Gun death rates are the highest in mainly red states.

[2aguy]

2aguy, would the non-US suicide rates be higher if the populations had easier access to guns?

No......since their rates are already higher than ours, the people in those countries who really want to kill themselves are already doing it.

 

[westwall]

It does not take away that if you live in the state, with higher gun death rates, you have a greater chance of dying by firearm than if you lived in states with a lower gun death rate.
Thankgoodness highr population states don't have the death rate from guns that these states have.

BLUE cities.

DURRRRRR

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

No......since their rates are already higher than ours, the people in those countries who really want to kill themselves are already doing it.

... or the guns would make it an easier quicker alternative. I would use a gun although I would think I would feel nothing more if I jumped off the Empire State Building. That would engage some who are not doing it now.

 

[M14 Shooter]

I agree the 2nd ammendment is the right to bear ARMS, not just guns. Why are there so many arms that citizens do not and cannot own?

Because not every weapon falls under the defition of 'arms" as the term is used in the 2nd.

 

[2aguy]

... or the guns would make it an easier quicker alternative. I would use a gun although I would think I would feel nothing more if I jumped off the Empire State Building. That would engage some who are not doing it now.

And yet they still have higher suicide rates right now....so, you have no point.

Extreme gun control, and higher suicide rates......you have no point.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

And yet they still have higher suicide rates right now....so, you have no point.

Extreme gun control, and higher suicide rates......you have no point.

Your logic is not. Having access to guns would increase the already high rates.

 

[2aguy]

Your logic is not. Having access to guns would increase the already high rates.

No.....they do just fine without guns and the people in those countries whowant to die are already doing it

You jist cant get around the fact they kill themselves in higher numbers than we do with our guns

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

No.....they do just fine without guns and the people in those countries whowant to die are already doing it

You jist cant get around the fact they kill themselves in higher numbers than we do with our guns

Just stupid on your part. You cannot get around the fact that more access in those societies would increase suicide rates.

You gunners lack empathy.

 

[2aguy]

Just stupid on your part. You cannot get around the fact that more access in those societies would increase suicide rates.

You gunners lack empathy.

You can't face the fact that countries.....lots of countries....with extreme to total gun control have higher suicide rates......by a lot.......than we do......showing that guns are not the issue.......

You idiots lack wisdom and common sense....

Hey....idiot.....we have over 600 million guns in private hands.....and they still beat us for suicide.......you have to face that fact, you doofus.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

2aguy thinks easier access to guns in other countries would not increase suicide rates.

That is a complete cock up revealing his lack of reasoning skills.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

It does not take away that if you live in the state, with higher gun death rates, you have a greater chance of dying by firearm than if you lived in states with a lower gun death rate.
Thankgoodness highr population states don't have the death rate from guns that these states have.

Stop lying by including suicides and accidental shootings.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

Just stupid on your part. You cannot get around the fact that more access in those societies would increase suicide rates.

You gunners lack empathy.

Anti-gunners can't make an argument without lying.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Anti-gunners can't make an argument without lying.

Mild Bill, I own eleven fire arms. The OP's logic does not exist.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

Mild Bill, I own eleven fire arms. The OP's logic does not exist.

You seem to be siding with the OP.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Stop lying by including suicides and accidental shootings.

You can't be so stupid.
It is not a lie. It is a statistic using different metrics.
You are so stupid you probably don't know what a metric is or what satistics are.

 

[Wild Bill Kelsoe]

You can't be so stupid.
It is not a lie. It is a statistic using different metrics.
You are so stupid you probably don't know what a metric is or what satistics are.

It's a lie, because you know that "gun deaths" will automatically be interpreted as "murders". It's impossible for you people to make an honest argument.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

You seem to be siding with the OP.

I am saying that in nations that restrict firearms that if those restrictions were limited that already suicide rates would go up significantly.

 

[2aguy]

I am saying that in nations that restrict firearms that if those restrictions were limited that already suicide rates would go up significantly.

You can’t explain how it is that with 600 million guns in the U.S. why our gun suicide rate is lower than the suicide rate in all those other countries that have extreme gun control….

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

You can’t explain how it is that with 600 million guns in the U.S. why our gun suicide rate is lower than the suicide rate in all those other countries that have extreme gun control….

Immaterial. If we had less guns, we would have less suicides. It's a tool remember. Remove the tool.

 

[2aguy]

Immaterial. If we had less guns, we would have less suicides. It's a tool remember. Remove the tool.

We have 600 million guns....they have extreme gun control.....if your stupid point was accurate, our suicide rate would be higher than theirs...it isn't...you are a doofus.....