic Handgun Ban Wouldn’t Stop Mass Shooters

And they're going to start getting dragged out of their offices and dealt with, too.

UnAmerican non-representing turd politicians.

 

[RealDave]

No just those you think are "assault weapons"

But since you don't know shit about guns you don't know that what you call an assault weapon is a plain old everyday semiautomatic that has been around since the 1860's

So you people start with guns that look like military weapons but aren't then you;ll move to all semiautomatic rifles then move to ban certain caliber rifles etc etc

Total myth, keep grasping it!

Not a myth at all

have you heard the calls here for a total ban on ALL semiautomatics?

I have

You just contradicted yourself, you have nothing to back up what you said previously except a "did you hear...?". Nice.

So you haven't seen any posts calling for the ban on all semiautomatic rifles here?

You need to keep up

but here you go again, Fuck Nut

A Semi-Automatic Handgun Ban Wouldn’t Stop Mass Shooters

From Georgia to California, Democratic legislators have introduced bills to ban all semi-automatic rifles or even all semi-automatics, period.

Read more at: A Semi-Automatic Handgun Ban Wouldn’t Stop Mass Shooters

And they're going to start getting dragged out of their offices and dealt with, too.

UnAmerican non-representing turd politicians.

You fucking idiots would read the fucking bill you would know that it does no ban all semi-automatic handguns.

stupid fuckers.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Total myth, keep grasping it!

Not a myth at all

have you heard the calls here for a total ban on ALL semiautomatics?

I have

You just contradicted yourself, you have nothing to back up what you said previously except a "did you hear...?". Nice.

So you haven't seen any posts calling for the ban on all semiautomatic rifles here?

You need to keep up

but here you go again, Fuck Nut

A Semi-Automatic Handgun Ban Wouldn’t Stop Mass Shooters

From Georgia to California, Democratic legislators have introduced bills to ban all semi-automatic rifles or even all semi-automatics, period.

Read more at: A Semi-Automatic Handgun Ban Wouldn’t Stop Mass Shooters

And they're going to start getting dragged out of their offices and dealt with, too.

UnAmerican non-representing turd politicians.

You fucking idiots would read the fucking bill you would know that it does no ban all semi-automatic handguns.

stupid fuckers.

It's going to fly like a lead Zeppelin, and whoever's behind it will be voted out next election, if not impeached for going against the Constitution prior.