Gun traffickers can pass any background check, they are not normal gun owners.....

2aguy

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Bulldog pretends to actually care about criminals using guns....all he really wants to do is ban and confiscate guns....he uses the red herring that normal people selling their personal guns are the main source of guns for criminals.....this is a lie......the guy on your block selling his old Glock to get the new one isn't the one supplying guns to criminals....

Gun traffickers are actual criminals dedicated to selling guns to criminals...like this woman...

The term “gun trafficking” gets an awful lot of play in the media these days. Mostly because it sounds really scary to a whole lot of people.
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A Philadelphia woman has admitted to charges related to the illegal purchase of guns for a gun trafficking organization that operated in Montgomery, Berks, Bucks, Lancaster and Philadelphia counties.
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Williams was among 14 people charged in February 2021 for their roles in the multi-county gun trafficking organization.

At the time of the arrests, Montgomery County District Attorney Kevin R. Steele alleged the network illegally obtained and resold a total of 31 firearms using straw purchase schemes in the five-county area, putting “guns in the hands of people that are not allowed by law to buy their own guns.”
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Yet we need to understand that Williams here bought these guns by lying on federal forms with the intent of putting these guns in criminal hands. She meant to do just this.


So tell me, what laws would have stopped her?

Permits wouldn’t. She could just as easily have gotten a permit to purchase and still put guns in bad guys’ hands. Universal background checks wouldn’t since she passed the NICS check. So just what would stop this kind of gun trafficking from taking place?

 
Bulldog pretends to actually care about criminals using guns....all he really wants to do is ban and confiscate guns....he uses the red herring that normal people selling their personal guns are the main source of guns for criminals.....this is a lie......the guy on your block selling his old Glock to get the new one isn't the one supplying guns to criminals....

Gun traffickers are actual criminals dedicated to selling guns to criminals...like this woman...

The term “gun trafficking” gets an awful lot of play in the media these days. Mostly because it sounds really scary to a whole lot of people.
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A Philadelphia woman has admitted to charges related to the illegal purchase of guns for a gun trafficking organization that operated in Montgomery, Berks, Bucks, Lancaster and Philadelphia counties.
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Williams was among 14 people charged in February 2021 for their roles in the multi-county gun trafficking organization.


At the time of the arrests, Montgomery County District Attorney Kevin R. Steele alleged the network illegally obtained and resold a total of 31 firearms using straw purchase schemes in the five-county area, putting “guns in the hands of people that are not allowed by law to buy their own guns.”
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Yet we need to understand that Williams here bought these guns by lying on federal forms with the intent of putting these guns in criminal hands. She meant to do just this.


So tell me, what laws would have stopped her?

Permits wouldn’t. She could just as easily have gotten a permit to purchase and still put guns in bad guys’ hands. Universal background checks wouldn’t since she passed the NICS check. So just what would stop this kind of gun trafficking from taking place?

She got caught but by using straw purchases it is much easier to traffic in guns
 
She got caught but by using straw purchases it is much easier to traffic in guns
How can a legal citizen stay under the radar for long if the ATF&E do their job correctly? Because just like the other 3 letter government agencies they keep failing to do what they are supposed to do, protect citizens and their rights. Today they are just jackbooted thugs that do the bidding of the far left Socialists.
 
How can a legal citizen stay under the radar for long if the ATF&E do their job correctly? Because just like the other 3 letter government agencies they keep failing to do what they are supposed to do, protect citizens and their rights. Today they are just jackbooted thugs that do the bidding of the far left Socialists.
Man the socialists run everything
 
2A guy is beginning to separate out the good guns from the bad guns and the good shooters from the bad shooters.

But both shooters and guns are always good until they become bad. Today's angry citizen will be tomorrow's mass murderer. Today's innocent Saturday night Special will be tomorrow's murder weapon.

But why not turn to finding some answers to the obvious problem of innocent people being gunned down.
Can more guns really be an answer? Can more traffic on the streets mean less deaths in cars?

Something obviously needs to be done to control handguns. Starting a long process of making them all registered weapons could be one long term solution, but it would take close to a century to accomplish.

Solutions folks! Not the useless bickering and notions that the government is going to take them all away tomorrow.
 
This woman should be up on federal charges but she won't be because the federal government has no intention of enforcing the gun laws on the books
 
No matter what the regulatory requirements are if someone wants to get a firearm to commit a crime then one will be available.

A complete and total ban on firearms in the US would just drive the market underground, just like we see with drugs.

The problem lies withing the criminal behavior of mostly Black and Brown inner city thugs, druggies and gang members, who commit most of the gun crimes in the US and no additional law is going to stop that.
 
No matter what the regulatory requirements are if someone wants to get a firearm to commit a crime then one will be available.

A complete and total ban on firearms in the US would just drive the market underground, just like we see with drugs.

The problem lies withing the criminal behavior of mostly Black and Brown inner city thugs, druggies and gang members, who commit most of the gun crimes in the US and no additional law is going to stop that.
There is a middle path
 
There is a middle path


Yep.....

1) stop voting for democrats

2) by voting out democrats you will keep democrats from releasing violent gun offenders over and over again...

3) by voting out democrats, the democrats will stop attacking our police...

Then, when our police can do their jobs, and arrest violent gun offenders, the democrats won't be able to release them over and over again...

Crime problem solved
 
Yep.....

1) stop voting for democrats

2) by voting out democrats you will keep democrats from releasing violent gun offenders over and over again...

3) by voting out democrats, the democrats will stop attacking our police...

Then, when our police can do their jobs, and arrest violent gun offenders, the democrats won't be able to release them over and over again...

Crime problem solved
I see. So gop states have resolved this problem because states have jurisdiction and can pass laws that apply to the whole state.....right?
 
I see. So gop states have resolved this problem because states have jurisdiction and can pass laws that apply to the whole state.....right?


Nope...crime will always be with us.....our problem is that the democrat party, their beliefs, and the policies they create from their believes make crime and murder far worse.......

releasing violent criminals, refusing to arrest violent criminals, attacking the police.....this has led to an increase in crime since 2015....up to 2015 crime had been going down...that did not serve the purposes of the democrat party...
 
Nope...crime will always be with us.....our problem is that the democrat party, their beliefs, and the policies they create from their believes make crime and murder far worse.......

releasing violent criminals, refusing to arrest violent criminals, attacking the police.....this has led to an increase in crime since 2015....up to 2015 crime had been going down...that did not serve the purposes of the democrat party...
Yet the Republicans have complete control over several states and they are the states with the highest per capita gun deaths


Why?
 
Yet the Republicans have complete control over several states and they are the states with the highest per capita gun deaths


Why?


And that lie....do you guys get an email about that?

The Red States that you guys point out all have major cities under complete control of the democrat party.......the democrat party judges, prosecutors and politicians are releasing violent gun offenders, not charging the ones captured, and attacking the police to the point they can't do their jobs...

It is the democrat party controlled blue cities in those Red States that drive the crime and murder rates.......
 
And that lie....do you guys get an email about that?

The Red States that you guys point out all have major cities under complete control of the democrat party.......the democrat party judges, prosecutors and politicians are releasing violent gun offenders, not charging the ones captured, and attacking the police to the point they can't do their jobs...

It is the democrat party controlled blue cities in those Red States that drive the crime and murder rates.......
Read slowly. The gop controls the state and can and do make state laws that apply to all the judges and prosecutors. They have complete control within the state

So why?
 
Yet the Republicans have complete control over several states and they are the states with the highest per capita gun deaths


Why?
Is it because of this?

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Read slowly. The gop controls the state and can and do make state laws that apply to all the judges and prosecutors. They have complete control within the state

So why?


No....they can't......the decision to prosecute is in the hands of the State's Attorney, you dumb ass.....and the judge has discretion in bail, and sentencing.....you idiot....and when the democrat party in control of those cities attack the police and keep them from doing their jobs, they stop actually pro-actively going after criminals...which let's the criminals run free with guns in their pants, instead of forcing their baby mommas to carry their guns for them...
 

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