Grifter Zelensky Gets Hysterical: If Ukraine Falls, then so does America!!!!

[otto105]

What about Ukraine, pray tell?

 

[otto105]

If anyone, even for a millisecond, ever doubted that you Lefties are completely out of your fuckin' minds?

Exhibit A.

Naw, it's the former 1-term fuckup thinking about nuking a hurricane..

 

[RhodyPatriot]

Naw, it's the former 1-term fuckup thinking about nuking a hurricane..

But not a quote or video to be found anywheres

You should open an obituary to the memory of journalism.

After all: You fuckin murdered and buried all independent thought.

 

[otto105]

But not a quote or video to be found anywheres

You should open an obituary to the memory of journalism.

After all: You fuckin murdered and buried all independent thought.

Did Trump Ask Advisers About 'Nuking' Hurricanes?

This would be from the same guy who wanted to research disinfectants and UV light in a human body to kill COVID

 

[ColonelAngus]

My only complaint about Trump’s perfect telephone call to Zelensky is him not telling the Ukrainian leader what a pathetic fuck-up he is.

Let’s be clear here. The USA has no national interest in the Ukraine-Russia war except to the extent one conjectures that it threatens the borders of NATO countries. But Putin will not be a threat to NATO member because they are NATO members. Putin is well aware of the terms of the NATO security pact and, therefore, knows that if he threatens, say Poland, then war will ensue between him and NATO, led by the USA. His nuclear capabilities will not stop this. The concept of mutually assured destruction makes any use of nuclear weapons, tactical or intercontinental, by Putin his suicide. Russian leaders always appear to be butchering pricks to us. But they are not irrational.

Zelensky is a silly little goofball, and most likely quite corrupt. We send him billions of dollars for the defense of his country against Russia. You are a fool if you think he is not skimming these funds. When Ukraine falls (and it will), this nut job will live like a king in western exile. He will probably write a book (with the help of a ghost writer) and work as a regular contributor for CNN.

The USA has no obligation to help Ukraine fight Russia. But, we have. But for our assistance Ukraine would have already fallen to Russia. Thus, Zelenskyy pleads for more help. This relationship is not sustainable for either Ukraine or America. Further, it is prolonging a war that does that does not need to be prolonged. We need to be leaning on both sides right now to stop the fighting. There is an agreement that can be reached (e.g., give Russia the ethnic Russian provinces along with the land bridge to Crimea, then immediately admit Ukraine to NATO; etc…). Nothing good will result from this conflict continuing.

Now there are reason-based rumblings in America that maybe we ought to get out of this quagmire in Ukraine. Ultimately, Zelensky wants the USA to finance and fight their war. Most Americans do not want to do this. However, they are not getting to voice their opinions very loudly, as some of the money being sent to Ukraine is not specifically authorized for that purpose by Congress. The People are being bypassed in this process.

But as these domestic rumblings of concern grow, Zelensky is now plainly making up scenarios to scare Americans. He tells Americans that if we do not fight and defeat Putin in Ukraine, then Putin will go into the Baltics and move west. I say, hogwash! As stated herein, Putin knows better than to cross a border into a NATO country. That’s largely why he invaded Ukraine: he did not want it to become a NATO member state.

Zelensky is not Winston Churchill. Nor is he anything related to the fictional leaders created in the minds of American media. He is certainly not someone worth putting our full weight behind. Personally, I have never been in favor of giving them weapons. Our contribution to Ukraine should be limited to humanitarian and medical aid.

This conflict does, however, show that NATO is still relevant. But for the organization Putin, would have their eyes on taking every Central European country that Stalin took over while pushing the German forces back into Germany during WWII. Having a buffer of territory around mother Russia is a primary tenet of Russian foreign policy for a very long time.

And if Putin decides to attack a NATO state, then so be it. It will be WWIII, most likely. Conflict will also likely breakout in the far East and Mudfle East. But it will be Putin’s suicide. It will also be his destiny to go down in history as one of the worst mass murderers in the history of humankind.

But the claim that Putin will move against other countries notwithstanding their status of NATO membership UNLESS he is defeated in Ukraine is pure conjecture and is unsupported by logic and fact. Essentially, Zelensky is lying to the American voters in an attempt to save his own ass by keeping the spigot flowing with cash and arms.

Zelensky: America Will 'Lose NATO' if it Pulls Military Support from Ukraine

"If they do not change their opinion... they will lose NATO" and "the leadership position in the world," Zelesnky said of U.S. war sceptics.

www.breitbart.com

Wow. You have crysyalized my thoughts eloquently! Fantastic post. Spot on.

I did not read the thread yet, but I am sure some cult fucks called you a Putin sympathizer.

 

[Ringo]

Why is the territorial integrity of Ukraine, which has lay down under its new masters, sacred, but the territorial integrity of independent Yugoslavia is not?
How does the State Department explain this phenomenon, apart from "Thisisacompletelydifferent!" chant?
Hypocrisy?

 

[Votto]

The only real way to stop an asshole like Putin is to go to Moscow and remove him. Russia is well known to not give a damn about the death of their people and will continue to throw wave after wave at ukraine. The problem is only the United states is capable of doing the offensive military moves that are necessary.

The US voters are the same as 300 people a day drop dead from drugs pouring across the border, which means the US loses every year about the same number of people the US lost for the entire Vietnam war, yet they keep electing the same people over and over and over.

The media largely drives this. If the media came out against the Ukraine war like it did Vietnam, then public sentiment would matter all of a sudden. It's all about the power of propaganda.

 

[jc456]

Opposing russian aggression.

Wasn't that a tenet of the Cold War republic pols?

Why do you care? How’s it affect your life?

 

[jc456]

Why is the territorial integrity of Ukraine, which has lay down under its new masters, sacred, but the territorial integrity of independent Yugoslavia is not?
How does the State Department explain this phenomenon, apart from "Thisisacompletelydifferent!" chant?
Hypocrisy?

Can you say xiden owes them?

 

[jc456]

The only real way to stop an asshole like Putin is to go to Moscow and remove him. Russia is well known to not give a damn about the death of their people and will continue to throw wave after wave at ukraine. The problem is only the United states is capable of doing the offensive military moves that are necessary.

Why don’t you care as much for your fellow blacks suffering in the plantations?

What did Putin do to us?

 

[jc456]

Opposing russian aggression.

Wasn't that a tenet of the Cold War republic pols?

I still oppose the treatment of women in Iran and Afghanistan.

 

[jc456]

Why can’t you summarize your own thoughts? I don’t care to listen to mumbling joe!

 

[jc456]

The US voters are the same as 300 people a day drop dead from drugs pouring across the border, which means the US loses every year about the same number of people the US lost for the entire Vietnam war, yet they keep electing the same people over and over and over.

The media largely drives this. If the media came out against the Ukraine war like it did Vietnam, then public sentiment would matter all of a sudden. It's all about the power of propaganda.

What about Kim Jung?

 

[Votto]

I still oppose the treatment of women in Iran and Afghanistan.

Hell man, I oppose the treatment of women in the US.

And yes, I still call them women, something the Left is doing their best to destroy in favor of some unisex Zombie culture.

 

[Votto]

What about Kim Jung?

What about him?

 

[j-mac]

Breitbart? That's hilarious!

What'd they get wrong? Be sure to quote exactly relevant parts with a coherent explanation of why it is wrong....Thanks.

 

[jc456]

What about him?

Some demofk In here asked me about Putin I asked what about Kim Jung

 

[jc456]

Opposing russian aggression.

Wasn't that a tenet of the Cold War republic pols?

What about Afghanistan? China? Iran?

 

[otto105]

What about Afghanistan? China? Iran?

What about them.

 

[otto105]

Why is the territorial integrity of Ukraine, which has lay down under its new masters, sacred, but the territorial integrity of independent Yugoslavia is not?
How does the State Department explain this phenomenon, apart from "Thisisacompletelydifferent!" chant?
Hypocrisy?

That's correct republic pols supported Yugoslavia genocide too because of our domestic politics under Clinton.