Green New Deal

[Flash]

All the stupid Democrats that have declared to be running for President in 2020 are supporting that crazy AOC Green Deal nonsense. LOL!

The Democrat Party is absolutely bat shit crazy nowadays. It has been taken over by the fringe Left in this country.

 

[Polishprince]

AOC didn't do all her homework, did she?

If Solar Panels Are So Clean, Why Do They Produce So Much Toxic Waste?

If Solar Panels Are So Clean, Why Do They Produce So Much Toxic Waste?

The last few years have seen growing concern over what happens to solar panels at the end of their life. Consider the following statements:

• The problem of solar panel disposal “will explode with full force in two or three decades and wreck the environment” because it “is a huge amount of waste and they are not easy to recycle.”
• “The reality is that there is a problem now, and it’s only going to get larger, expanding as rapidly as the PV industry expanded 10 years ago.”
• “Contrary to previous assumptions, pollutants such as lead or carcinogenic cadmium can be almost completely washed out of the fragments of solar modules over a period of several months, for example by rainwater.”

California should be taking the lead in reclamation technologies.

California has the most poverty, the worst schools, highest price of housing and the most debt.

They aren't the leader in anything except Left Wing failure.

we really just need a cost of living adjustment to fifteen dollars an hour;

capitalism can be wonderful for Labor, as well.

Outlawing the right of employers and employees to agree to a wage less than $15 isn't wonderful to anyone. This would be more than a doubling of minimum wages from 7.25. Why not double everyone's wages? Think how many more people will be able to drive around in Benz's and Beemers?

 

[22lcidw]

The Service economy was supposed to replace the Industrial economy and what a sell out that was. Solandra also gave us 5 dollar a gallon gas prices. Can you at least take the people that made money on that fiasco to be put on large solar panels and burnt to ashes? Can we agree on that? The world moves on after all.

With every stupid post you make you show us what an idiot you are. Please stop.

Someone told you that the service industry (waiters and waitresses) would replace manufacturing? And you thought thy were worth listening to?

Oh...

Solyndra gave us "5 dollar a gallon" gas prices? On what fucking planet did we ever HAVE 5 dollar a gallon gas prices and wtf did Solyndra have to do with gas prices ANyWAY you dolt...

Decades ago when the movement from an industrial economy to a service economy started we were told that this would bring tens of millions of high paying jobs. What happened is that it stalled at a certain point and low paying service jobs mushroomed around the nation. Around the same time of Solandra, cash for clunkers and the GM screwing happened with the slow down of oil drilling. I am tired of paying for your freaking agendas! I am trying survive like tens of millions of others above the poverty line but not eligible for benefits. An estimated minimum of ten million manufacturing jobs left this nation with those deals that ignited Asia into capitalist wealth. And we had near 5 dollar gas prices under Obama. You lie like a mutha!

 

[Polishprince]

All the stupid Democrats that have declared to be running for President in 2020 are supporting that crazy AOC Green Deal nonsense. LOL!

The Democrat Party is absolutely bat shit crazy nowadays. It has been taken over by the fringe Left in this country.

President Trump is going to schlong whoever the Democrats put up in 2020, its going to be pathetic.

Will make Reagan's crushing of Fritz Mondale in 1984 look like a close race.

Hopefully, it will return the Dems to the center.

 

[iceberg]

All the stupid Democrats that have declared to be running for President in 2020 are supporting that crazy AOC Green Deal nonsense. LOL!

The Democrat Party is absolutely bat shit crazy nowadays. It has been taken over by the fringe Left in this country.

when your enemy is making mistakes, do not interrupt them.
- napoleon

 

[easyt65]

Finding herself in a hole deeper than she is tall, AOC JUST KEEPS DIGGING....

From Today's Headlines:

"Fuzzy Math: Ocasio-Cortez wavers on whether her 'Green New Deal' will bust federal budget"

The cost originally thrown out for the complete conversion to Zero-Carbon-Emitting Green Energy, which would require a COMPLETE energy re-configuration while abandoning and dismantling nuclear, oil, coal, and natural gas energy to embrace the alternate energy-producing sources which provide only 11% of what we currently use now, was approx. $4.5 TRILLION in NEW DEBT...on top of the current debt we have. EVEN IF WHAT SHE PROPOSES TO DO WAS POSSIBLE - which it is realistically NOT, the ACTUAL experts have stated the price would be more like $7 TRILLION in new debt.

For the complete destruction of the health care system we have left (after Obama and the Democrats destroyed the previous existing health care system to force Americans into embracing Obamacare) - which would require stripping millions of Americans (approx 2.1 Million) of their current preferred health care programs and the implementation of the new Single Payer program, the cost is estimated to be approx. $35 TRILLION in new debt added. (Of course, as Obamacare demonstrated and as we all know with government spending, whatever the cost of programs run by the govt are projected to be it is always more...)

That would altogether be approx. $42 TRILLION in new debt added ... in / over a 10-year period.
-- The US Debt Clock shows the United States already owes almost $22 TRILLION....with our debt increasing approx. $900,000 every 10 seconds due to the interest owed and continuous spending. (That reminds me - can each one of you just cut the US Govt a check for $66,879 each so we can go ahead and wipe that debt off the books?)


Ocasio-Cortez wavers on whether her 'Green New Deal' will bust federal budget"

'Umm...several points:

1. The United States Budget IS ALREADY 'BUSTED'. We are approx. $22 TRILLION 'in the hole' - IN DEBT. I wish the politicians would stop acting like that was not the case, and I wish the media would not phrase sentences / things like this above to lull people into a false sense of .. 'God knows what ... like we are not 'BEYOND BROKE'.

2. Our government has NO PLAN to pay down / pay off the debt we already owe, let alone the amount AOC suggests we add - which is ALMOST TWICE what we currently owe.

When pressed on the cost of the 'Green New Deal', AOC was forced to admit that IF WE STOLE EVERY DIME (100% TAX on) the richest people in America have and IF WE STOLE EVERY RESOURCE owned by the richest corporations here in the United States, IT WOULD NOT EVEN COME CLOSE TO PAYNIG FOR THE COST of the Green New Deal.

....but Ocasio-Cortez wavers on whether her 'Green New Deal' will bust federal budget"

 

[danielpalos]

Her zero emission goal means eliminating every internal combustion engine in the United States.....

7 million Americans alone work in the auto I did try making, selling cars, parts, repair, etc.....not counting truck drivers, can drivers, etc....and millions of others who rely on automobiles...


You are talking about National Suicide....


Anyone still CONSIDERING listening to this psycho is NUTS.

Ever heard of electric vehicles?

Electric vehicles still need to be powered, and that will require a lot more power plants.

Although even if not another internal combustion engine were built beginning today, we would still have millions of older vehicles on the road in 10 years.

improvements in technology means we will be getting more renewable energy.

That's fair enough. But the GND is still stupid, gutting hundreds of millions of buildings and replacing the HVAC system within 10 years.

increasing the minimum wage means Labor could help pay for it.

 

[Flash]

This is what happen in Canada when the country went to Green Urine technology like the Democrats want here.

 

[Polishprince]

Her zero emission goal means eliminating every internal combustion engine in the United States.....

7 million Americans alone work in the auto I did try making, selling cars, parts, repair, etc.....not counting truck drivers, can drivers, etc....and millions of others who rely on automobiles...


You are talking about National Suicide....


Anyone still CONSIDERING listening to this psycho is NUTS.

Ever heard of electric vehicles?

Electric vehicles still need to be powered, and that will require a lot more power plants.

Although even if not another internal combustion engine were built beginning today, we would still have millions of older vehicles on the road in 10 years.

improvements in technology means we will be getting more renewable energy.

That's fair enough. But the GND is still stupid, gutting hundreds of millions of buildings and replacing the HVAC system within 10 years.

increasing the minimum wage means Labor could help pay for it.

Not at all. Increasing the minimum wage will reduce employment and reduce tax receipts. Further, people that do earn just $15 an hour don't pay much in taxes either

 

[Flash]

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increasing the minimum wage means Labor could help pay for it.

Capitalism will increase wages in the free market of labor. Government mandated wage only increases unemployment.

 

[danielpalos]

This is what happen in Canada when the country went to Green Urine technology like the Democrats want here.

Improving waste water reclamation technologies is something else, California can lead on.

 

[Polishprince]

This is what happen in Canada when the country went to Green Urine technology like the Democrats want here.

Spain has also gone all-in for green technology, and has 16% unemployment.

AOC promises nothing but grief for the American hoi polloi.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

California has the most poverty, the worst schools, highest price of housing and the most debt.
They aren't the leader in anything except Left Wing failure.

Imagine the future in California, after Socialist democrats have run all the big wealthy corporations away due to excessive and punishing taxation and regulations.

Right now California still benefits from massive revenue streams generated by the very corporations their Socialist dreams seek to dismantle. As the Left further embraces radicalism, at some point the corporations must decide between survival and their "politics".

Actually, the exodus has already begun.
https://www.bizjournals.com/bizjour...companies-left-california-in-a-year-with.html

 

[danielpalos]

Ever heard of electric vehicles?

Electric vehicles still need to be powered, and that will require a lot more power plants.

Although even if not another internal combustion engine were built beginning today, we would still have millions of older vehicles on the road in 10 years.

improvements in technology means we will be getting more renewable energy.

That's fair enough. But the GND is still stupid, gutting hundreds of millions of buildings and replacing the HVAC system within 10 years.

increasing the minimum wage means Labor could help pay for it.

Not at all. Increasing the minimum wage will reduce employment and reduce tax receipts. Further, people that do earn just $15 an hour don't pay much in taxes either

in the short run; in the long run; those employed will pay more in taxes and create more in demand.

why should we take the right wing more serious about economics than AOC?

 

[danielpalos]

[Q

increasing the minimum wage means Labor could help pay for it.

Capitalism will increase wages in the free market of labor. Government mandated wage only increases unemployment.

the right wing is funnier and more fantastical than AOC; free markets. Pure right wing fantasy in modern times.

 

[easyt65]

improvements in technology means we will be getting more renewable energy.

Elimination of oil, coal, natural gas, nuclear energy...in 10 years.
Going from 11% energy production / dependence on alternative energy to 100%...in 10 years.
Like Venezuela, shutting down vast energy wealth-making energy sources...in 10 years
Getting rid of the internal combustion engine completely...in 10 years.
Getting rid of all cars / trucks / vans/ SUVs / planes, trains, boats, etc...in 10 years.
Replacing them with ELECTRIC cars / ships / trains....in 10 years.
Building hundreds of thousands of re-charging stations for electric cars across the US...in 10 years.
Building Oceanic cross-continent RAILWAY LINES to eliminate the use of airplanes...in 10 years.

Even AOC admitted we would have to create and use technology that does not even exist yet...in 10 years.

 

[Toro]

The New Green Deal is what Full Retard looks like in politics.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Even the Chinese Communists are smart enough to know not to kill the Goose that lays the Golden Eggs.....

Not the American Socialist fools. In their abject ignorance, they truly believe that the Golden Goose is of no consequence and that their heavy taxation and confiscation of personal property will more than make up for the losses.

We clearly see the results of their lunacy in Venezuela.

 

[Polishprince]

[Q

increasing the minimum wage means Labor could help pay for it.

Capitalism will increase wages in the free market of labor. Government mandated wage only increases unemployment.

the right wing is funnier and more fantastical than AOC; free markets. Pure right wing fantasy in modern times.

Capitalism works. There is a reason why America is doing tremendously well, while in worker's paradises like Venezuela and Cuba are living in squalor, and eating garbage with people telling them what to do. Cuban immigrants know all about it, that's why they made the 90 mile trip.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Elimination of oil, coal, natural gas, nuclear energy...in 10 years.
Going from 11% energy production / dependence on alternative energy to 100%...in 10 years.
Like Venezuela, shutting down vast energy wealth-making energy sources...in 10 years
Getting rid of the internal combustion engine completely...in 10 years.
Getting rid of all cars / trucks / vans/ SUVs / planes, trains, boats, etc...in 10 years.
Replacing them with ELECTRIC cars / ships / trains....in 10 years.
Building hundreds of thousands of re-charging stations for electric cars across the US...in 10 years.
Building Oceanic cross-continent RAILWAY LINES to eliminate the use of airplanes...in 10 years.

Even AOC admitted we would have to create and use technology that does not even exist yet...in 10 years

And yet......
No matter how ludicrous it all is.....

They are steadily creating the numbers and voting blocs necessary to make it all happen. One Congressional seat at a time.
One more indoctrinated uneducated Millennial moron at a time.

All while we sit back laughing and mocking their stupidity.