Gun free Britain? Murders going to hit 10 year high...

[dannyboys]

Yep....young males, raised without fathers to teach them to be adult men, mixed with 3rd world males running the drug gangs, and the British police hamstrung due to lack of manpower, money, and politically correct rules of engagment.....

London on course for highest number of killings in a decade after 2018 passes 2017 total

You do realise that London isn't Britain...don't you?

Chicago isn't the United States either asshole!
Remove every illegal gun in every inner city shithole in the US and the 'gun violence' stats would fall dramatically.
How Bad Is Violence in Chicago? Depends on Your Race - The Atlantic

 

[Skull Pilot]

Yep....young males, raised without fathers to teach them to be adult men, mixed with 3rd world males running the drug gangs, and the British police hamstrung due to lack of manpower, money, and politically correct rules of engagment.....

London on course for highest number of killings in a decade after 2018 passes 2017 total

You do realise that London isn't Britain...don't you?

Chicago isn't the United States either asshole!
Remove every illegal gun in every inner city shithole in the US and the 'gun violence' stats would fall dramatically.
How Bad Is Violence in Chicago? Depends on Your Race - The Atlantic

Our murder rate is skewed by just a handful of inner city areas in this country because 70% of all murder occurs in these very small very well defined areas of just 2% of all the counties in the country

 

[Pilot1]

Our murder rate is skewed by just a handful of inner city areas in this country because 70% of all murder occurs in these very small very well defined areas of just 2% of all the counties in the country

And most of the rest of "gun violence" statistics are SUICIDES. Yet the left wants to remove guns from the hands of the LAW ABIDING as their solution to just DO SOMETHING, ANYTHING!!! They are like little girls running with their skirts over their heads.

Remove the inner city, black on black violence, and suicides, and you have very little "gun violence" in the U.S. Yet the media makes it seem like it is the Wild West here. Talk to Europeans and see what their media tells them about the U.S. Outside of my gun range, and cops, I have NEVER seen a gun in public in the U.S.

 

[dannyboys]

Yep....young males, raised without fathers to teach them to be adult men, mixed with 3rd world males running the drug gangs, and the British police hamstrung due to lack of manpower, money, and politically correct rules of engagment.....

London on course for highest number of killings in a decade after 2018 passes 2017 total

You do realise that London isn't Britain...don't you?

Chicago isn't the United States either asshole!
Remove every illegal gun in every inner city shithole in the US and the 'gun violence' stats would fall dramatically.
How Bad Is Violence in Chicago? Depends on Your Race - The Atlantic

Our murder rate is skewed by just a handful of inner city areas in this country because 70% of all murder occurs in these very small very well defined areas of just 2% of all the counties in the country

And about 14% of the population habitually commit about 90% of the gun crimes in the US.

 

[JoeB131]

I've given you a link to the publication from the House of Commons multuple times and you know it

And it wasn't what you represented it as... kind of like TwoTiny's claims that Kellerman recanted.

So just because you say something isn't true in no way means it is false in fact with your record of duplicitousness just the opposite is true

Again, you should be able to show us the "Real" numbers if what you say is true, then?

 

[JoeB131]

Our murder rate is skewed by just a handful of inner city areas in this country because 70% of all murder occurs in these very small very well defined areas of just 2% of all the counties in the country

Which is where most of the population lives...

I'm always amazed that you want to count Harden County IL (Pop. 4320) with Cook County (population 5,211,000) and say, "See, see, most of the murders are happening in one county!

 

[harmonica]

answer the question:
why is UK's murder rate 4 times lower?
or France's/Germany's?

Tell me why NH has a murder rate more than 4 times lower than CA despite CA having the harshest gun laws in the country

very bad, terrible comparison--WRONG
......anyone that graduated high school science/math knows for a hypothesis to be valid/etc using comparisons, the test subjects have be comparable/etc--ETC
..NH population 1.3 million
..Cali 39 million with twice the density

that's why
AND the laws are not federal

Funny how you talk about education yet you do not understand ratios

The murder RATE is murders per 100,00 it matters not if you compare different states because the RATIO accounts for population size

But if I didn't understand ratios and used your argument then your comparison of murder rates between the UK and the US is invalidated because the UK has a population od 66 million and the US has a population of 350 million

And no the laws are not federal which is why the comparison between states is relevant.

There are 23 states that have murder RATES less than CA and CA has the harshest gun laws in the country so if gun laws actually lowered murder rates then CA would have the lowest rate in the country and NH would have a much higher murder rate.

Our murder rate is driven by relatively few very distinct areas in the country that are ultra violent. These areas are those that are historically plagued by segregation, poverty, unemployment , underemployment, substandard education, crime, drugs and gangs.

70% of all murders occur in these areas which tend to be inner city neighborhoods that exist in very small areas of just 2% of all the counties in the US.

We do not have a gun problem. We have a cancer in our inner cities that breeds enough violence and murder so as to skew the rates for the entire country

also, France, Great Britain, and Germany--lower murder rates
the numbers are too large and right there to argue

We have very real and very relevant differences from those countries that go far beyond gun laws

....here --plain as day--I see in all the comment sections ALL the time--and from you and 2A that Cali, LA, CHi, etc have strict gun laws but so many murders--BULLSHIT
their murder rates are LOWER than many pro-gun states
look at the map here-very pro-gun Mo, Texas, Alaska, etc
NYork, Cali, and Illinois firearm mortality rates LOWER

the MAIN point being you people ALWAYS bring up strict gun control in California and Chi as not working--but they ARE--as the numbers undeniably show
....you use Chicago as your BEST example of strict gun laws not working YET, very pro-gun St Louis has a much higher murder rate
....
AND --ADDED to that----- [ the HOME run that smashes ALL your arguments ] Chi is not even in the top ten most dangerous cities--but STL [ very pro-gun ] STL IS in the top ten--number 1 sometimes
the very PRO-gun city is the most dangerous city
this makes 2AGuy's crime states/etc irrelevant/nonsensical
case is closed
FBI:
St. Louis Is America's Most Dangerous City: FBI
STL news
St. Louis Bumps Detroit Out for Most Dangerous City
etc

file:///home/chronos/u-464bdf2ab53ed40cf166e800eb2be6351946d14c/Downloads/Stats%20of%20the%20States%20-%20Firearm%20Mortality.mhtml

 

[harmonica]

...let me say it again---the fact that smashes your Chicago bullshit
all I ever see in comments sections in CNN/ABC/Fox/Yahoo, etc is Chicago strict gun laws don't work--but they ARE
..Chicago is not even in the top ten most dangerous cities lists!!!
..Chicago is not even in the top ten most dangerous cities lists!!!
but very pro-gun St Louis is !!!

so stop with the Chicago strict gun laws crap
if you want to talk about NH/etc etc etc -- that's a different point/subject

 

[rightwinger]

Shows what happens when you introduce more guns into a society

 

[harmonica]

10 year high--and their rate is still many times LOWER than the US!!!!!!!

do you not see the ridiculousness of trying to use UK as a pro-gun argument???!!!!!!!?????


you are worse than fake news/CNN/etc

 

[Skull Pilot]

I've given you a link to the publication from the House of Commons multuple times and you know it

And it wasn't what you represented it as... kind of like TwoTiny's claims that Kellerman recanted.

So just because you say something isn't true in no way means it is false in fact with your record of duplicitousness just the opposite is true

Again, you should be able to show us the "Real" numbers if what you say is true, then?

Just how the **** am I supposed to know what murders the UK doesn't count

I gave you a ******* governemnt publication that says what they do

you as usual give nothing to support any of the SHIT you spew

 

[Skull Pilot]

10 year high--and their rate is still many times LOWER than the US!!!!!!!

do you not see the ridiculousness of trying to use UK as a pro-gun argument???!!!!!!!?????


you are worse than fake news/CNN/etc

So the **** what?

Move your sorry ass to the UK and bend the knee to the ******* queen like a good little sheep

 

[Skull Pilot]

Tell me why NH has a murder rate more than 4 times lower than CA despite CA having the harshest gun laws in the country

very bad, terrible comparison--WRONG
......anyone that graduated high school science/math knows for a hypothesis to be valid/etc using comparisons, the test subjects have be comparable/etc--ETC
..NH population 1.3 million
..Cali 39 million with twice the density

that's why
AND the laws are not federal

Funny how you talk about education yet you do not understand ratios

The murder RATE is murders per 100,00 it matters not if you compare different states because the RATIO accounts for population size

But if I didn't understand ratios and used your argument then your comparison of murder rates between the UK and the US is invalidated because the UK has a population od 66 million and the US has a population of 350 million

And no the laws are not federal which is why the comparison between states is relevant.

There are 23 states that have murder RATES less than CA and CA has the harshest gun laws in the country so if gun laws actually lowered murder rates then CA would have the lowest rate in the country and NH would have a much higher murder rate.

Our murder rate is driven by relatively few very distinct areas in the country that are ultra violent. These areas are those that are historically plagued by segregation, poverty, unemployment , underemployment, substandard education, crime, drugs and gangs.

70% of all murders occur in these areas which tend to be inner city neighborhoods that exist in very small areas of just 2% of all the counties in the US.

We do not have a gun problem. We have a cancer in our inner cities that breeds enough violence and murder so as to skew the rates for the entire country

also, France, Great Britain, and Germany--lower murder rates
the numbers are too large and right there to argue

We have very real and very relevant differences from those countries that go far beyond gun laws

....here --plain as day--I see in all the comment sections ALL the time--and from you and 2A that Cali, LA, CHi, etc have strict gun laws but so many murders--BULLSHIT
their murder rates are LOWER than many pro-gun states
look at the map here-very pro-gun Mo, Texas, Alaska, etc
NYork, Cali, and Illinois firearm mortality rates LOWER

the MAIN point being you people ALWAYS bring up strict gun control in California and Chi as not working--but they ARE--as the numbers undeniably show
....you use Chicago as your BEST example of strict gun laws not working YET, very pro-gun St Louis has a much higher murder rate
....
AND --ADDED to that----- [ the HOME run that smashes ALL your arguments ] Chi is not even in the top ten most dangerous cities--but STL [ very pro-gun ] STL IS in the top ten--number 1 sometimes
the very PRO-gun city is the most dangerous city
this makes 2AGuy's crime states/etc irrelevant/nonsensical
case is closed
FBI:
St. Louis Is America's Most Dangerous City: FBI
STL news
St. Louis Bumps Detroit Out for Most Dangerous City
etc

file:///home/chronos/u-464bdf2ab53ed40cf166e800eb2be6351946d14c/Downloads/Stats%20of%20the%20States%20-%20Firearm%20Mortality.mhtml

the Murder rate in CA is 4 times higher than NH and is higher than 23 other and many of those 23 states have far laxer gun laws

so it's not gun laws that lower murder rates

 

[Skull Pilot]

Shows what happens when you introduce more guns into a society

There are more guns in rural america than in urban america and the crime RATES are higher in urban america

 

[Pilot1]

Just make crime illegal. Ban crime! That will stop it.

 

[harmonica]

most US homicides are gun homicides

 

[harmonica]

UK--a pro-gun argument................???!!!!!!!

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Yep....young males, raised without fathers to teach them to be adult men, mixed with 3rd world males running the drug gangs, and the British police hamstrung due to lack of manpower, money, and politically correct rules of engagment.....

London on course for highest number of killings in a decade after 2018 passes 2017 total

You do realise that London isn't Britain...don't you?

Chicago isn't the United States either asshole!
Remove every illegal gun in every inner city shithole in the US and the 'gun violence' stats would fall dramatically.
How Bad Is Violence in Chicago? Depends on Your Race - The Atlantic

Our murder rate is skewed by just a handful of inner city areas in this country because 70% of all murder occurs in these very small very well defined areas of just 2% of all the counties in the country

Ok, if you want to play that game then we wont count London,Liverpool and Manchester. You are back in the same position.

 

[harmonica]

10 year high--and their rate is still many times LOWER than the US!!!!!!!

do you not see the ridiculousness of trying to use UK as a pro-gun argument???!!!!!!!?????


you are worse than fake news/CNN/etc

So the **** what?

Move your sorry ass to the UK and bend the knee to the ******* queen like a good little sheep

great argument/points/facts
that's usually the response when you know you've lost the argument

 

[harmonica]

Yep....young males, raised without fathers to teach them to be adult men, mixed with 3rd world males running the drug gangs, and the British police hamstrung due to lack of manpower, money, and politically correct rules of engagment.....

London on course for highest number of killings in a decade after 2018 passes 2017 total

You do realise that London isn't Britain...don't you?

Chicago isn't the United States either asshole!
Remove every illegal gun in every inner city shithole in the US and the 'gun violence' stats would fall dramatically.
How Bad Is Violence in Chicago? Depends on Your Race - The Atlantic

Our murder rate is skewed by just a handful of inner city areas in this country because 70% of all murder occurs in these very small very well defined areas of just 2% of all the counties in the country

so we don't want to try to cut this murder rate down?? wherever the murders are??
they are ok because they are in those areas?
they still add to the murder rate--you can't pick and choose