Greenland ice melt worse than previously believed

[Crick]

Yawn

Figgers.

 

[elektra]

Figgers.

You need evidence of the political affiliations of our fulltime student univeristy class of citizens?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Why do the Vatican City and the Falkland Islands produce so much less CO2 than does China? Could it be because of the population difference? Ignoring the point that China has about four times as many people as the US is about as disingenuous as you could get. I'll ask you the same question I asked Todd. What do you think China should do differently?

And even if they somehow matched US emissions, would you actually change your views on this?

Neither of those countries have an industrial base. China has yet to acquire the same carbon-based industries as the US and most of their fuel is imported. Same for India, although they are further behind. Both are catching up rapidly simply because of their populations. They have no concern with CO2 as evidenced by their lack of reducing their production. The recent agreements grant them exemptions because of their second-world status, while we pay the most.

China can stop building coal plants on a weekly basis and pursue higher cost alternatives if CO2 is the problem. Since I believe higher CO2 is unrelated to global warming, they really don't have to anything except choke on their own polluted air.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I'd like to see some evidence that university faculties are largely democratic and that they exhibit some bias in their teaching. That is, I'd like to see some evidence that you aren't simply lying again.

It is a well-known fact that academia is exceptionally libera l with the exception of business and engineering. Are you denying this well-known fact or just learning it? My education professors were all liberals when I went to graduate school. My engineering teachers in my undergraduate classes were all conservatives.

One of my graduate school professors was an interesting fellow. He was a tall, thin West Texan with snow white shoulder length hair he wore in a ponytail. He dressed like he was an extra in some Old Western shoot-em-up movie, and he was politically somewhere to the left of Karl Marx. Despite his flaming liberal attitude, he respected others' views, and he was one of my favorite professors because he would debate you on topics and was honest when you beat him. He respected our opinions that were different than his, as long as we backed them up, and never hurt our grades because we disagreed with him.

 

[Crick]

It is a well-known fact that academia is exceptionally libera l with the exception of business and engineering. Are you denying this well-known fact or just learning it? My education professors were all liberals when I went to graduate school. My engineering teachers in my undergraduate classes were all conservatives.

One of my graduate school professors was an interesting fellow. He was a tall, thin West Texan with snow white shoulder length hair he wore in a ponytail. He dressed like he was an extra in some Old Western shoot-em-up movie, and he was politically somewhere to the left of Karl Marx. Despite his flaming liberal attitude, he respected others' views, and he was one of my favorite professors because he would debate you on topics and was honest when you beat him. He respected our opinions that were different than his, as long as we backed them up, and never hurt our grades because we disagreed with him.

I went looking myself and found this.

Political views of American academics - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Which details several studies and surveys that conclude academia is more liberal than the general public. That this produces a bias in education, however, has not been demonstrated.

 

[elektra]

I went looking myself and found this.

Political views of American academics - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Which details several studies and surveys that conclude academia is more liberal than the general public. That this produces a bias in education, however, has not been demonstrated.

Hahaha, no bias, please

 

[Crick]

Hahaha, no bias, please

I think it's a clear indication that liberalism and knowledge go hand in hand... and vice versa, that conservatism and ignorance are two peas in a pod.

 

[elektra]

I think it's a clear indication that liberalism and knowledge go hand in hand... and vice versa, that conservatism and ignorance are two peas in a pod.

Peas in a pod are nutritiuos, I must say I like the idea of fresh peas right out of the pod.

 

[Redfish]

Then why are you using Gore in an attempt to over turn science?

I have no idea what book he wrote. I am familiar with all six IPCC Assessment Reports, though. You?

Actually, I'm sure he has a great deal more than do you.

Who would that be? I get hit up to contribute to charities and to political causes all the time. But no one has ever asked me to donate money to fight global warming. Has someone asked you? If so, who?

It IS likely too late to avoid serious global warming and serious consequences. That would be your fault.

your lunacy is confirmed.

 

[Crick]

your lunacy is confirmed.

By what?

 

[Redfish]

By what?

your continual belief in the AGW hoax

 

[ding]

I think it's a clear indication that liberalism and knowledge go hand in hand... and vice versa, that conservatism and ignorance are two peas in a pod.

I always saw modern liberals as driven by emotions.

 

[Crick]

your continual belief in the AGW hoax

Even though mountains of evidence and virtually every scientist on the planet say we should and virtually no one and no evidence says we shouldn't, you think I'M the lunatic?

 

[elektra]

Even though mountains of evidence and virtually every scientist on the planet say we should and virtually no one and no evidence says we shouldn't, you think I'M the lunatic?

No, a small group of full time students do not speak for every scientist. The student's study is propaganda in this case

 

[ding]

Even though mountains of evidence and virtually every scientist on the planet say we should and virtually no one and no evidence says we shouldn't, you think I'M the lunatic?

You mean evidence that shows the planet warms when the northern hemisphere deglaciates? Yes, there's tons of that.

 

[elektra]

You mean evidence that shows the planet warms when the northern hemisphere deglaciates? Yes, there's tons of that.

Do you have a study by 6 full time students who after reading the titles of a dozen science papers dictate that all scientists agree. Cause you know, that is what ebidence really is.

 

[Crick]

Do you have a study by 6 full time students who after reading the titles of a dozen science papers dictate that all scientists agree. Cause you know, that is what ebidence really is.

Liar.

 

[elektra]

Liar.

A study by a small group of people based on published papers claiming everyone agrees is a lie. Good to know

 

[Crick]

A study by a small group of people based on published papers claiming everyone agrees is a lie. Good to know

James L Powell surveyed 65,800 published papers. Powell was not a student at the time.

James Lawrence Powell (born July 17, 1936) is an American geologist, writer, former college president and museum director. He chaired the geology department at Oberlin College later serving as its provost and president. Powell also served as president of Franklin & Marshall College as well as Reed College. Following his positions in higher education, Powell presided over the Franklin Institute and the Natural History Museum of Los Angeles.

Powell served 12 years on the National Science Board and recently retired as executive director of Graduate Fellowships for Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics Diversity.[1]

 

[ding]

James L Powell surveyed 65,800 published papers. Powell was not a student at the time.

James Lawrence Powell (born July 17, 1936) is an American geologist, writer, former college president and museum director. He chaired the geology department at Oberlin College later serving as its provost and president. Powell also served as president of Franklin & Marshall College as well as Reed College. Following his positions in higher education, Powell presided over the Franklin Institute and the Natural History Museum of Los Angeles.

Powell served 12 years on the National Science Board and recently retired as executive director of Graduate Fellowships for Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics Diversity.[1]

And Newton believed that time was constant.