Gun murder is up in democrat party cities, but gun crime in general is down....... More guns, less gun crime....

[jbander]

A look at the Crime Victimization Survey shows a decrease in gun crime even as gun murder in democrat party controlled cities is going up....of course, the victims of gun murder are majority criminals shot by other criminals.....

But what the media ignores is that the number of violent gun crimes dropped dramatically in 2020. Last October, the US Department of Justice released a study showing victims reported 212,470 gun crimes to police in 2020, a drop of 27% from the 290,790 in 2019. The share of violent crimes committed with guns also fell – by over 30%.

Of course, victims don’t report all crimes to the police. To get a handle on that, the Bureau of Justice Statistics’ National Crime Victimization Survey interviews about 100,000 Americans each year. That survey also finds that the estimated number of gun crimes also fell by 27%, from 481,950 to 350,460 and that the share of violent crimes involving guns was only 7.7%.

In 2020, there was a statistically insignificant few percentage point rise in the share of murder committed with guns, but the share of guns used in robberies and aggravated assaults has dropped dramatically.

All this is consistent with academic research by myself and others showing that when civilians carry guns criminals are less likely to carry them. If a criminal pulls out a gun against an armed victim, he is more likely to be shot.

Gun ownership didn’t fuel the increase in crime over the last couple of years. Rather, people worried about violent crime and decided to arm themselves for self-protection.

It’s not hard to find explanations for the increased violence. Many urban areas saw more than half of prison inmates released because of the pandemic, and the releases still continue. Nationwide, there are over 340,000 fewer inmates in jails and prisons in 2021 than in 2019. In many places, police budgets were cut and officers ordered to stand down. New York City cut its police budget by $1 billion.
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Prosecutors in many major urban areas have refused to prosecute violent criminals. In October, two rival drug gangs got into a gunfight in Chicago during broad daylight. The fight, caught on video, left one shooter dead and two others wounded. Cook County District Attorney Kim Foxx declined to prosecute any of the gang members, initially explaining they were “mutual combatants.”

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If it is from the right, it is a lie or a distortion. There are 19 whole state that are more dangerous than New York all are right wing controlled hate states, That whole fricken states not just city's . The safest cities over 200,000 people in the US are democratic cities. The worst place to raise your children, the places with the highest incidents of rape, the biggest welfare states, the states that depend most on federal funding. The state with the highest use of food stamps. States with the highest number of hate groups and the highest death rate by guns, ALL IN RIGHT WING RUN HATE STATES. LIVE WITH IT>

 

[jbander]

I have definitely heard that before and it makes sense. I guess, then, the only fix is... well, you already made the case. Thanks.

You have it easy, you only have to convince other stupid people. I vote for any gun that is designed to blow you into two pieces be banned. Then the stupid idiots who get their rocks off by having guns that can do that will be forced to buy guns for a different reason. They can tell the world how big their dick is differently.

 

[M14 Shooter]

The Ar15 was designed and mass-manufactured for our military for the soul purpose of killing fellow human beings.

False.
The AR15 was designed in 1963 by Colt as a sporting rifle - hunting, target shooting, plinking, whatever.

Since the AR-15 was designed and manufactured under the direction of our Commander and Chef,
the President of the USA, Joe Biden could order the recall of all military firearms as property of our military.

Only one of my firearms was ever owned by the government, and it isn't getting it back.

 

[bodecea]

A look at the Crime Victimization Survey shows a decrease in gun crime even as gun murder in democrat party controlled cities is going up....of course, the victims of gun murder are majority criminals shot by other criminals.....

But what the media ignores is that the number of violent gun crimes dropped dramatically in 2020. Last October, the US Department of Justice released a study showing victims reported 212,470 gun crimes to police in 2020, a drop of 27% from the 290,790 in 2019. The share of violent crimes committed with guns also fell – by over 30%.

Of course, victims don’t report all crimes to the police. To get a handle on that, the Bureau of Justice Statistics’ National Crime Victimization Survey interviews about 100,000 Americans each year. That survey also finds that the estimated number of gun crimes also fell by 27%, from 481,950 to 350,460 and that the share of violent crimes involving guns was only 7.7%.

In 2020, there was a statistically insignificant few percentage point rise in the share of murder committed with guns, but the share of guns used in robberies and aggravated assaults has dropped dramatically.

All this is consistent with academic research by myself and others showing that when civilians carry guns criminals are less likely to carry them. If a criminal pulls out a gun against an armed victim, he is more likely to be shot.

Gun ownership didn’t fuel the increase in crime over the last couple of years. Rather, people worried about violent crime and decided to arm themselves for self-protection.

It’s not hard to find explanations for the increased violence. Many urban areas saw more than half of prison inmates released because of the pandemic, and the releases still continue. Nationwide, there are over 340,000 fewer inmates in jails and prisons in 2021 than in 2019. In many places, police budgets were cut and officers ordered to stand down. New York City cut its police budget by $1 billion.
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Prosecutors in many major urban areas have refused to prosecute violent criminals. In October, two rival drug gangs got into a gunfight in Chicago during broad daylight. The fight, caught on video, left one shooter dead and two others wounded. Cook County District Attorney Kim Foxx declined to prosecute any of the gang members, initially explaining they were “mutual combatants.”

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Hit dogs still howling.

 

[2aguy]

If it is from the right, it is a lie or a distortion. There are 19 whole state that are more dangerous than New York all are right wing controlled hate states, That whole fricken states not just city's . The safest cities over 200,000 people in the US are democratic cities. The worst place to raise your children, the places with the highest incidents of rape, the biggest welfare states, the states that depend most on federal funding. The state with the highest use of food stamps. States with the highest number of hate groups and the highest death rate by guns, ALL IN RIGHT WING RUN HATE STATES. LIVE WITH IT>

Moron… the cities in Red states are controlled… completely… by the democrats….you idiot…

Their policies of attacking the police and releasing the most dangerous and violent criminals cause the increased
Violence

 

[jbander]

Moron… the cities in Red states are controlled… completely… by the democrats….you idiot…

Their policies of attacking the police and releasing the most dangerous and violent criminals cause the increased
Violence

Moron… the cities in Red states are controlled… completely… by the democrats….you idiot…

Their policies of attacking the police and releasing the most dangerous and violent criminals cause the increased
Violence

You brain-dead moron if that was the case, which it isn't ,then the blues states with also blue cities would be more dangerous, and they are not. -That you dumb lame micro mind is the point. You people are such dumb fucks that you won't be able to see the reasoning of this point. To repeat myself, the right has it easy because they only have to convince stupid people of their stupid ideas. This being a prime example.

 

[jbander]

They are fucking idiots.

 

[jbander]

FIRE ARMS DEATH RATE

 

[marvin martian]

A look at the Crime Victimization Survey shows a decrease in gun crime even as gun murder in democrat party controlled cities is going up....of course, the victims of gun murder are majority criminals shot by other criminals.....

But what the media ignores is that the number of violent gun crimes dropped dramatically in 2020. Last October, the US Department of Justice released a study showing victims reported 212,470 gun crimes to police in 2020, a drop of 27% from the 290,790 in 2019. The share of violent crimes committed with guns also fell – by over 30%.

Of course, victims don’t report all crimes to the police. To get a handle on that, the Bureau of Justice Statistics’ National Crime Victimization Survey interviews about 100,000 Americans each year. That survey also finds that the estimated number of gun crimes also fell by 27%, from 481,950 to 350,460 and that the share of violent crimes involving guns was only 7.7%.

In 2020, there was a statistically insignificant few percentage point rise in the share of murder committed with guns, but the share of guns used in robberies and aggravated assaults has dropped dramatically.

All this is consistent with academic research by myself and others showing that when civilians carry guns criminals are less likely to carry them. If a criminal pulls out a gun against an armed victim, he is more likely to be shot.

Gun ownership didn’t fuel the increase in crime over the last couple of years. Rather, people worried about violent crime and decided to arm themselves for self-protection.

It’s not hard to find explanations for the increased violence. Many urban areas saw more than half of prison inmates released because of the pandemic, and the releases still continue. Nationwide, there are over 340,000 fewer inmates in jails and prisons in 2021 than in 2019. In many places, police budgets were cut and officers ordered to stand down. New York City cut its police budget by $1 billion.
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Prosecutors in many major urban areas have refused to prosecute violent criminals. In October, two rival drug gangs got into a gunfight in Chicago during broad daylight. The fight, caught on video, left one shooter dead and two others wounded. Cook County District Attorney Kim Foxx declined to prosecute any of the gang members, initially explaining they were “mutual combatants.”

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As I've said many times, the SUREST way to die violently in this country is by living in a place run by DemoKKKrats (be it a state, city, neighborhood, or building). The numbers don't lie.

 

[2aguy]

You brain-dead moron if that was the case, which it isn't ,then the blues states with also blue cities would be more dangerous, and they are not. -That you dumb lame micro mind is the point. You people are such dumb fucks that you won't be able to see the reasoning of this point. To repeat myself, the right has it easy because they only have to convince stupid people of their stupid ideas. This being a prime example.

No...moron....blue cities are dangerous, even in Red States, you doofus...I notice you didn't name the cities, because we have already dont it for you in numerous other threads...we named the cities and pointed to the decades of total democrat party control in those cities...you moron...

 

[LuckyDuck]

A look at the Crime Victimization Survey shows a decrease in gun crime even as gun murder in democrat party controlled cities is going up....of course, the victims of gun murder are majority criminals shot by other criminals.....

But what the media ignores is that the number of violent gun crimes dropped dramatically in 2020. Last October, the US Department of Justice released a study showing victims reported 212,470 gun crimes to police in 2020, a drop of 27% from the 290,790 in 2019. The share of violent crimes committed with guns also fell – by over 30%.

Of course, victims don’t report all crimes to the police. To get a handle on that, the Bureau of Justice Statistics’ National Crime Victimization Survey interviews about 100,000 Americans each year. That survey also finds that the estimated number of gun crimes also fell by 27%, from 481,950 to 350,460 and that the share of violent crimes involving guns was only 7.7%.

In 2020, there was a statistically insignificant few percentage point rise in the share of murder committed with guns, but the share of guns used in robberies and aggravated assaults has dropped dramatically.

All this is consistent with academic research by myself and others showing that when civilians carry guns criminals are less likely to carry them. If a criminal pulls out a gun against an armed victim, he is more likely to be shot.

Gun ownership didn’t fuel the increase in crime over the last couple of years. Rather, people worried about violent crime and decided to arm themselves for self-protection.

It’s not hard to find explanations for the increased violence. Many urban areas saw more than half of prison inmates released because of the pandemic, and the releases still continue. Nationwide, there are over 340,000 fewer inmates in jails and prisons in 2021 than in 2019. In many places, police budgets were cut and officers ordered to stand down. New York City cut its police budget by $1 billion.
----

Prosecutors in many major urban areas have refused to prosecute violent criminals. In October, two rival drug gangs got into a gunfight in Chicago during broad daylight. The fight, caught on video, left one shooter dead and two others wounded. Cook County District Attorney Kim Foxx declined to prosecute any of the gang members, initially explaining they were “mutual combatants.”

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Since gun murders in the Democrat run inner-cities is up, one can look at it as the Democrat base reducing itself.

 

[Blues Man]

Ranch rifle, my asssssss
The commander in chief can order a recall of all military rifles; period
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The mini 14 was never a military rifle.

It is a commonplace small caliber semiautomatic no different than any other semiautomatic rifle that has been available to civilians for over a century now

 

[Blues Man]

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FIRE ARMS DEATH RATE

That includes suicides and suicide is not a crime. It's a choice that every single person has the absolute right to make

 

[jbander]

That includes suicides and suicide is not a crime. It's a choice that every single person has the absolute right to make

Do you realize how pitiful that remark is? Killer

 

[jbander]

No...moron....blue cities are dangerous, even in Red States, you doofus...I notice you didn't name the cities, because we have already dont it for you in numerous other threads...we named the cities and pointed to the decades of total democrat party control in those cities...you moron...

These people are too stupid to realize that if their fact that hate party states are worse off only because of the democratic city's, Then the worst states would of course be democratic states with their democratic city's in them, but that's not the case, the worst states by far a Hate party states. No comparison. Like I said there are 19 states that have a higher homicide rate than New York, yup you guessed it, they are hate party states. Highest rape numbers, the highest crime rate across the board, The Highest welfare recipients, the highest food stamp recipients, hate party states cost Democratic states massive amounts of money because they take out way more federally then they contribute. Worst States to bring up children, the worst education systems, Most hate groups, The Lowest wages, Then worst health care, And the BEST city's in the US over 200,000 the majority are democratically run city's.

 

[jbander]

If someone wants to take the time to educate these dumb lames, go ahead, I won't, I found out you can't teach brick for brains anything. Be my guest.

 

[jbander]

Moron… the cities in Red states are controlled… completely… by the democrats….you idiot…

Their policies of attacking the police and releasing the most dangerous and violent criminals cause the increased
Violence

What a moron, not even close. So if I find one city in a hate party state that is run by democrats, then you are 100% wrong. What an idiot. The best cities in this country, the majority, are run by Democrats,

 

[Blues Man]

Do you realize how pitiful that remark is? Killer

yes I know you hate the idea of people having choices.

The concept that all people have the absolute right to choose to live or die interferes with your ability to control them

 

[candycorn]

If a mass shooting occurs anywhere in any city, it automatically becomes a democratic city. Has anyone else noticed this?

 

[candycorn]

yes I know you hate the idea of people having choices.

The concept that all people have the absolute right to choose to live or die interferes with your ability to control them

Its a shame these kids in school keep choosing to die. OR are you suggesting a 4th grader should be able to carry concealed too?