Gun Owners Of America

[White 6]

I hear snow is coming.

Not to Tennessee, at least not West Tennessee.

 

[The Duke]

Not to Tennessee, at least not West Tennessee.

Well if it ain't comin' there, it ain't freezing here!

This is great news!

 

[BothWings]

I was a member of JPFO (Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership) for a few years. I'm not Jewish, but they are really a good outfit. They don't have all bravado and hype and commercial involvement that the NRA has. They are just a good, serious and highly active advocacy group for the 2nd. They don't waste people's money by sending them t-shirts, hats and gym bags so much....they put it to direct use in advocating for gun rights. I'd actually like to join them again at some point. If more people knew about them and really didn't care about the fact that the the management is Jewish, I think it could grow into something exceptionally powerful. Unfortunately it's kind of stayed low profile and therefore doesn't have quite the membership that the NRA has. However, pound-for-pound I think they are better.

Jews For The Preservation of Firearms Ownership

America's Most Aggressive Defender of Firearms Ownership

jpfo.org

 

[White 6]

Well if it ain't comin' there, it ain't freezing here!

This is great news!

All you have to worry about is sunburn on Saturday and maybe some rip currents.

 

[MayorQuimby]

I was a member of JPFO (Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership) for a few years. I'm not Jewish, but they are really a good outfit. They don't have all bravado and hype and commercial involvement that the NRA has. They are just a good, serious and highly active advocacy group for the 2nd. They don't waste people's money by sending them t-shirts, hats and gym bags so much....they put it to direct use in advocating for gun rights. I'd actually like to join them again at some point. If more people knew about them and really didn't care about the fact that the the management is Jewish, I think it could grow into something exceptionally powerful. Unfortunately it's kind of stayed low profile and therefore doesn't have quite the membership that the NRA has. However, pound-for-pound I think they are better.

Jews For The Preservation of Firearms Ownership

America's Most Aggressive Defender of Firearms Ownership

jpfo.org

Join them again? What happened to your membership the first time around?

 

[BothWings]

Join them again? What happened to your membership the first time around?

It sounds like youre not familiar with how such groups usually operate, including the NRA. You pay x amount money and you can be a member for x number of years. You pay a little more money and you can be a member for a few more years. And most of these organizations have a cap sum where if you pay that cap sum (usually several hundred dollars) you can be a lifetime member. Unfortunately I'm not one of those people with the bucks to burn on a lifetime memebership. If you are, by all means join and become a lifetime member. These groups don't run on recycled vegetable oil. They have lawyers, secretaries and other folks working for them who have lives and expenses of their own.

 

[MayorQuimby]

It sounds like youre not familiar with how such groups usually operate, including the NRA. You pay x amount money and you can be a member for x number of years. You pay a little more money and you can be a member for a few more years. And most of these organizations have a cap sum where if you pay that cap sum (usually several hundred dollars) you can be a lifetime member. Unfortunately I'm not one of those people with the bucks to burn on a lifetime memebership. If you are, by all means join and become a lifetime member. These groups don't run on recycled vegetable oil. They have lawyers, secretaries and other folks working for them who have lives and expenses of their own.

Ah, thanks for explaining, I did have some vague idea about how they were run but wasn't the most up-to-date about it.

Oh by the way, you said that the group you liked (the Jewish gun group) did not waste their money on T-shirts, hats...etc. However, the GOA also sells merchandize like that, does that mean the GOA is not a serious group?

 

[1srelluc]

GOA and SAF are doing really great work....Join both.

If your state grassroot pro-2A .org is not affiliated with the NRA join that too.

The GOA and SAF sorta work with each other and there have been several instances where they got something enjoined (working with a state .org) that only their members could take advantage of....Pistol braces for one till the ATF backed off for everyone else.

 

[MayorQuimby]

GOA and SAF are doing really great work....Join both.

If your state grassroot pro-2A .org is not affiliated with the NRA join that too.

The GOA and SAF sorta work with each other and there have been several instances where they got something enjoined (working with a state .org) that only their members could take advantage of....Pistol braces for one till the ATF backed off for everyone else.

Thank you for providing me with this info sir, I did not know it before.

However, do you mind providing some sort of link proving that GOA and SAF sometimes join forces? I don't mean to sound like I doubt you; it's just that I would really like to verify everything before I write a check to anybody. I mis-donated close to $10K Canadian to a fake organization; I am sure you understand.

 

[westwall]

I see.

Btw, can I ask you where you find stuff like that? I would like to upgrade my internet research skills. Thanks.

I'm a machine gun collector. I was a life member of the NRA till they did that.

 

[BothWings]

Ah, thanks for explaining, I did have some vague idea about how they were run but wasn't the most up-to-date about it.

Oh by the way, you said that the group you liked (the Jewish gun group) did not waste their money on T-shirts, hats...etc. However, the GOA also sells merchandize like that, does that mean the GOA is not a serious group?

Selling a few things in an online shop helps them find themselves. It the thing with the NRA is a lot of it is vanity. They send you a bunch "free" shit for being a member. They "outfit" you, try to make you look important in front of your fellow gun aficionados. They have a chest-beating approach to gun advocacy, whereas groups like JPFO are far more practical, simple and to the point...and don't fool around with all the useless vanity.

 

[MayorQuimby]

Selling a few things in an online shop helps them find themselves. It the thing with the NRA is a lot of it is vanity. They send you a bunch "free" shit for being a member. They "outfit" you, try to make you look important in front of your fellow gun aficionados. They have a chest-beating approach to gun advocacy, whereas groups like JPFO are far more practical, simple and to the point...and don't fool around with all the useless vanity.

I can see what you mean sir; and yes, I too would prefer a simpler, "to-the-point", no-frill approach.

But JPFO is too small for my liking, and also, I think their name could make people think they would have to be Jewish to join. I feel that this would limit the growth of their membership. They should make it more inclusive. Also, did you go to the respective website of the three groups I mentioned? Which did you like best? I like the SAF's the least because of the eagle on the background. Don't get me wrong; I don't have anything against Americanism. But rather, I feel that they are trying to evoke some kind of emotions when I think that stuff like this (protecting the 2A) should be a very sober, clear-eyed process, which is why I like the FPC's and GOA's websites better,

 

[MayorQuimby]

I'm a machine gun collector. I was a life member of the NRA till they did that.

I see; was that when you started to search for an alternative to NRA, sir? Back in 1986? It must not have been easy, the internet wasn't really around back then, I presume. So how did you find the GOA, sir?

 

[BothWings]

I can see what you mean sir; and yes, I too would prefer a simpler, "to-the-point", no-frill approach.

But JPFO is too small for my liking, and also, I think their name could make people think they would have to be Jewish to join. I feel that this would limit the growth of their membership. They should make it more inclusive. Also, did you go to the respective website of the three groups I mentioned? Which did you like best? I like the SAF's the least because of the eagle on the background. Don't get me wrong; I don't have anything against Americanism. But rather, I feel that they are trying to evoke some kind of emotions when I think that stuff like this (protecting the 2A) should be a very sober, clear-eyed process, which is why I like the FPC's and GOA's websites better,

I think if made bigger by people who would simply ignore the Jewish thing (it says right in their website you don't have to be Jewish) and realize that their methods are very mindful, practical and serious rather than taking a linebacker approach, they have the potential to be very effective. Mo, I did check out those other ones yet. I just ate dinner a short while go. I definitely will give them a look later tonight or tomorrow. You might not hear back from me about it until then though.

 

[NewsVine_Mariyam]

vs. Second amendment foundation vs. firearm policy coalition.




If you have limited money to donate and must choose one, which would you choose and why? Thank you.

This feels like deja vu.

Yeah, Gun Owners of America's whose motto is "No Compromise!"

 

[JWBooth]

GoA
Actively fighting government oppression of firearms owners. Most gains in recent years are the result of their efforts.

 

[1srelluc]

GoA
Actively fighting government oppression of firearms owners. Most gains in recent years are the result of their efforts.

Remember the Heller decision.....That was the SAF.....I suspect we would have done much better had the NRA not tried usurping the process.