Grievance Culture

[Missouri_Mike]

In America today, we are living with a grievance culture based on false perceptions, false beliefs, and zero-sum thinking. It is a culture that best threatens to change this country from a democracy to an authoritarian fascist style government or in the worst case scenario, destroy the country completely.

Grievance politics is defined by the fueling and funneling of negative emotions and various blame-based political strategies which explicitly challenge and confound many of the core principles and values that have traditionally underpinned conventional conceptions of party politics. (Flinders and Hinterleitner 2022: 1)​

https://philpapers.org/archive/KATGPA-6.pdf

Republicans Want to Make White Grievance Genteel Again​

In the face of Trump's crude racism, some conservatives are practically begging for a return to the good old days of dog whistles.​

But for marginalized people who have been on the receiving end of the long-standing Republican racism and fury, Stevens’s claims about a party set tragically adrift by a racist opportunist was a gross oversimplification of political reality. Trump’s particular style of white grievance may be different in presentation from what came before him, but the party Stevens is mourning spent decades building the scaffolding he used to climb to the presidency. Republicans like Stevens aren’t sounding the alarm on an emerging moral crisis—they’re fighting back a public relations nightmare.

In her book White Rage: The Unspoken Truth of Our Nation’s Divide, Dr. Carol Anderson wrote that white rage is not only about visible violence, “but rather it works its way through the courts, the legislatures, and a range of government bureaucracies. It wreaks havoc subtly, almost imperceptibly.” Ever since the Dixiecrats switched allegiances, white grievance and anger have formed both the base and the primary political motivation of the Republican Party. Trump has decades of examples to draw from—and he has.

When Trump declared himself the “law and order candidate,” he was echoing Richard Nixon, using a 50-year-old dog whistle from his predecessor’s 1968 campaign. Trump’s use of “anchor babies” and his administration’s “public charge” reforms to further restrict immigration are directly tied to and an extension of Ronald Reagan’s racialized battle over welfare reform and his rhetoric around the “welfare queen.” When Trump referred to Haiti and African nations as “shithole countries,” it sounded an awful lot like a recently unearthed conversation between Nixon and Reagan, in which Reagan called African delegates to the United Nations “monkeys from those African countries” who are “still uncomfortable wearing shoes.”

The Trump administration’s major accomplishments—the takeover of the Supreme Court; the stacking of lower courts with conservative judges; the upheaval of the immigration system; the unceasing attacks on civil rights, LGBTQ rights, and reproductive rights—are actually the product of decades of Republican organizing and strategizing toward this moment. Trump was a calculated risk the party was willing to take, the battering ram that would make its wildest conservative dreams a reality.

Republicans Want to Make White Grievance Genteel Again

In the face of Trump's crude racism, some conservatives are practically begging for a return to the good old days of dog whistles.

newrepublic.com

The grievance culture is not new, it has been here since the end of slavery. It was the grievance culture that implemented Jim Crow and Jim Crow was carried out on a bipartisan basis. Today is a result of the grievance culture plotting and planning to be able to get control of the courts and change the laws t take us backwards. They found a willing stooge in Trump told him what judges to pick and here we are. The same grievance culture crafted Project 2025.

DEI is over *****. Deal with it.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

I don't have to show you any experience with white racism t justify myself. Look around in this forum, you will see all you want.


I don't push grievance culture. Your claim is another example of white racist gaslighting. Trump and MAGA push grievance culture. Whites like you whine about rights they haven't lost. Whites like you whine about DEI even though you are overrepresented in everything, and it has nothing to do with merit. We have legit grievances, son. And until they are righted, the fight continues. Stop listening and repeating white race hustlers, junior.

Everything you post is grievance. You can’t even ******* function without the oppression Olympics.

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Actually, the MAGA bowel movement is because whites, specificaly white males are not getting their way. Again we see projection from the problem culture in America. Whites created racial classifications. Whites are the ones who decided race would be the determinat of citzenship. Whites have long been treated as a group chracterized by their racecia classifications. Whites have the highest crime rate, whites have excluded others from upward mobiity, and whites get way with crime non whites get felonies for. An example is the president. I mean the level of mental illness in the qute is extreme. Whites have never judged people by the cntent of their character, it has always been about the color of skin. Its funny how some of the mently ill whites like the guy qouted think they can repeat a phrase over and over and over and that somehow erases the histry and present of this country. Here we see another example of why some blacks call whites devils.

And its pathetic how mentaly ill whites like the one I qouted here cannot discuss the things they do to **** up this country and alway try reciting the same dumb ass racist lies.

You are one unhinged ******* clown.

 

[Missourian]

Whites have the highest crime rate

Me: Gemini, how do I explain to an obstinate individual why 13% of the population committing 37% of crime is a far worse statistic than 67% of the population committing 60% of crime even though 60% is more than 37%?

Keep in mind, he's a little dense, lies a lot, and is full of the self confidence of the ignorant.

Gemini: Here's a way to explain this, breaking it down into simple concepts:


"Okay, so let's think about this using a really simple example, like two groups of people, apples and oranges, and how many times they 'borrow' a pen without asking.


Imagine Group A (the 'apples') makes up a small part of our classroom – let's say they're only 13% of all the students. But out of all the times pens go missing, 37% of those missing pens were last seen with an 'apple.'


Now, Group B (the 'oranges') makes up most of the classroom – 67% of the students. And they were last seen with 60% of all the missing pens.


At first glance, it looks like the 'oranges' are responsible for more missing pens overall (60% vs. 37%).


But here's the key: There are way fewer 'apples' than 'oranges.'


Think of it this way:


- If there are only 13 apples, and they're involved in 37% of the pen disappearances, each individual 'apple' is involved in a lot of pen disappearances on average.

- If there are 67 oranges, and they're involved in 60% of the pen disappearances, each individual 'orange' is involved in fewer pen disappearances on average, simply because there are so many more of them to spread those 60% across.


So, even though the 'oranges' might be linked to more missing pens in total, the rate at which 'apples' are involved in missing pens, per person, is much, much higher. It's like if one person robs 10 banks, and 100 people rob 1 bank each. The one person is a much more prolific bank robber, even though the 100 people collectively robbed more banks."


To make it even more concrete, you could use simplified numbers if your friend is good with them:


"Let's imagine a town of 100 people to make the math easy.


- Group 1 (13% of the population): That's 13 people.

- Group 2 (67% of the population): That's 67 people.


Now for the crimes:


- If there are 100 violent crimes total:

- Group 1 commits 37%: So, 37 crimes are committed by Group 1 members.

- Group 2 commits 60%: So, 60 crimes are committed by Group 2 members.


Now, let's look at crimes per person:


- For Group 1: 37 crimes / 13 people = roughly 2.85 crimes per person.

- For Group 2: 60 crimes / 67 people = roughly 0.89 crimes per person.


See? Even though Group 2 commits more total crimes (60 vs. 37), each person in Group 1 commits almost three times as many violent crimes on average compared to each person in Group 2. That's what 'per person by a huge margin' means."


Key takeaways to emphasize:


- Total numbers vs. per capita/per person rates: These are different ways of looking at data and can tell very different stories.

- Proportion matters: When a smaller group accounts for a disproportionately large share of something, it means the individuals within that smaller group are engaging in that activity at a much higher rate."

 

[IM2]

And these posts from the usul suspects are prme examples of the white grievance culture.

 

[IM2]

You are one unhinged ******* clown.

Nope, what I am is right. And you can't take it.

 

[IM2]

Me: Gemini, how do I explain to an obstinate individual why 13% of the population committing 37% of crime is a far worse statistic than 67% of the population committing 60% of crime even though 60% is more than 37%?

Keep in mind, he's a little dense, lies a lot, and is full of the self confidence of the ignorant.

Gemini: Here's a way to explain this, breaking it down into simple concepts:


"Okay, so let's think about this using a really simple example, like two groups of people, apples and oranges, and how many times they 'borrow' a pen without asking.


Imagine Group A (the 'apples') makes up a small part of our classroom – let's say they're only 13% of all the students. But out of all the times pens go missing, 37% of those missing pens were last seen with an 'apple.'


Now, Group B (the 'oranges') makes up most of the classroom – 67% of the students. And they were last seen with 60% of all the missing pens.


At first glance, it looks like the 'oranges' are responsible for more missing pens overall (60% vs. 37%).


But here's the key: There are way fewer 'apples' than 'oranges.'


Think of it this way:


- If there are only 13 apples, and they're involved in 37% of the pen disappearances, each individual 'apple' is involved in a lot of pen disappearances on average.

- If there are 67 oranges, and they're involved in 60% of the pen disappearances, each individual 'orange' is involved in fewer pen disappearances on average, simply because there are so many more of them to spread those 60% across.


So, even though the 'oranges' might be linked to more missing pens in total, the rate at which 'apples' are involved in missing pens, per person, is much, much higher. It's like if one person robs 10 banks, and 100 people rob 1 bank each. The one person is a much more prolific bank robber, even though the 100 people collectively robbed more banks."


To make it even more concrete, you could use simplified numbers if your friend is good with them:


"Let's imagine a town of 100 people to make the math easy.


- Group 1 (13% of the population): That's 13 people.

- Group 2 (67% of the population): That's 67 people.


Now for the crimes:


- If there are 100 violent crimes total:

- Group 1 commits 37%: So, 37 crimes are committed by Group 1 members.

- Group 2 commits 60%: So, 60 crimes are committed by Group 2 members.


Now, let's look at crimes per person:


- For Group 1: 37 crimes / 13 people = roughly 2.85 crimes per person.

- For Group 2: 60 crimes / 67 people = roughly 0.89 crimes per person.


See? Even though Group 2 commits more total crimes (60 vs. 37), each person in Group 1 commits almost three times as many violent crimes on average compared to each person in Group 2. That's what 'per person by a huge margin' means."


Key takeaways to emphasize:


- Total numbers vs. per capita/per person rates: These are different ways of looking at data and can tell very different stories.

- Proportion matters: When a smaller group accounts for a disproportionately large share of something, it means the individuals within that smaller group are engaging in that activity at a much higher rate."

Blah, blah blah. Whites commit the most crime. Why do you amateurs keep on trying this stump stupid crap. Just over 2 percent of the overall population are criminal offenders. So 13 percent aren't doing anything. Out of that 2 percent, 1.09 percent of the population are white criminal offenders. .06 percent of the population are black criminal offenders. If you take arrests, the percentage of blacks who are arrested is 1 percent of the population. Whites who are arrested are 2.5 percent of the population. But this thread is not about crime. But since you are part of the problem, you regurgitate that same dumb, tired, trifling, debunked garbage thinking you're making some kind of point.

 

[Missourian]

whites have excluded others from upward mobiity,

"This is a story about horrors. I wish it weren’t. No other way of telling it approaches the truth. Richmond Elementary was a horror. I was a horrible teacher. I am sure that some people will read my story as “victim blaming” or “poverty porn,” as perpetuating an image of inner-city Black communities as defective or dangerous that is often used for nefarious political purposes. For just this reason, we were cautioned on several occasions by TFA (Teach for America) higher-ups not to stress the negatives when sharing our experiences from the classroom. But I really don’t buy that anymore. Yes, the layers of hierarchy, responsibility and power that surround the horror matter, but the horror itself matters more. We must talk about the horror. "

Taught For America

A Chronicle of Failure

wesleyyang.substack.com

 

[Mac1958]

Yes, it is a grievance culture that is coming from the Right. But it is also a reaction to the grievance culture that came from the Left.

Both have/had merit to a degree, but both have been overplayed. And now, together, they just drown everything else out.

The ends of the spectrum never seem to seriously consider the potential downsides to their tactics. And now, here we are.

 

[Missourian]

Blah, blah blah. Whites commit the most crime. Why do you amateurs keep on trying this stump stupid crap. Just over 2 percent of the overall population are criminal offenders. So 13 percent aren't doing anything. Out of that 2 percent, 1.09 percent of the population are white criminal offenders. .06 percent of the population are black criminal offenders. If you take arrests, the percentage of blacks who are arrested is 1 percent of the population. Whites who are arrested are 2.5 percent of the population. But this thread is not about crime. But since you are part of the problem, you regurgitate that same dumb, tired, trifling, debunked garbage thinking you're making some kind of point.

One out of every three Black men in America have a felony conviction. That's not 2%... That's 33.4%

 

[OODA_Loop]

I have plenty of credibility. What you think means nothing to me. You're here reading the racism and contributing to it, yet you want somebody to show you something. If you are like the idiot templar, you think that racism is only what happened during Jim Crow. A racist is the president. He is implementing racist policies. He has eliminated orders that gave non-whites civil rights. There are just a few examples of white racism. You have seen them but still want s somebody to show your white ass something. **** you.

So nothing to support your assertion as I predicted.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

 

[Missourian]

Yes, it is a grievance culture that is coming from the Right. But it is also a reaction to the grievance culture that came from the Left.

Both have/had merit to a degree, but both have been overplayed. And now, together, they just drown everything else out.

The ends of the spectrum never seem to seriously consider the potential downsides to their tactics. And now, here we are.

Fake news.

It's the Victim Olympics on the left and the Common Sense Culture coming from the Right.

Examples of common sense culture:

Don't cut off your genitals.

If you feel you must cut off your genitalia, wait until your old enough to buy cigarettes and vote.

Don't murder your unborn children.

If you feel you must murder your unborn children, do it before they can feel pain, not when they are days or hours from being born.

Men, keep your hairy asses out of female spaces, like locker rooms and bathrooms. I don't care if you identify as football ******* ferret. Stay the **** out.

Men, you can't compete against women in women's sports. If you have a dick or ever had a dick, you're excluded. Feel free to compete against the men at your discretion. Will you be at a disadvantage? Yes... but it's a disadvantage you chose with all the ramifications that choice entailed.

Foreign nationals, stay the **** out unless we invite you. Borders aren't imaginary lines. If you don't believe us, we'll gladly prove our point on any non-G7 border in the world. We'll be happy to drop you off at any one of them. Good luck.

Education. If you **** around and don't get one, you're going to find out you just made your struggle 1,000 times harder. The penalty is there is very little chance you'll escape your socio-economic circumstances. If you are poor, that free education is your ticket out. If you must fight, fight the people that interfere with that education. If you must steal, steal text books and school supplies. No one will ever put you prison for that.

Aside from the one stipulation above, crime doesn't pay. Stay conviction free.

Protest! It's your right, and we'll defend it! Looting isn't protesting. Fighting the police isn't protesting. Setting cars on fire isn't protesting. Breaking windows isn't protesting (even if it's the US Capitol). Blocking traffic isn't protesting. All that negative attention only detract and dilutes your message.

Facts don't care about your feelings. You may feel deportation is morally wrong... but the fact is the penalty for entering the US illegally is deportation.

And that's just for starters.

 

[Hollie]

That's what I say each day I face white racism. It must be awful to have to read something critical of whites. Oh, what pain and terrible oppression.. It's got to be far more painful than being denied equal status by the application of law.

When white racism ends, this ends. Work to end it.

You are the model for black grievance culture based on false perceptions. This is to be expected from a goofy white guy posing as a black racist.

 

[DonGlock26]

BLM aren't grevance mongers.

 

[ThisIsMe]

I'm not Mexican, and your racism is unhealthy. So you watch the cat video and find a way to erase your racism. Your comments are why some blocks say whites are devils. Your attitude is pure evil, and to attempt to gaslight knowing that you practice the racism you're trying to gaslight me about is shameful.

Mexican man, whats unhealthy is your constant obsession with consuming materials that twists you up inside like this. It appears to be all you do.

Do tell, what racism am I practicing, Mexican man?

 

[AZrailwhale]

Everything you post is grievance. You can’t even ******* function without the oppression Olympics.

He claims to have made a living at it running several NGOs and sucking at the taxpayer's teat.