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Thinking of buying a gun for self-defense? Don’t do it
By Steven J. Sainsbury
During my more than 25 years as an emergency medicine physician, I treated hundreds of patients with gunshot wounds. I treated criminals who shot each other.
I treated gun owners who killed their family members in drunken rages.
I pronounced dead suicide victims who shot themselves with an easily accessible handgun in their home.
Yet in all those years of emergency medicine, I never treated a single patient who was shot by a law-abiding citizen in self-protection. Not one.
Multiple reputable studies and surveys bolster what I observed: Choosing to have a gun in your home, because it will keep you safe, is a myth. And a deadly one at that.
Yet surveys of gun owners show they consistently cite self-protection as the primary reason for 67% of gun purchases. Suppose you have the same fears and obtain a handgun. Which of these two scenarios is more likely?
Choice one: That gun you just bought will save your life from criminals or home invaders. This is known as defensive gun use.
Choice two: That gun will be used to kill you or a family member, whether that means the murder of a family member, an accidental shooting or suicide. It’s choice No. 2 by a landslide. In 2017, for example, according to FBI reports, for every justifiable homicide — a defensive gun-use death — there were 35 criminal homicides. And that doesn’t even include the thousands of deaths each year by suicide or the accidental deaths that occur when there is a handgun in the home. Where did this “a gun will keep you safe” myth originate? In my estimation, it began with the powerful U.S. gun lobby. Criminologist Gary Kleck and economist and gun rights advocate John R. Lott Jr. are often quoted on the subject. Both rely on surveys regarded as highly flawed to claim that more than 2 million gun-use deaths occur each year. Yet reputable analysis put such deaths at around 2,000 a year, not 2 million. Kleck also suggests that hundreds of thou- sands of criminals are shot annually by law- abiding citizens. Not surprisingly, there appears to be an absence of hospital records to validate this figure. The Harvard School of Public Health reports that guns are not used millions of times in self defense, most purported self-defense uses are to intimidate and frighten intimates — not to thwart crime — and few criminals are shot by law abiding- On its website the school refers to a survey in which five criminal court judges from different states were asked to examine 146 self-reported accounts of defensive gun use. The judges determined more than half of the gun usages were illegal, even assuming that the respondent described the event honestly and that the person had a legally owned gun. In an analysis of victims of gun violence from 2007 to 2011, the Department of Justice found that people were nine times as likely to be injured or killed by a fire- arm rather than protected by them. But enough of statistics. Let’s just use some common sense. What's more likely? That someone will break into your home and threaten your family, or that a member of your family, in a moment of anger or drunkenness, will resort to wielding that same weapon against you? Or that in a moment of despair, a loved one will turn that easily accessible gun on themselves? Or that your 5-year-old, who knows exactly where you keep your gun, will accidentally shoot himself? Be responsible and be wise. Don’t buy into the myth of owning a gun for self-defense. The life you save may be your own.
Steven J. Sainsbury is a hospice and geriatric physician in San Louis Obispo
 
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So I want to save lives and that makes me an anti-gun extremist? What exactly is the lie I told about suicides?

I think it is you who is the extremist and you who is the liar.


You don't want to save lives...you are exploiting suicides to push gun control.....you have been shown over and over that countries with extreme gun control, Japan, South Korea, China, and countries with more extreme gun control than the U.S. have higher suicide rates than the U.S........that would mean that guns are not the issue with suicide.......

You don't care....mixing suicide into the gun control debate helps you lie to uninformed Americans....
 
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Thinking of buying a gun for self-defense? Don’t do it
By Steven J. Sainsbury
During my more than 25 years as an emergency medicine physician, I treated hundreds of patients with gunshot wounds. I treated criminals who shot each other.
I treated gun owners who killed their family members in drunken rages.
I pronounced dead suicide victims who shot themselves with an easily accessible handgun in their home.
Yet in all those years of emergency medicine, I never treated a single patient who was shot by a law-abiding citizen in self-protection. Not one.
Multiple reputable studies and surveys bolster what I observed: Choosing to have a gun in your home, because it will keep you safe, is a myth. And a deadly one at that.
Yet surveys of gun owners show they consistently cite self-protection as the primary reason for 67% of gun purchases. Suppose you have the same fears and obtain a handgun. Which of these two scenarios is more likely?
Choice one: That gun you just bought will save your life from criminals or home invaders. This is known as defensive gun use.
Choice two: That gun will be used to kill you or a family member, whether that means the murder of a family member, an accidental shooting or suicide. It’s choice No. 2 by a landslide. In 2017, for example, according to FBI reports, for every justifiable homicide — a defensive gun-use death — there were 35 criminal homicides. And that doesn’t even include the thousands of deaths each year by suicide or the accidental deaths that occur when there is a handgun in the home. Where did this “a gun will keep you safe” myth originate? In my estimation, it began with the powerful U.S. gun lobby. Criminologist Gary Kleck and economist and gun rights advocate John R. Lott Jr. are often quoted on the subject. Both rely on surveys regarded as highly flawed to claim that more than 2 million gun-use deaths occur each year. Yet reputable analysis put such deaths at around 2,000 a year, not 2 million. Kleck also suggests that hundreds of thou- sands of criminals are shot annually by law- abiding citizens. Not surprisingly, there appears to be an absence of hospital records to validate this figure. The Harvard School of Public Health reports that guns are not used millions of times in self defense, most purported self-defense uses are to intimidate and frighten intimates — not to thwart crime — and few criminals are shot by law abiding- On its website the school refers to a survey in which five criminal court judges from different states were asked to examine 146 self-reported accounts of defensive gun use. The judges determined more than half of the gun usages were illegal, even assuming that the respondent described the event honestly and that the person had a legally owned gun. In an analysis of victims of gun violence from 2007 to 2011, the Department of Justice found that people were nine times as likely to be injured or killed by a fire- arm rather than protected by them. But enough of statistics. Let’s just use some common sense. What's more likely? That someone will break into your home and threaten your family, or that a member of your family, in a moment of anger or drunkenness, will resort to wielding that same weapon against you? Or that in a moment of despair, a loved one will turn that easily accessible gun on themselves? Or that your 5-year-old, who knows exactly where you keep your gun, will accidentally shoot himself? Be responsible and be wise. Don’t buy into the myth of owning a gun for self-defense. The life you save may be your own.
Steven J. Sainsbury is a hospice and geriatric physician in San Louis Obispo


And that is a lie..........

A quick guide to the studies and the numbers.....the full lay out of what was studied by each study is in the links....

The name of the group doing the study, the year of the study, the number of defensive gun uses and if police and military defensive gun uses are included.....notice the bill clinton and obama defensive gun use research is highlighted.....

GunCite-Gun Control-How Often Are Guns Used in Self-Defense

GunCite Frequency of Defensive Gun Use in Previous Surveys

Field...1976....3,052,717 ( no cops, no military)

DMIa 1978...2,141,512 ( no cops, no military)

L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68 ( no cops, no military)

Kleck......1994...2.5 million ( no cops, no military)

2021 national firearm survey, Prof. William English, PhD. designed by Deborah Azrael of Harvard T. Chan School of public policy, and Mathew Miller, Northeastern university.......1.67 million defensive uses annually.

CDC...1996-1998... 1.1 million averaged over those years.( no cops, no military)

Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million

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Bordua...1977...1,414,544

DMIb...1978...1,098,409 ( no cops, no military)

Hart...1981...1.797,461 ( no cops, no military)

Mauser...1990...1,487,342 ( no cops,no military)

Gallup...1993...1,621,377 ( no cops, no military)

DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million ( the bill clinton study)

Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."

(Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18])

Paper: "Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment." By David McDowall and others. Journal of Quantitative Criminology, March 2000. Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment - Springer


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Ohio...1982...771,043

Gallup...1991...777,152

Tarrance... 1994... 764,036 (no cops, no military)

Lawerence Southwich Jr. 400,000 fewer violent crimes and at least 800,000 violent crimes deterred..

2021 national firearms survey..

The survey was designed by Deborah Azrael of the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, and Matthew Miller of Northeastern University,

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The survey further finds that approximately a third of gun owners (31.1%) have used a firearm to defend themselves or their property, often on more than one occasion, and it estimates that guns are used defensively by firearms owners in approximately 1.67 million incidents per year. Handguns are the most common firearm employed for self-defense (used in 65.9% of defensive incidents), and in most defensive incidents (81.9%) no shot was fired. Approximately a quarter (25.2%) of defensive incidents occurred within the gun owner's home, and approximately half (53.9%) occurred outside their home, but on their property. About one out of ten (9.1%) defensive gun uses occurred in public, and about one out of twenty (4.8%) occurred at work.

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3887145
 
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Thinking of buying a gun for self-defense? Don’t do it
By Steven J. Sainsbury
During my more than 25 years as an emergency medicine physician, I treated hundreds of patients with gunshot wounds. I treated criminals who shot each other.
I treated gun owners who killed their family members in drunken rages.
I pronounced dead suicide victims who shot themselves with an easily accessible handgun in their home.
Yet in all those years of emergency medicine, I never treated a single patient who was shot by a law-abiding citizen in self-protection. Not one.
Multiple reputable studies and surveys bolster what I observed: Choosing to have a gun in your home, because it will keep you safe, is a myth. And a deadly one at that.
Yet surveys of gun owners show they consistently cite self-protection as the primary reason for 67% of gun purchases. Suppose you have the same fears and obtain a handgun. Which of these two scenarios is more likely?
Choice one: That gun you just bought will save your life from criminals or home invaders. This is known as defensive gun use.
Choice two: That gun will be used to kill you or a family member, whether that means the murder of a family member, an accidental shooting or suicide. It’s choice No. 2 by a landslide. In 2017, for example, according to FBI reports, for every justifiable homicide — a defensive gun-use death — there were 35 criminal homicides. And that doesn’t even include the thousands of deaths each year by suicide or the accidental deaths that occur when there is a handgun in the home. Where did this “a gun will keep you safe” myth originate? In my estimation, it began with the powerful U.S. gun lobby. Criminologist Gary Kleck and economist and gun rights advocate John R. Lott Jr. are often quoted on the subject. Both rely on surveys regarded as highly flawed to claim that more than 2 million gun-use deaths occur each year. Yet reputable analysis put such deaths at around 2,000 a year, not 2 million. Kleck also suggests that hundreds of thou- sands of criminals are shot annually by law- abiding citizens. Not surprisingly, there appears to be an absence of hospital records to validate this figure. The Harvard School of Public Health reports that guns are not used millions of times in self defense, most purported self-defense uses are to intimidate and frighten intimates — not to thwart crime — and few criminals are shot by law abiding- On its website the school refers to a survey in which five criminal court judges from different states were asked to examine 146 self-reported accounts of defensive gun use. The judges determined more than half of the gun usages were illegal, even assuming that the respondent described the event honestly and that the person had a legally owned gun. In an analysis of victims of gun violence from 2007 to 2011, the Department of Justice found that people were nine times as likely to be injured or killed by a fire- arm rather than protected by them. But enough of statistics. Let’s just use some common sense. What's more likely? That someone will break into your home and threaten your family, or that a member of your family, in a moment of anger or drunkenness, will resort to wielding that same weapon against you? Or that in a moment of despair, a loved one will turn that easily accessible gun on themselves? Or that your 5-year-old, who knows exactly where you keep your gun, will accidentally shoot himself? Be responsible and be wise. Don’t buy into the myth of owning a gun for self-defense. The life you save may be your own.
Steven J. Sainsbury is a hospice and geriatric physician in San Louis Obispo


Using extreme, anti-gun researchers at Harvard is dumb.........and this guy has no idea about the actual research conducted on gun self defense, since he only goes to Kleck, and Lott......showing he is getting his information from extreme anti-gun sources......I gave you a list of 17 studies....both private and government funded and created research..........supporting what Gary Kleck found...........one study from the Centers for Disease Control....one from the Department of Justice.....nothing to do with Kleck, and that research was done to refute Kleck...and they failed......

He treated criminals, who are the victims of 70-80% of the gun murder attacks....and the vast majority of the rest of the victims are the friends and family of those criminals who are shot when their criminal friend or family member is targeted....

So.....he wants to ban guns that save lives from these criminals, because criminals shoot each other at high rates with guns that are already illegal for them to buy, own or carry.......

Again.....the over 17 actual studies on using guns for self defense, only one of them is by Kleck...and his methods have never been actually proven to be wrong....they have been constantly attacked by anti-gun loons...but never shown to be wrong....

A quick guide to the studies and the numbers.....the full lay out of what was studied by each study is in the links....

The name of the group doing the study, the year of the study, the number of defensive gun uses and if police and military defensive gun uses are included.....notice the bill clinton and obama defensive gun use research is highlighted.....

GunCite-Gun Control-How Often Are Guns Used in Self-Defense

GunCite Frequency of Defensive Gun Use in Previous Surveys

Field...1976....3,052,717 ( no cops, no military)

DMIa 1978...2,141,512 ( no cops, no military)

L.A. TIMES...1994...3,609,68 ( no cops, no military)

Kleck......1994...2.5 million ( no cops, no military)

2021 national firearm survey, Prof. William English, PhD. designed by Deborah Azrael of Harvard T. Chan School of public policy, and Mathew Miller, Northeastern university.......1.67 million defensive uses annually.

CDC...1996-1998... 1.1 million averaged over those years.( no cops, no military)

Obama's CDC....2013....500,000--3million

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Bordua...1977...1,414,544

DMIb...1978...1,098,409 ( no cops, no military)

Hart...1981...1.797,461 ( no cops, no military)

Mauser...1990...1,487,342 ( no cops,no military)

Gallup...1993...1,621,377 ( no cops, no military)

DEPT. OF JUSTICE...1994...1.5 million ( the bill clinton study)

Journal of Quantitative Criminology--- 989,883 times per year."

(Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18])

Paper: "Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment." By David McDowall and others. Journal of Quantitative Criminology, March 2000. Measuring Civilian Defensive Firearm Use: A Methodological Experiment - Springer


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Ohio...1982...771,043

Gallup...1991...777,152

Tarrance... 1994... 764,036 (no cops, no military)

Lawerence Southwich Jr. 400,000 fewer violent crimes and at least 800,000 violent crimes deterred..

2021 national firearms survey..

The survey was designed by Deborah Azrael of the Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health, and Matthew Miller of Northeastern University,
----
The survey further finds that approximately a third of gun owners (31.1%) have used a firearm to defend themselves or their property, often on more than one occasion, and it estimates that guns are used defensively by firearms owners in approximately 1.67 million incidents per year. Handguns are the most common firearm employed for self-defense (used in 65.9% of defensive incidents), and in most defensive incidents (81.9%) no shot was fired. Approximately a quarter (25.2%) of defensive incidents occurred within the gun owner's home, and approximately half (53.9%) occurred outside their home, but on their property. About one out of ten (9.1%) defensive gun uses occurred in public, and about one out of twenty (4.8%) occurred at work.
2021 National Firearms Survey
 
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Thinking of buying a gun for self-defense? Don’t do it
By Steven J. Sainsbury
During my more than 25 years as an emergency medicine physician, I treated hundreds of patients with gunshot wounds. I treated criminals who shot each other.
I treated gun owners who killed their family members in drunken rages.
I pronounced dead suicide victims who shot themselves with an easily accessible handgun in their home.
Yet in all those years of emergency medicine, I never treated a single patient who was shot by a law-abiding citizen in self-protection. Not one.
Multiple reputable studies and surveys bolster what I observed: Choosing to have a gun in your home, because it will keep you safe, is a myth. And a deadly one at that.
Yet surveys of gun owners show they consistently cite self-protection as the primary reason for 67% of gun purchases. Suppose you have the same fears and obtain a handgun. Which of these two scenarios is more likely?
Choice one: That gun you just bought will save your life from criminals or home invaders. This is known as defensive gun use.
Choice two: That gun will be used to kill you or a family member, whether that means the murder of a family member, an accidental shooting or suicide. It’s choice No. 2 by a landslide. In 2017, for example, according to FBI reports, for every justifiable homicide — a defensive gun-use death — there were 35 criminal homicides. And that doesn’t even include the thousands of deaths each year by suicide or the accidental deaths that occur when there is a handgun in the home. Where did this “a gun will keep you safe” myth originate? In my estimation, it began with the powerful U.S. gun lobby. Criminologist Gary Kleck and economist and gun rights advocate John R. Lott Jr. are often quoted on the subject. Both rely on surveys regarded as highly flawed to claim that more than 2 million gun-use deaths occur each year. Yet reputable analysis put such deaths at around 2,000 a year, not 2 million. Kleck also suggests that hundreds of thou- sands of criminals are shot annually by law- abiding citizens. Not surprisingly, there appears to be an absence of hospital records to validate this figure. The Harvard School of Public Health reports that guns are not used millions of times in self defense, most purported self-defense uses are to intimidate and frighten intimates — not to thwart crime — and few criminals are shot by law abiding- On its website the school refers to a survey in which five criminal court judges from different states were asked to examine 146 self-reported accounts of defensive gun use. The judges determined more than half of the gun usages were illegal, even assuming that the respondent described the event honestly and that the person had a legally owned gun. In an analysis of victims of gun violence from 2007 to 2011, the Department of Justice found that people were nine times as likely to be injured or killed by a fire- arm rather than protected by them. But enough of statistics. Let’s just use some common sense. What's more likely? That someone will break into your home and threaten your family, or that a member of your family, in a moment of anger or drunkenness, will resort to wielding that same weapon against you? Or that in a moment of despair, a loved one will turn that easily accessible gun on themselves? Or that your 5-year-old, who knows exactly where you keep your gun, will accidentally shoot himself? Be responsible and be wise. Don’t buy into the myth of owning a gun for self-defense. The life you save may be your own.
Steven J. Sainsbury is a hospice and geriatric physician in San Louis Obispo


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Lancaster Woman Scares Off Bat-Wielding Attackers By Pulling Gun On Them

LANCASTER, Ohio - It happened along a walking path in Lancaster.

Dinah Burns is licensed to carry a concealed gun, but she'd only recently started taking her weapon while walking her dog.

Based on what happened, it looks like she'll make a point of carrying from now on.

"I think if they'd gotten any closer, I probably would have fired,” said Burns.

It was Monday when Burns was on a footpath near Sanderson Elementary School.

"Two gentlemen came out of the woods, one holding a baseball bat, and said 'You're coming with us'."

The men weren't deterred by Dinah's dog Gracie.

"I said, 'Well, what do you want?,' and as I was saying that I reached in to my pocket and slipped my gun out, slipped the safety off as I pulled it out. As I was doing that the other gentleman came toward me and raised the baseball bat. And, I pointed the gun at them and said, 'I have this and I'm not afraid to use it.'"

The men took off and so far have eluded police. Dinah posted about the incident on Facebook to alert friends and neighbors, to criticism by some.

"Most of the males' opinion was, 'Why didn't you shoot them?'"

Easy to second-guess a decision made under pressure, based on her concealed carry training, and police agree.

"To get out of a situation, back out, get out of it as much as you can without having to discharge your firearm."

"I will say it's a good thing to go from a place of danger to a place of safety, however you get that done,” said Sgt. Matt Chambers, Lancaster Police.

"Very thankful that it turned out the way it did, and hope it doesn't happen again, but I will be prepared."
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What I want you to know on Gun Violence Awareness Day | Fox News

What I want you to know on Gun Violence Awareness Day

I correctly listened to my instincts; I had a feeling that my life was in danger in that elevator and prepared myself mentally for what was potentially to come.

I ran to my car in an attempt to escape and, before I could even get my entire body in my car, I was tackled by my attacker.

This man quickly overpowered me, stabbed at me with a knife, clamped his hand over my mouth multiple times, and repeatedly tried forcing me in the passenger seat of my car while telling me, “We’re going.”

The entire time this was happening, a rusted, serrated knife was being stabbed towards my abdomen and held at my face.

I had been hit in the face, thrown over my driver’s side console, and had rips in my tights from his hands trying to force my legs up and over into the passenger seat.


There are some individuals that think gun owners are “trigger happy” and wanting to pull their weapons out at the first opportunity. There is nothing further from the truth.

The night I was attacked, I fought like hell for my life before reaching for my gun. I kicked, I screamed, I had all ten fingernails ripped off and bloodied from scratching and trying to fight my way out of a literal life and death situation.

Ultimately, I accessed my gun, shot my attacker multiple times, and saved my life. He will be spending years in prison for what he did to me.

Using a gun in self-protection is not a decision one makes lightly; in fact, I never dreamed that I would be forced into a situation where I would have to do so. However, I also never imagined such evil existing in the world so that I would be powerless, wounded, on my back and unable to physically force my attacker off of me.

I owned a gun and had been trained on how to use it. I know how to safely carry and that a gun is a serious and significant weapon; it is not to be used carelessly. Naysayers and people with opposing opinions may try to undermine my situation with hypotheticals. I cannot answer these questions. All I can do is tell the facts of my story and the true account of how I saved my own life.

What I want you to know on Gun Awareness Day is that a gun in the hands of a potential victim is not improperly placed; it can be the only thing keeping her from being brutally raped and murdered.

Without my gun, I would not be alive today.


Guns are not the problem in America; men like my attacker -- who are willing to violently change one person’s life for no reason except for pure evil – are the problem.

Be safe at all times. Be aware of your surroundings. Trust your instincts. Always be able to protect yourself. Refuse to be a victim, and instead be a fighter and a survivor. Live to tell your tale and make a criminal regret the day he chose you as a “soft target.” My gun saved my life, and one could save yours too.
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Waking up to an armed intruder in your house would be any home owner’s worst nightmare. If you’re a single mother with two young kids in the house, finding a man wielding a machete in your bedroom closet immediately kicks you into “momma bear” mode.

That’s what happened to a California woman who woke up to the sound of a man rummaging through her walk-in closet. The thief — Ocean Burger (his name, not a restaurant) — was armed with a number of knives and a machete when the un-named woman grabbed a handgun and confronted him.

From ksbw.com . . .


[Investigators] say Burger ignored orders to leave and when the homeowner fired several warning shots he allegedly advanced towards her, that’s when the mother fired at the accused burglar hitting him in the leg. And California law may be on her side.

Warning shots are never a good idea and could even put you in legal jeopardy in many jurisdictions. In this case, they not only wasted perfectly good (and expensive) ammunition, but probably led Burger to believe she wasn’t serious about actually shooting him.

After advancing on the woman, the round in his leg apparently convinced Burger that he was wrong.

The good news is California actually has a castle doctrine law on the books. The woman had no duty to retreat and was legally justified in using deadly force to defend herself and her children.

“There is a presumption that favors the homeowner they’re presumed that the person is in imminent fear of either death or great bodily injury,” said Ellen Campos, assistant district attorney for San Benito county. …

California Woman Shoots Machete-Wielding Burglar She Found in Her Closet - The Truth About Guns
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LANCASTER, Ohio - It happened along a walking path in Lancaster.

Dinah Burns is licensed to carry a concealed gun, but she'd only recently started taking her weapon while walking her dog.

Based on what happened, it looks like she'll make a point of carrying from now on.

"I think if they'd gotten any closer, I probably would have fired,” said Burns.

It was Monday when Burns was on a footpath near Sanderson Elementary School.

"Two gentlemen came out of the woods, one holding a baseball bat, and said 'You're coming with us'."

The men weren't deterred by Dinah's dog Gracie.

"I said, 'Well, what do you want?,' and as I was saying that I reached in to my pocket and slipped my gun out, slipped the safety off as I pulled it out. As I was doing that the other gentleman came toward me and raised the baseball bat. And, I pointed the gun at them and said, 'I have this and I'm not afraid to use it.'"

The men took off and so far have eluded police. Dinah posted about the incident on Facebook to alert friends and neighbors, to criticism by some.

"Most of the males' opinion was, 'Why didn't you shoot them?'"

Easy to second-guess a decision made under pressure, based on her concealed carry training, and police agree.

"To get out of a situation, back out, get out of it as much as you can without having to discharge your firearm."

"I will say it's a good thing to go from a place of danger to a place of safety, however you get that done,” said Sgt. Matt Chambers, Lancaster Police.

"Very thankful that it turned out the way it did, and hope it doesn't happen again, but I will be prepared."
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Mother Shoots Intruder 'Multiple Times' to Save Baby - Breitbart

An Indianapolis mother shot a man “multiple times” after he allegedly broke into the home through the window in the baby’s room.

According to CBS 4, family members said that around noon on March 24, the woman “heard the window get busted and she called her husband and said I think somebody’s breaking in the house.”

She grabbed her pistol and ran toward the sound of breaking glass, only to be confronted by the alleged intruder who shot at her, but missed.

The mother then opened fire and struck the suspect “multiple times.” He was transported to a hospital for treatment.

In addition to being armed, a 911 dispatcher said the suspect was “carrying zip ties and a walkie-talkie.”
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CCW IN ACTION: Armed 22-Year-Old Woman Stops Three Men Attempting To Rob Her In Store Parking Lot – Concealed Nation

OKLAHOMA CITY, OKLAHOMA — A concealed carrier successfully thwarted the efforts of three men to rob her late at night outside a Dollar Tree. According to police reports from the scene, the woman was exiting the Dollar Tree and heading to her car when she was approached by a man and asked to walk with him. When she refused, he point-blank told her he was going to rob her of her purse.

At this point, according to KOCO, she was presented by two other men backing up the first. She withdrew her concealed carry pistol from her purse and threatened to use it to protect herself. All three men quickly exited and fled the scene.
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Woman Scares off Assailant With Stick. Just Kidding, it was a gun.

Just before 7pm on Wednesday night, a 29 year-old woman had gathered up her dog and headed outside to… well, to let her dog do what dogs do.

Upon her first step outside her Minot, North Dakota home, she was hit solidly in the face with a blunt object, knocking her backward down the stairs and into her home.

Her assailant followed her into her home and started to approach her, but the woman had made it to a cabinet where she retrieved a handgun to protect herself and her home.

When confronted with the firearm, the violent intruder and would-be robber/rapist/murderer fled the scene.

The smart, independent, gun-owning woman did not require medical attention, most likely due to the fact that she was able to pull a weapon on her assailant to end the attack.
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DGU of the Day: Trotwood Ohio Woman Defeats Three Home Invaders - The Truth About Guns

Three men break into a home in Trotwood, Ohio. [Click here to watch the video.] They’re all armed. It is before 6 am, just three days after Christmas. One of the men is armed with a Tec-9 pistol. He enters last. The other two hold what appear to be conventional semi-auto pistols. They bypass two sleeping children to find the mother. The surveillance video shows the three following the mother after they pistol whipped her in the laundry room.

The man directly behind her has the Tec-9. Presumably holds her at gunpoint while the other two attempt to drag off a safe, in a room with two more children. While the two men are occupied with the safe, the woman breaks free from her captor, accesses a hidden pistol, and starts to fire.

All three run, but the Tec-9 gunman, Azikiwe Presley, is mortally wounded. His body is found 100 yards from the house. From wdtn.com:

“I got my gun and I started shooting and they ran,” the female caller told dispatchers. “They all three had guns, I’m confused … they must not have had bullets because after I pulled the trigger they just took off, instead of firing back. I don’t know if I hit one or not, I don’t see blood anywhere.”

In this case, the recipient of female dedication to protecting innocent life ran a hundred yards and died. It is not uncommon for a man who is fatally shot to run that far, even with a heart/lung shot. As he was likely the one holding the woman at gunpoint, and the closest, greatest, threat with the Tec-9, it is not surprising that he drew the lethal ticket. Whether through choice or happenstance, the mother made the right tactical decision.
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Concealed Carrier Holds Burglar At Gunpoint With Her FNX .45

CLEVELAND, TENNESSEE — A woman successfully subdued a would-be burglar outside her home using her FNX .45. The suspect, James Jeffrey Dunn, was allegedly trying to break in through her front door late at night. She got her handgun and confronted the burglar, according to WRCB. Once at the doorway, she yelled through the door for him to stay put and not move. Moments later, she confronted him head-on — handgun drawn and ready to go.

via WRCB

“I tried to order him to stay right where he was at and I pointed the gun at him and I came running off the porch and I came within 10 feet of him and he laid the bicycle down and he crumpled on top of the bicycle,” she says.

She held him at gunpoint until Cleveland Police arrived and arrested Dunn, 35, on charges of aggravated burglary, theft, and burglary of a motor vehicle. Police note that Dunn had an arrest sheet tallying over 40 charges — the most recent being only 6 hours prior to his attempted burglary of this concealed carrier.

“We went over this when we got my concealed carry permit, these types of scenarios. But I had already put that gun up and ever taken it out since, you know?” she says. “Maybe to go the range once.”

When we talk about the new generation of concealed carriers, let’s take a good long look at the realities these people are facing: hardened, career criminals unafraid to bust through the door or do damage to private property and persons. It’s a good thing this woman had the proper training she needed and the right equipment.
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Armed South Carolina Woman Chases Off Daytime Home Invader - The Truth About Guns

When Ms. Reeves ran across Ralph Goss slithering around inside her home yesterday in the middle of the afternoon, she drew her firearm. Staring down that barrel was enough to change Goss’s mind about whatever it was he had planned.

“I’m one of those people that can go from zero to a hundred in 2.5 seconds and I’m not a nice person normally, but as soon as I got on the phone with the sheriff’s department he was out of sight. The severity of it hit me, and I was in hysterics. I was crying, I was scared, I was very shaken.”

Oconee County deputies tracked Goss down within hours of Ms. Reeves’ call. And surprise! He already had several outstanding warrants for his arrest.
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Thinking of buying a gun for self-defense? Don’t do it
By Steven J. Sainsbury
During my more than 25 years as an emergency medicine physician, I treated hundreds of patients with gunshot wounds. I treated criminals who shot each other.
I treated gun owners who killed their family members in drunken rages.
I pronounced dead suicide victims who shot themselves with an easily accessible handgun in their home.
Yet in all those years of emergency medicine, I never treated a single patient who was shot by a law-abiding citizen in self-protection. Not one.
Multiple reputable studies and surveys bolster what I observed: Choosing to have a gun in your home, because it will keep you safe, is a myth. And a deadly one at that.
Yet surveys of gun owners show they consistently cite self-protection as the primary reason for 67% of gun purchases. Suppose you have the same fears and obtain a handgun. Which of these two scenarios is more likely?
Choice one: That gun you just bought will save your life from criminals or home invaders. This is known as defensive gun use.
Choice two: That gun will be used to kill you or a family member, whether that means the murder of a family member, an accidental shooting or suicide. It’s choice No. 2 by a landslide. In 2017, for example, according to FBI reports, for every justifiable homicide — a defensive gun-use death — there were 35 criminal homicides. And that doesn’t even include the thousands of deaths each year by suicide or the accidental deaths that occur when there is a handgun in the home. Where did this “a gun will keep you safe” myth originate? In my estimation, it began with the powerful U.S. gun lobby. Criminologist Gary Kleck and economist and gun rights advocate John R. Lott Jr. are often quoted on the subject. Both rely on surveys regarded as highly flawed to claim that more than 2 million gun-use deaths occur each year. Yet reputable analysis put such deaths at around 2,000 a year, not 2 million. Kleck also suggests that hundreds of thou- sands of criminals are shot annually by law- abiding citizens. Not surprisingly, there appears to be an absence of hospital records to validate this figure. The Harvard School of Public Health reports that guns are not used millions of times in self defense, most purported self-defense uses are to intimidate and frighten intimates — not to thwart crime — and few criminals are shot by law abiding- On its website the school refers to a survey in which five criminal court judges from different states were asked to examine 146 self-reported accounts of defensive gun use. The judges determined more than half of the gun usages were illegal, even assuming that the respondent described the event honestly and that the person had a legally owned gun. In an analysis of victims of gun violence from 2007 to 2011, the Department of Justice found that people were nine times as likely to be injured or killed by a fire- arm rather than protected by them. But enough of statistics. Let’s just use some common sense. What's more likely? That someone will break into your home and threaten your family, or that a member of your family, in a moment of anger or drunkenness, will resort to wielding that same weapon against you? Or that in a moment of despair, a loved one will turn that easily accessible gun on themselves? Or that your 5-year-old, who knows exactly where you keep your gun, will accidentally shoot himself? Be responsible and be wise. Don’t buy into the myth of owning a gun for self-defense. The life you save may be your own.
Steven J. Sainsbury is a hospice and geriatric physician in San Louis Obispo


Do you understand that this guy doesn't understand the issue.......he simply parrots the anti-gun loons? Kleck and Lott didn't do the same research...that he doesn't understand that shows he is simply repeating whatever he reads from the anti-gun loons...

Kleck, an anti-gunner, did the research into defensive gun use....which was then done by over 17 others trying to refute him....and they failed...as you have been shown...

Lott, as an economist, and general anti-gun individual, was tired of the two sides of the debate cherry picking information about crime and concealed carry laws....so he did a study that looked at the crime stats in every single county in the U.S. before they had concealed carry and after concealed carry........

That this Doctor doesn't understand the difference in their research should make you less likely to believe this guy.....but I doubt it....
 

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There are certainly Dems that want to ban all guns but I doubt they are in the majority. I think most Dems, including me, just want something that will reduce gun deaths while allowing people access to guns for fun or protection.

Some quick research by me seems to indicate no relationship between gun control laws and gun crime. I think one problem with these numbers is that most guns used for crime in NYC are not purchased legally in NYC. If states like mine, VA, had stricter laws, NYC might be a safer place. Maybe.

What I did find is that places with stricter gun laws had fewer gun deaths. Probably the number of suicides is what was affected. I think fewer gun deaths is a worthy goal.

People serious about suicide will kill themselves by other means if they can't get a gun. Suicide deaths prove nothing.

But if reducing deaths is important, let's reduce Fentanyl deaths and close the border and complete the wall. That will save more lives that banning both guns and cars.

More restrictive gun laws don't lead to reduced gun murders; consider Chicago, NYC, Baltimore, Washington, D.C.
 

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I thought the Democrats believed in right-to-die and assisted suicide.
 

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In the US, firearms are used in half of all suicide deaths.


Except it did. Suicide by firearm is almost always deadly — 9 out of 10 firearm suicide attempts result in death
You understand that, without the availability of a gun, the suicidal would simply choose other options, right?

 

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Three different people in my life or my wife's life have died of suicide - that we know of. None did it with a gun. There's a good possibility that others we know died from suicide, as well, because families don't generally shout it out. But what we do know is that no one we know has died from a gunshot.
 

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So is your answer? I may be a vile moron but I care about other peoples lives. I guess you having to fill out some paperwork is more important than the lives of people you don't know. Got it.
How is paperwork a gun-safety plan? Does paperwork stop people from using a gun to commit suicide? There are about 1500 to 1600 gun suicides a year in California out of about 4100 suicides a year. There are about 11 suicides per 100K in population compared to about 13 suicides per 100K in population nationwide. Not a big difference in rates yet fewer gun suicides because guns are more difficult to come by. Yet people are still killing themselves; they're just not using guns to do it.
 

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Did not you see the warehouses full of confiscated guns Obama took? You guys crack me up!
Why do you have a nude image of trump as your avatar? You must be an orange cock gobbler! The gov. wants to confiscate guns, you want to be an orange cocksman!
 

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Thinking of buying a gun for self-defense? Don’t do it
By Steven J. Sainsbury
During my more than 25 years as an emergency medicine physician, I treated hundreds of patients with gunshot wounds. I treated criminals who shot each other.
I treated gun owners who killed their family members in drunken rages.
I pronounced dead suicide victims who shot themselves with an easily accessible handgun in their home.
Yet in all those years of emergency medicine, I never treated a single patient who was shot by a law-abiding citizen in self-protection. Not one.
Multiple reputable studies and surveys bolster what I observed: Choosing to have a gun in your home, because it will keep you safe, is a myth. And a deadly one at that.
Yet surveys of gun owners show they consistently cite self-protection as the primary reason for 67% of gun purchases. Suppose you have the same fears and obtain a handgun. Which of these two scenarios is more likely?
Choice one: That gun you just bought will save your life from criminals or home invaders. This is known as defensive gun use.
Choice two: That gun will be used to kill you or a family member, whether that means the murder of a family member, an accidental shooting or suicide. It’s choice No. 2 by a landslide. In 2017, for example, according to FBI reports, for every justifiable homicide — a defensive gun-use death — there were 35 criminal homicides. And that doesn’t even include the thousands of deaths each year by suicide or the accidental deaths that occur when there is a handgun in the home. Where did this “a gun will keep you safe” myth originate? In my estimation, it began with the powerful U.S. gun lobby. Criminologist Gary Kleck and economist and gun rights advocate John R. Lott Jr. are often quoted on the subject. Both rely on surveys regarded as highly flawed to claim that more than 2 million gun-use deaths occur each year. Yet reputable analysis put such deaths at around 2,000 a year, not 2 million. Kleck also suggests that hundreds of thou- sands of criminals are shot annually by law- abiding citizens. Not surprisingly, there appears to be an absence of hospital records to validate this figure. The Harvard School of Public Health reports that guns are not used millions of times in self defense, most purported self-defense uses are to intimidate and frighten intimates — not to thwart crime — and few criminals are shot by law abiding- On its website the school refers to a survey in which five criminal court judges from different states were asked to examine 146 self-reported accounts of defensive gun use. The judges determined more than half of the gun usages were illegal, even assuming that the respondent described the event honestly and that the person had a legally owned gun. In an analysis of victims of gun violence from 2007 to 2011, the Department of Justice found that people were nine times as likely to be injured or killed by a fire- arm rather than protected by them. But enough of statistics. Let’s just use some common sense. What's more likely? That someone will break into your home and threaten your family, or that a member of your family, in a moment of anger or drunkenness, will resort to wielding that same weapon against you? Or that in a moment of despair, a loved one will turn that easily accessible gun on themselves? Or that your 5-year-old, who knows exactly where you keep your gun, will accidentally shoot himself? Be responsible and be wise. Don’t buy into the myth of owning a gun for self-defense. The life you save may be your own.
Steven J. Sainsbury is a hospice and geriatric physician in San Louis Obispo
Lol, fake news mr. cock merchant. You are a filthy liar
 

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Confiscation is the goal of radical democrats. What more evidence do you need than arrogant Beto O'rourke ..."hell yes we will take your AR15's". Later he said that he was only kidding.
 

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Gun registration...yes, the democrats want it, yes, they want to use it to ban and confiscate guns....
This is a lie.

Democrats do not want to ‘ban’ or ‘confiscate’ guns.
 

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Obama, like Biden, promised a ban on handguns, rifles and shotguns.
Both had a congress controlled by Democrats.
Why did those bans not materialize?
For eight years conservatives lied about President Obama ‘banning’ and ‘confiscating’ guns – it never happened.

Conservatives have resorted to those same lies and demagoguery now that President Biden is in office – and again it will never happen.
 
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For eight years conservatives lied about President Obama ‘banning’ and ‘confiscating’ guns – it never happened.

Conservatives have resorted to those same lies and demagoguery now that President Biden is in office – and again it will never happen.

Moron…..the Bill “the rapist” Clinton 1994 Assault weapon ban was one of the reasons the democrats lost control of congress after 40 years of control…….Obama realized two things…..

1). He needed to pass and then protect Obama care…..so he didnt want to lose congress to gun control votes……

2). He knows that you can effectively pass gun control at the local level much easier and with less political cost ……….and then democrat party judges at the lower court level can rule them Constitutional….so he packed the lower courts with anti-gun extremists and let them do the heavy lifting…

You moron…
 

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For eight years conservatives lied about President Obama ‘banning’ and ‘confiscating’ guns – it never happened.
Not because He didn't want it to - which was the claim conservatives made.
And thus, another lie from Clayton.
 

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I just ignore the shite you post because it's copied and pasted crap. You have no individual input, just copied and pasted shite.

If there's a yearly forum award, you will win the, "Biggest shite poster" trophy.
Translation: "Being unable to refute the facts, I will attack the source."

Look, we all understand: you believe that a woman who has been raped and strangled is morally superior to a woman whose attacker acquired a sucking chest wound.
 

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