Gruber: Biggest Ass in America?

[The Rabbi]

those are generalizations, not examples.

OK. I'll give you one.

Obama abolished the Federal student employment programs, including the Student Career Experience Program. He replaced them -- they were popular and allowed for flexible recruitment as well as the ability to hire the student into a career job non-competitively upon graduation -- with a system that only allows for use of USAJobs.gov (if you've ever tried to get a government job that way, you'd know why that's totally dysfunctional.

Agencies objected but the WH insisted.

so he went to a fairer, more competitive system.
the horror.

If you knew anything about USAJobs and the way it has corrupted the merit system, you wouldn't make that comment,

It has not made the system fairer, easier, or more meritorious.

It has made it less of all of those.

how so?

Let me suggest a little exercise to you.

Post your resume on USAJobs and see how far you get.

Then get back to me.

The government doesnt hire high school sophomores.

 

[boedicca]

It's not a crime. It is purely political, but it concerns the integrity of how laws are developed, passed and implemented.

It is an appropriate use of the Congressional investigatory power which is for legislative purposes.

BTW, Congress's investigatory power is not to prosecute crimes. (I know the Constitution is stumbling point for you lefties).

so you're telling me that Congress needs to run an investigation to understand how laws get made?
at least you're willing to admit that this is all political theater.

No, they need to know what errors and mistakes were made in developing certain laws so they can fix them.

(Is this such a hard concept?)

you and i both know that that isn't why they're having gruber testify. what questions about the process did goudy ask? any?

the whole point is to point fingers at democrats call names and feign outrage, but there is no constructive purpose to the hearings.

So you think Congress should just cover up the fact that the people who developed Obamacare have contempt for Americans and used dishonest tactics in implementing it?

i don't think it's congress's job to cover up or expose that. it certainly doesn't necessitate hearings.

You don't think it's Congress' job to find out if ObamaCare was passed via fraudulent means (i.e., cooking the CBO score)?

Of course you don't. The ends justify the means.

 

[The Rabbi]

those are generalizations, not examples.

Oh, but he is. He is an incompetent Chief Executive.

I had to work in his administration. It was terrible.

You're failing left and right to make your case. And no one MADE you work under his administration, either. [[[[twit]]]

I was a career civil servant. Until I could retire without affecting my standard of living, I had no choice.

Both my parents had civil service jobs that gave me a leg up in life. My father went from active duty to civil service.......his entire adult life serving the country. And the country respected him for it. Today's civil servants are NOT RESPECTED BY CONSERVATIVES.

Figure it out.

What a crank you are., You denigrate her for sucking off the taxpayer and then say civil servants arent respected by conservatives.

You ******* moron. I'm "denigrating" her for not supporting her own interests. I mock her in a sarcastic tone as you would mock her in a serious tone. You are too stupid to tell the difference. It is why you suck at this format. You can't hang.

Did you not describe her work as sucking off the taxpayer? Yes or no?

 

[AmericanGirl05]

I said 7 Administrations, including Obama. Figure it out.

Jesus, you're older than Methuselah. What's your *****? You probably have health care for the rest of your life, too.

Yes, and I worked for everything I have.

And nice ageist crack there.

Of course you did. But the idiots you support don't think you are worth a shit. Wake up.

In my experience, it was the Obama Administration and to a lesser extent, the Clinton Administration, that treated us like political pawns.

The Obama Administration was particularly contemptous of the rank and file.

Damn.....you are full of shit. Try harder. In what way is the Obama administration contemptuous of civil servants? Give us something indisputable for a ******* change.

I said what it is.

They treat us like mushrooms, they don't respect our professional opinion. They make us work for the worst managers in 40 years.

And you can go to the OPM website and look at the results from the survey.

 

[ogibillm]

those are generalizations, not examples.

OK. I'll give you one.

Obama abolished the Federal student employment programs, including the Student Career Experience Program. He replaced them -- they were popular and allowed for flexible recruitment as well as the ability to hire the student into a career job non-competitively upon graduation -- with a system that only allows for use of USAJobs.gov (if you've ever tried to get a government job that way, you'd know why that's totally dysfunctional.

Agencies objected but the WH insisted.

so he went to a fairer, more competitive system.
the horror.

If you knew anything about USAJobs and the way it has corrupted the merit system, you wouldn't make that comment,

It has not made the system fairer, easier, or more meritorious.

It has made it less of all of those.

how so?

Let me suggest a little exercise to you.

Post your resume on USAJobs and see how far you get.

Then get back to me.

if everyone uses the same system, how is it unfair?

 

[AmericanGirl05]

It's not a crime. It is purely political, but it concerns the integrity of how laws are developed, passed and implemented.

It is an appropriate use of the Congressional investigatory power which is for legislative purposes.

BTW, Congress's investigatory power is not to prosecute crimes. (I know the Constitution is stumbling point for you lefties).

so you're telling me that Congress needs to run an investigation to understand how laws get made?
at least you're willing to admit that this is all political theater.

No, they need to know what errors and mistakes were made in developing certain laws so they can fix them.

(Is this such a hard concept?)

you and i both know that that isn't why they're having gruber testify. what questions about the process did goudy ask? any?

the whole point is to point fingers at democrats call names and feign outrage, but there is no constructive purpose to the hearings.

So you think Congress should just cover up the fact that the people who developed Obamacare have contempt for Americans and used dishonest tactics in implementing it?

i don't think it's congress's job to cover up or expose that. it certainly doesn't necessitate hearings.

What do you think their job is?

Rolling over for Obama?

 

[LoneLaugher]

Jesus, you're older than Methuselah. What's your *****? You probably have health care for the rest of your life, too.

Yes, and I worked for everything I have.

And nice ageist crack there.

Of course you did. But the idiots you support don't think you are worth a shit. Wake up.

In my experience, it was the Obama Administration and to a lesser extent, the Clinton Administration, that treated us like political pawns.

The Obama Administration was particularly contemptous of the rank and file.

Damn.....you are full of shit. Try harder. In what way is the Obama administration contemptuous of civil servants? Give us something indisputable for a ******* change.

I said what it is.

They treat us like mushrooms, they don't respect our professional opinion. They make us work for the worst managers in 40 years.

And you can go to the OPM website and look at the results from the survey.

All opinion.......let's have some hard facts.

 

[ogibillm]

so you're telling me that Congress needs to run an investigation to understand how laws get made?
at least you're willing to admit that this is all political theater.

No, they need to know what errors and mistakes were made in developing certain laws so they can fix them.

(Is this such a hard concept?)

you and i both know that that isn't why they're having gruber testify. what questions about the process did goudy ask? any?

the whole point is to point fingers at democrats call names and feign outrage, but there is no constructive purpose to the hearings.

So you think Congress should just cover up the fact that the people who developed Obamacare have contempt for Americans and used dishonest tactics in implementing it?

i don't think it's congress's job to cover up or expose that. it certainly doesn't necessitate hearings.

You don't think it's Congress' job to find out if ObamaCare was passed via fraudulent means (i.e., cooking the CBO score)?

Of course you don't. The ends justify the means.

where is the fraud? did the cbo not have the bill?
is a cbo score necessary to pass a bill?

 

[LoneLaugher]

You're failing left and right to make your case. And no one MADE you work under his administration, either. [[[[twit]]]

I was a career civil servant. Until I could retire without affecting my standard of living, I had no choice.

Both my parents had civil service jobs that gave me a leg up in life. My father went from active duty to civil service.......his entire adult life serving the country. And the country respected him for it. Today's civil servants are NOT RESPECTED BY CONSERVATIVES.

Figure it out.

What a crank you are., You denigrate her for sucking off the taxpayer and then say civil servants arent respected by conservatives.

You ******* moron. I'm "denigrating" her for not supporting her own interests. I mock her in a sarcastic tone as you would mock her in a serious tone. You are too stupid to tell the difference. It is why you suck at this format. You can't hang.

Did you not describe her work as sucking off the taxpayer? Yes or no?

Do you not understand sarcasm.....yes or no?

 

[Vigilante]

 

[ogibillm]

so you're telling me that Congress needs to run an investigation to understand how laws get made?
at least you're willing to admit that this is all political theater.

No, they need to know what errors and mistakes were made in developing certain laws so they can fix them.

(Is this such a hard concept?)

you and i both know that that isn't why they're having gruber testify. what questions about the process did goudy ask? any?

the whole point is to point fingers at democrats call names and feign outrage, but there is no constructive purpose to the hearings.

So you think Congress should just cover up the fact that the people who developed Obamacare have contempt for Americans and used dishonest tactics in implementing it?

i don't think it's congress's job to cover up or expose that. it certainly doesn't necessitate hearings.

What do you think their job is?

Rolling over for Obama?

i think they're the legislature. if they have a problem with how the aca works, they should legislate a solution instead of producing a politcal dog and pony show.

 

[boedicca]

No, they need to know what errors and mistakes were made in developing certain laws so they can fix them.

(Is this such a hard concept?)

you and i both know that that isn't why they're having gruber testify. what questions about the process did goudy ask? any?

the whole point is to point fingers at democrats call names and feign outrage, but there is no constructive purpose to the hearings.

So you think Congress should just cover up the fact that the people who developed Obamacare have contempt for Americans and used dishonest tactics in implementing it?

i don't think it's congress's job to cover up or expose that. it certainly doesn't necessitate hearings.

You don't think it's Congress' job to find out if ObamaCare was passed via fraudulent means (i.e., cooking the CBO score)?

Of course you don't. The ends justify the means.

where is the fraud? did the cbo not have the bill?
is a cbo score necessary to pass a bill?

Please read a basic civics textbook.

 

[AmericanGirl05]

OK. I'll give you one.

Obama abolished the Federal student employment programs, including the Student Career Experience Program. He replaced them -- they were popular and allowed for flexible recruitment as well as the ability to hire the student into a career job non-competitively upon graduation -- with a system that only allows for use of USAJobs.gov (if you've ever tried to get a government job that way, you'd know why that's totally dysfunctional.

Agencies objected but the WH insisted.

so he went to a fairer, more competitive system.
the horror.

If you knew anything about USAJobs and the way it has corrupted the merit system, you wouldn't make that comment,

It has not made the system fairer, easier, or more meritorious.

It has made it less of all of those.

how so?

Let me suggest a little exercise to you.

Post your resume on USAJobs and see how far you get.

Then get back to me.

if everyone uses the same system, how is it unfair?

Because thousands of people apply for the same job. The rating system for qualifications does not take into effect qualitatitive factors (like University of Phoenix is the same as Harvard, for example). The system relies upon candidates' self-assessment.

Like I said, try it.

 

[The Rabbi]

so you're telling me that Congress needs to run an investigation to understand how laws get made?
at least you're willing to admit that this is all political theater.

No, they need to know what errors and mistakes were made in developing certain laws so they can fix them.

(Is this such a hard concept?)

you and i both know that that isn't why they're having gruber testify. what questions about the process did goudy ask? any?

the whole point is to point fingers at democrats call names and feign outrage, but there is no constructive purpose to the hearings.

So you think Congress should just cover up the fact that the people who developed Obamacare have contempt for Americans and used dishonest tactics in implementing it?

i don't think it's congress's job to cover up or expose that. it certainly doesn't necessitate hearings.

You don't think it's Congress' job to find out if ObamaCare was passed via fraudulent means (i.e., cooking the CBO score)?

Of course you don't. The ends justify the means.

They dont think Congress needs to do anything but enact whatever Obama wants.

 

[The Rabbi]

I was a career civil servant. Until I could retire without affecting my standard of living, I had no choice.

Both my parents had civil service jobs that gave me a leg up in life. My father went from active duty to civil service.......his entire adult life serving the country. And the country respected him for it. Today's civil servants are NOT RESPECTED BY CONSERVATIVES.

Figure it out.

What a crank you are., You denigrate her for sucking off the taxpayer and then say civil servants arent respected by conservatives.

You ******* moron. I'm "denigrating" her for not supporting her own interests. I mock her in a sarcastic tone as you would mock her in a serious tone. You are too stupid to tell the difference. It is why you suck at this format. You can't hang.

Did you not describe her work as sucking off the taxpayer? Yes or no?

Do you not understand sarcasm.....yes or no?

Did you say that? How could that have been sarcasm?

 

[NYcarbineer]

The GOP doesn't even want to repeal the ACA at this point, that's the beauty of this.

 

[AmericanGirl05]

OK. I'll give you one.

Obama abolished the Federal student employment programs, including the Student Career Experience Program. He replaced them -- they were popular and allowed for flexible recruitment as well as the ability to hire the student into a career job non-competitively upon graduation -- with a system that only allows for use of USAJobs.gov (if you've ever tried to get a government job that way, you'd know why that's totally dysfunctional.

Agencies objected but the WH insisted.

so he went to a fairer, more competitive system.
the horror.

If you knew anything about USAJobs and the way it has corrupted the merit system, you wouldn't make that comment,

It has not made the system fairer, easier, or more meritorious.

It has made it less of all of those.

how so?

Let me suggest a little exercise to you.

Post your resume on USAJobs and see how far you get.

Then get back to me.

The government doesnt hire high school sophomores.

LOL

They used to, in the Stay in School program, which was abolished because it didn't work.

 

[ogibillm]

so he went to a fairer, more competitive system.
the horror.

If you knew anything about USAJobs and the way it has corrupted the merit system, you wouldn't make that comment,

It has not made the system fairer, easier, or more meritorious.

It has made it less of all of those.

how so?

Let me suggest a little exercise to you.

Post your resume on USAJobs and see how far you get.

Then get back to me.

if everyone uses the same system, how is it unfair?

Because thousands of people apply for the same job. The rating system for qualifications does not take into effect qualitatitive factors (like University of Phoenix is the same as Harvard, for example). The system relies upon candidates' self-assessment.

Like I said, try it.

but again, same system.
i get that it's probably not perfect, but i don't see how its unfair to put everyone into the same pot instead of giving some people the express lane

 

[ogibillm]

you and i both know that that isn't why they're having gruber testify. what questions about the process did goudy ask? any?

the whole point is to point fingers at democrats call names and feign outrage, but there is no constructive purpose to the hearings.

So you think Congress should just cover up the fact that the people who developed Obamacare have contempt for Americans and used dishonest tactics in implementing it?

i don't think it's congress's job to cover up or expose that. it certainly doesn't necessitate hearings.

You don't think it's Congress' job to find out if ObamaCare was passed via fraudulent means (i.e., cooking the CBO score)?

Of course you don't. The ends justify the means.

where is the fraud? did the cbo not have the bill?
is a cbo score necessary to pass a bill?

Please read a basic civics textbook.

answer the ******* question.
where is the fraud?

 

[AmericanGirl05]

Yes, and I worked for everything I have.

And nice ageist crack there.

Of course you did. But the idiots you support don't think you are worth a shit. Wake up.

In my experience, it was the Obama Administration and to a lesser extent, the Clinton Administration, that treated us like political pawns.

The Obama Administration was particularly contemptous of the rank and file.

Damn.....you are full of shit. Try harder. In what way is the Obama administration contemptuous of civil servants? Give us something indisputable for a ******* change.

I said what it is.

They treat us like mushrooms, they don't respect our professional opinion. They make us work for the worst managers in 40 years.

And you can go to the OPM website and look at the results from the survey.

All opinion.......let's have some hard facts.

You don't want facts unless they glorify Obama.

You dismiss all other evidence.

 

[AmericanGirl05]

If you knew anything about USAJobs and the way it has corrupted the merit system, you wouldn't make that comment,

It has not made the system fairer, easier, or more meritorious.

It has made it less of all of those.

how so?

Let me suggest a little exercise to you.

Post your resume on USAJobs and see how far you get.

Then get back to me.

if everyone uses the same system, how is it unfair?

Because thousands of people apply for the same job. The rating system for qualifications does not take into effect qualitatitive factors (like University of Phoenix is the same as Harvard, for example). The system relies upon candidates' self-assessment.

Like I said, try it.

but again, same system.
i get that it's probably not perfect, but i don't see how its unfair to put everyone into the same pot instead of giving some people the express lane

Because you don't know the system.

If you had any knowledge of it whatsoever, you would understand what a piece of garbage it is.

Self-assessment? The guy next to you lies to say he's a Nobel Laureate in chemistry and all you have is a masters from Berkeley and 10 years of experience.

He gets the job.