Guess what...Oklahoma is doing it anyway

[Moxie2]

The 5 people in Oklahoma that can read the commandments must be happy.

So your only comment is to insult an entire state?

Some states place more value on our rights and the constitution than on nanny government. I say it's a good thing.

I am tired of pandering to every person who illegally enters this country. We don't need immigration reform, we need to reform the way Washington handles things. They have ignored the laws for years and allowed illegal aliens to come and collect welfare and take jobs for little pay. We have millions who have refused to assimilate and that is causing a lot of problems in the schools and elsewhere. If they can't assimilate and obey the law, they don't need to be here.

If a scripture from the Koran (sp?) was to be erected on some 4' tall bronze tables or whatever and some group wanted it placed in front of a government building, I think they should be allowed to do it...if we're going to allow it for one religion, we should allow it for all.

Agree or disagree?

Disagree.

This is America, a country formed on Christian values.

If they want to see the Koran erected, they can go back to where the hell they came from.

 

[LuckyDuck01!]

All Oklahoma has to do now is to pass a law reinstating slavery and they will be truly happy.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Oklahoma is the only state that Obama did not win even one county in the last election... While everyone is focusing on Arizona ’s new law, look what Oklahoma has been doing!!!!

An update from Oklahoma :

Oklahoma law passed, 37 to 9 an amendment to place the Ten Commandments on the front entrance to the state capitol. The feds in D.C., along with the ACLU, said it would be a mistake. Hey this is a conservative state, based on Christian values...! HB 1330

Guess what.......... Oklahoma did it anyway.

Oklahoma recently passed a law in the state to incarcerate all illegal immigrants, and ship them back to where they came from unless they want to get a green card and become an American citizen. They all scattered. HB 1804. This was against the advice of the Federal Government, and the ACLU, they said it would be a mistake.

Guess what.......... Oklahoma did it anyway.

Recently it passed a law to include DNA samples from any and all illegal's to the Oklahoma database, for criminal investigative purposes. Pelosi said it was unconstitutional SB 1102

Guess what......... Oklahoma did it anyway.

Several weeks ago, it passed a law, declaring Oklahoma as a Sovereign state, not under the Federal Government directives. Joining Texas , Montana and Utah as the only states to do so.

More states are likely to follow: Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia, Carolina's, Tennessee, Kentucky, Missouri, Arkansas, West Virginia, Mississippi and Florida. It appears the South is about to rise up once again. HJR 1003

The federal Government has made bold steps to take away their guns. Oklahoma, a week ago, passed a law confirming people in this state have the right to bear arms and transport them in their vehicles. I'm sure that was a setback for the criminals The Liberals didn't like it -- But....

Guess what........... Oklahoma did it anyway.

Just this month, the state has voted and passed a law that ALL drivers’ license exams will be printed in English, and only English, and no other language. They have been called racist for doing this, but the fact is that ALL of the road signs are in English only. If you want to drive in Oklahoma , you must read and write English. Really simple.

By the way, the Liberals don't like any of this either

Guess what...who cares... Oklahoma is doing it anyway.

And here we see the fear, hate, and ignorance common to most on the reactionary right.

 

[JFK_USA]

The 5 people in Oklahoma that can read the commandments must be happy.

No wonder you have a slut as your avatar...we see political discussion evades 2 digit IQ'd liberals....

Yes, because a woman getting coverage for her birth control makes her a slut. Despite the fact Medicare pays millions of dollars to men for penis pumps, that's okay. But woman having sex? The horror.

 

[JFK_USA]

So your only comment is to insult an entire state?



Some states place more value on our rights and the constitution than on nanny government. I say it's a good thing.



I am tired of pandering to every person who illegally enters this country. We don't need immigration reform, we need to reform the way Washington handles things. They have ignored the laws for years and allowed illegal aliens to come and collect welfare and take jobs for little pay. We have millions who have refused to assimilate and that is causing a lot of problems in the schools and elsewhere. If they can't assimilate and obey the law, they don't need to be here.

If a scripture from the Koran (sp?) was to be erected on some 4' tall bronze tables or whatever and some group wanted it placed in front of a government building, I think they should be allowed to do it...if we're going to allow it for one religion, we should allow it for all.



Agree or disagree?

Disagree.



This is America, a country formed on Christian values.



If they want to see the Koran erected, they can go back to where the hell they came from.

Not sure if serious....... We have freedom of religion where government can't establish or promote any religion

 

[The Rabbi]

Oklahoma is the only state that Obama did not win even one county in the last election... While everyone is focusing on Arizona ’s new law, look what Oklahoma has been doing!!!!

An update from Oklahoma :

Oklahoma law passed, 37 to 9 an amendment to place the Ten Commandments on the front entrance to the state capitol. The feds in D.C., along with the ACLU, said it would be a mistake. Hey this is a conservative state, based on Christian values...! HB 1330

Guess what.......... Oklahoma did it anyway.

Oklahoma recently passed a law in the state to incarcerate all illegal immigrants, and ship them back to where they came from unless they want to get a green card and become an American citizen. They all scattered. HB 1804. This was against the advice of the Federal Government, and the ACLU, they said it would be a mistake.

Guess what.......... Oklahoma did it anyway.

Recently it passed a law to include DNA samples from any and all illegal's to the Oklahoma database, for criminal investigative purposes. Pelosi said it was unconstitutional SB 1102

Guess what......... Oklahoma did it anyway.

Several weeks ago, it passed a law, declaring Oklahoma as a Sovereign state, not under the Federal Government directives. Joining Texas , Montana and Utah as the only states to do so.

More states are likely to follow: Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia, Carolina's, Tennessee, Kentucky, Missouri, Arkansas, West Virginia, Mississippi and Florida. It appears the South is about to rise up once again. HJR 1003

The federal Government has made bold steps to take away their guns. Oklahoma, a week ago, passed a law confirming people in this state have the right to bear arms and transport them in their vehicles. I'm sure that was a setback for the criminals The Liberals didn't like it -- But....

Guess what........... Oklahoma did it anyway.

Just this month, the state has voted and passed a law that ALL drivers’ license exams will be printed in English, and only English, and no other language. They have been called racist for doing this, but the fact is that ALL of the road signs are in English only. If you want to drive in Oklahoma , you must read and write English. Really simple.

By the way, the Liberals don't like any of this either

Guess what...who cares... Oklahoma is doing it anyway.

And here we see the fear, hate, and ignorance common to most on the reactionary right.

That's ironic, right?
In this very thread you've got an alleged attorney who can't distinguish Oklahoma from Kentucky, slanders against the people of Oklahoma, slanders against the entire male gender--and you think the far right trades in fear hate and ignorance??? WTF, dude?

 

[BDBoop]

The 5 people in Oklahoma that can read the commandments must be happy.

No wonder you have a slut as your avatar...we see political discussion evades 2 digit IQ'd liberals....

And again, Sandra brings out the sexist pig that lurks within all conservatives...

You'll have to excuse Virgin. TBI is my guess. S'tragic, really.

 

[aaronleland]

I can't see a problem with most of those laws. They aren't encroaching on another citizen's civil rights.

People protesting Ten Commandments displays should really pick battles worth fighting, and quit wasting time on trivial bullshit.

 

[ScienceRocks]

I think all hard core conservatives should become Muslim. seriously, no one ***** with them and your idea's would advance much better within the society...

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The 5 people in Oklahoma that can read the commandments must be happy.

No wonder you have a slut as your avatar...we see political discussion evades 2 digit IQ'd liberals....

And again, Sandra brings out the sexist pig that lurks within all conservatives...

It also represents the fear common to most conservatives when Americans express their individual liberty.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

No wonder you have a slut as your avatar...we see political discussion evades 2 digit IQ'd liberals....

And again, Sandra brings out the sexist pig that lurks within all conservatives...

It also represents the fear common to most conservatives when Americans express their individual liberty.

The fear I see is Liberals afraid their dear leader will be labeled the failure he is. The loss of the Senate and any chance to screw the US anymore. The left not the right wants to curtail free speech, the left not the right wants to curtail the freedom of assembly, the left not the right wants to deny religion to those that are religious.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I can't see a problem with most of those laws. They aren't encroaching on another citizen's civil rights.

People protesting Ten Commandments displays should really pick battles worth fighting, and quit wasting time on trivial bullshit.

Then you’re not paying attention, or don’t understanding the issues involved.

Seeking to conjoin church and state in violation of the First Amendment and the Framers’ mandate that church and state remain separate undermines the religious freedom of all Americans (County of Allegheny v. American Civil Liberties Union (1989)).

Seeking to deny immigrants their due process rights – regardless their immigration status – is a violation of the 14th Amendment (Plyler v. Doe (1984)).

‘English only’ measures are un-Constitutional, a violation of the First Amendment rights of non-English speaking persons with regard to their ability to access government, placing limits on their right to free speech and expression (Ruiz v. Hull, 957 P.2d 984 (Ariz. 1998)).

And the ignorant idiocy of a ‘sovereign state’ violates the Supremacy Clause of the US Constitution, where states and local jurisdictions are subject to the Constitution, its case law, Federal laws, and the rulings of Federal courts (Cooper v. Aaron (1958)).

Consequently, advocacy of such measures do indeed violate the rights of individuals, and represents the ignorance of, and contempt for, the Constitution and its case law common among most conservatives.

Defending the civil liberties of all persons living in the United States is neither a ‘waste of time’ nor ‘trivial,’ there is no more important fight.

 

[Sallow]

Oklahoma is the only state that Obama did not win even one county in the last election... While everyone is focusing on Arizona ’s new law, look what Oklahoma has been doing!!!!

An update from Oklahoma :

Oklahoma law passed, 37 to 9 an amendment to place the Ten Commandments on the front entrance to the state capitol. The feds in D.C., along with the ACLU, said it would be a mistake. Hey this is a conservative state, based on Christian values...! HB 1330

Guess what.......... Oklahoma did it anyway.

Oklahoma recently passed a law in the state to incarcerate all illegal immigrants, and ship them back to where they came from unless they want to get a green card and become an American citizen. They all scattered. HB 1804. This was against the advice of the Federal Government, and the ACLU, they said it would be a mistake.

Guess what.......... Oklahoma did it anyway.

Recently it passed a law to include DNA samples from any and all illegal's to the Oklahoma database, for criminal investigative purposes. Pelosi said it was unconstitutional SB 1102

Guess what......... Oklahoma did it anyway.

Several weeks ago, it passed a law, declaring Oklahoma as a Sovereign state, not under the Federal Government directives. Joining Texas , Montana and Utah as the only states to do so.

More states are likely to follow: Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia, Carolina's, Tennessee, Kentucky, Missouri, Arkansas, West Virginia, Mississippi and Florida. It appears the South is about to rise up once again. HJR 1003

The federal Government has made bold steps to take away their guns. Oklahoma, a week ago, passed a law confirming people in this state have the right to bear arms and transport them in their vehicles. I'm sure that was a setback for the criminals The Liberals didn't like it -- But....

Guess what........... Oklahoma did it anyway.

Just this month, the state has voted and passed a law that ALL drivers’ license exams will be printed in English, and only English, and no other language. They have been called racist for doing this, but the fact is that ALL of the road signs are in English only. If you want to drive in Oklahoma , you must read and write English. Really simple.

By the way, the Liberals don't like any of this either

Guess what...who cares... Oklahoma is doing it anyway.

Oklahoma is a state with a little over 3 million people. Queens, which is a BOROUGH of New York City has close to 3 Million.

So basically this really doesn't have an affect on many people.

However, once these laws get challenged? Which inevitably they will?

They rarely survive.

And it's already begun.

Devil-worship group unveils satanic statue design for Oklahoma State Capitol - NY Daily News

 

[hjmick]

The 5 people in Oklahoma that can read the commandments must be happy.

Bigot.




I don't have a problem with any of those laws. Even the Ten Commandments thing and I'm as close to being an Atheist as one can get without actually getting there.


I'm curious about why they are calling the English only driving tests "racist..."

 

[candycorn]

So your only comment is to insult an entire state?

Some states place more value on our rights and the constitution than on nanny government. I say it's a good thing.

I am tired of pandering to every person who illegally enters this country. We don't need immigration reform, we need to reform the way Washington handles things. They have ignored the laws for years and allowed illegal aliens to come and collect welfare and take jobs for little pay. We have millions who have refused to assimilate and that is causing a lot of problems in the schools and elsewhere. If they can't assimilate and obey the law, they don't need to be here.

If a scripture from the Koran (sp?) was to be erected on some 4' tall bronze tables or whatever and some group wanted it placed in front of a government building, I think they should be allowed to do it...if we're going to allow it for one religion, we should allow it for all.

Agree or disagree?

I agree, as long as you take four Sharia Laws

1st, When outside you will have to have a black burlap bag (burka) put over your face
2nd, Penalty for rape will be stoning the woman
3rd, Only the man can divorce a woman, not the other way around
4th, Girls at age 6 can be sold to old men for marriage and breeding.

If we're going to do that, no more football since touching the skin of a dead pig makes one unclean (from the Bible), we can sell our daughters into slavery, we can stone people to death for working on Sunday (again no more football) and planting crops of 2 different types side by side.


Always happy to have this debate with Conservatives.... Especially since many (if not all) conservatives love to try to portray themselves as sleeping under the Constitution at night and never leaving their home unless cloaked in it. And nowhere in it is there a national religion mentioned.

It just highlights the intolerance.

 

[FJO]

Article in Reader's Digest, December, 1982:

People are unreasonable, illogical and self-centered. Love them anyway.

If you do good, people will accuse you of selfish ulterior motives. Do good anyway.

If you are successful, you will win false friends and true enemies. Succeed anyway.

Honesty and frankness make you vulnerable. Be honest and frank anyway.

The good you do today will be forgotten tomorrow. Do good anyway.

The biggest people with the biggest ideas can be shut down by the smallest people with the smallest idea. Think big anyway.

People favor underdogs but follow top dogs. Fight for the underdog anyway.

What you spend years building may be destroyed overnight. Build anyway.

Give the world the best you have and you'll be kicked in the teeth. Give the world the best anyway.


The good people of Oklahoma may very well have been inspired by this Reader's Digest article, crafting their law. Maybe they are just decent folks and deserve our respects, ANYWAY.

 

[candycorn]

As usual, the libtard plays either a race or sexist card

When you call someone you've never met, never will meet, or never will meet anyone who has met her a "slut"....it's calling you an idiot.

It was a stupid, sexist comment you made....and it surprised no one.

According to the Koran, she is a slut, no Burqa

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If you're female...so are you most likely.

 

[candycorn]

The 5 people in Oklahoma that can read the commandments must be happy.

ALINSKY RULE #12: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.” Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy. Go after people and not institutions; people hurt faster than institutions. (This is cruel, but very effective. Direct, personalized criticism and ridicule works.)

My goodness people...it's a joke.

 

[FJO]

Oklahoma is the only state that Obama did not win even one county in the last election... While everyone is focusing on Arizona ’s new law, look what Oklahoma has been doing!!!!

An update from Oklahoma :

Oklahoma law passed, 37 to 9 an amendment to place the Ten Commandments on the front entrance to the state capitol. The feds in D.C., along with the ACLU, said it would be a mistake. Hey this is a conservative state, based on Christian values...! HB 1330

Guess what.......... Oklahoma did it anyway.

Oklahoma recently passed a law in the state to incarcerate all illegal immigrants, and ship them back to where they came from unless they want to get a green card and become an American citizen. They all scattered. HB 1804. This was against the advice of the Federal Government, and the ACLU, they said it would be a mistake.

Guess what.......... Oklahoma did it anyway.

Recently it passed a law to include DNA samples from any and all illegal's to the Oklahoma database, for criminal investigative purposes. Pelosi said it was unconstitutional SB 1102

Guess what......... Oklahoma did it anyway.

Several weeks ago, it passed a law, declaring Oklahoma as a Sovereign state, not under the Federal Government directives. Joining Texas , Montana and Utah as the only states to do so.

More states are likely to follow: Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia, Carolina's, Tennessee, Kentucky, Missouri, Arkansas, West Virginia, Mississippi and Florida. It appears the South is about to rise up once again. HJR 1003

The federal Government has made bold steps to take away their guns. Oklahoma, a week ago, passed a law confirming people in this state have the right to bear arms and transport them in their vehicles. I'm sure that was a setback for the criminals The Liberals didn't like it -- But....

Guess what........... Oklahoma did it anyway.

Just this month, the state has voted and passed a law that ALL drivers’ license exams will be printed in English, and only English, and no other language. They have been called racist for doing this, but the fact is that ALL of the road signs are in English only. If you want to drive in Oklahoma , you must read and write English. Really simple.

By the way, the Liberals don't like any of this either

Guess what...who cares... Oklahoma is doing it anyway.

Oklahoma is a state with a little over 3 million people. Queens, which is a BOROUGH of New York City has close to 3 Million.

So basically this really doesn't have an affect on many people.

However, once these laws get challenged? Which inevitably they will?

They rarely survive.

And it's already begun.

Devil-worship group unveils satanic statue design for Oklahoma State Capitol - NY Daily News

Typical liberal thinking: Quantity matters, quality does not.

 

[rightwinger]

Wow good job by Oklahoma legislators passing legislation that they will have to defend in court and ultimately lose

Why don't they ban abortion, criminalize gays and require school prayer while they are at it?
Conservatives will eat it up