Thinker101
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Nothing to show for it? I'm sure you were the main complainer when Obama pissed it all away.
Go back to sleep...dumbass.
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Nothing to show for it? I'm sure you were the main complainer when Obama pissed it all away.
Go back to sleep...dumbass.
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Why, yes I was...from day one till the day he left office.
What do we have to show for the 1.48 trillion dollars that was added to the debt last year? Did we get some infrastructure work done? The DOD budget went up by about about 54 billion, so where did the other .94 trillion go?
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If adding debt makes you a idiot then obama is the king moron.
First its not just about debt . to convert over to all greennenergy in 10 years would require a mircle and a lot more then 7 trillion.
Were not just talking a few million light bulbs but the power of all our homes and industry.
It cant be done in 10 years. Its impossible.
We dont have the trained skilled labor to do it or the money
Next the loss of jobs would be catastrophic. All the jobs in current power plants the natural gas industry oil coal mining .
Green energy has limitations also. In the dead of winter say january when were having sub zero cold or summer when a heat wave hits you cant make the sun put out more. Sorry meat head but with 370 million people sicking energy it wont work.
It would take decades to train a work force aquire land and materials and do the building of solar wind hydro electric and geo thermal which by the way has riskes associated with it that i wont even go into
easyt65
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Pelosi hasn't forgotten that AOC began her political career as a newly elected House member by joining a sit-in protest in her new 'Speaker of the House' office...and is giving little respect back.
'Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., is set to release her much-touted “Green New Deal” on Thursday -- a package of far-reaching, big-government proposals like health care for all, federal job guarantees and a push to eliminate U.S. carbon emissions'...and Pelosi has already 'thrown shade' on it.
(FYI, to be clear - 'Throw Shade' on something is slang for "subtle, sneering expression of contempt for or disgust with someone—sometimes verbal, and sometimes not")
When asked about AOC's 'Green New Deal', Pelosi responded by saying:
"It will be one of several or maybe many suggestions that we receive. The green dream or whatever they call it, nobody knows what it is, but they’re for it right?”
'The ding by Pelosi comes just as Ocasio-Cortez and Sen. Ed Markey, D-Mass., are teasing the ambitious deal and set to unveil it at a Thursday afternoon press conference. The measure is currently in a form of a non-binding resolution -- meaning even if it passes it won’t do anything.'
I believe that is what they call 'Political Theater'!
What is does do is provide the Democratic Party's Fear-Mongering 'Doom & Gloom' vision of America, as THEY see it right now, and how disastrous life as we know it will be if 'we' don't embrace the Democrats plan to save the world / America that is coming.
"The resolution paints a grim view of present-day America, saying it is “experiencing several related crises” including declining life expectancy, economic stagnation, erosion of worker bargaining power, increasing income inequality and the exacerbation of “systemic racial, regional, social, environmental and economic injustices.”
"It goes on to say that “a new national social, industrial and economic mobilization on a scale not seen since World War II and the New Deal” is an opportunity to tackle systemic injustices of minority groups, create millions of high-wage jobs and “provide unprecedented levels of prosperity and economic security for all people of the United States.”
Funny, President Trump has already done all of that, without the 'Tales From The Crypt' scare tactics and without the massive Socialist over-haul of the country that AOC's plan calls for at the cost of approx. $42 TRILLION in new debt added over about 10 years (Approx $35 Trillion for 'Single Payer' govt-mandated/run health care that would strip 2.1 million Americans of their existing preferred health care plans + approx. $7 Trillion in 'infrastructure and social justice projects).
Basically the bill is Al Gore's Global Warming wet dream on steroids combined with the Socialist Leftist Extremists' rush to make American Venezuela:
"While the resolution does not get into detailed policy proposals, possibly fueling Pelosi’s skepticism about what the nuts and bolts of the plan actually are, it does lay out the aims of the plan. They include “net-zero greenhouse gas emissions through a fair and just transition for all communities and workers;” job creation; infrastructure investment; guarantees of clean water, healthy food and sustainable environment; and a curiously undefined “access to nature.”
"Mother Nature has awakened so many Americans to the urgent threat of the climate crisis, and this proposal responds to the growing concern and demand for action," he said. "The goals are ambitious and comprehensive – now the work begins to decide the best ways to achieve them, with specific policy solutions tied to timelines."
So, after the cataclysmic picture of life in America if we do not embrace their radical Socialist Global Warming nightmare (The 'Green DREAM' , as Pelosi called it ), will it save us from a horrific Global Warming Apocalypse? Will adding $42+ Trillion in new debt in the next 10 years save us , save the world, and solve Global Warming?
According to AOC, the architect of this 'Socialist Suicide', NO!
"Even the solutions that we have considered big and bold are nowhere near the scale of the actual problem that climate change presents to us.”
Pelosi throws shade as Green New Deal unveiled: ‘Green dream or whatever they call it’
So far Pelosi has scoffed at the 'Green Dream'....thank God.
'Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y., is set to release her much-touted “Green New Deal” on Thursday -- a package of far-reaching, big-government proposals like health care for all, federal job guarantees and a push to eliminate U.S. carbon emissions'...and Pelosi has already 'thrown shade' on it.
(FYI, to be clear - 'Throw Shade' on something is slang for "subtle, sneering expression of contempt for or disgust with someone—sometimes verbal, and sometimes not")
When asked about AOC's 'Green New Deal', Pelosi responded by saying:
"It will be one of several or maybe many suggestions that we receive. The green dream or whatever they call it, nobody knows what it is, but they’re for it right?”
'The ding by Pelosi comes just as Ocasio-Cortez and Sen. Ed Markey, D-Mass., are teasing the ambitious deal and set to unveil it at a Thursday afternoon press conference. The measure is currently in a form of a non-binding resolution -- meaning even if it passes it won’t do anything.'
I believe that is what they call 'Political Theater'!
What is does do is provide the Democratic Party's Fear-Mongering 'Doom & Gloom' vision of America, as THEY see it right now, and how disastrous life as we know it will be if 'we' don't embrace the Democrats plan to save the world / America that is coming.
"The resolution paints a grim view of present-day America, saying it is “experiencing several related crises” including declining life expectancy, economic stagnation, erosion of worker bargaining power, increasing income inequality and the exacerbation of “systemic racial, regional, social, environmental and economic injustices.”
"It goes on to say that “a new national social, industrial and economic mobilization on a scale not seen since World War II and the New Deal” is an opportunity to tackle systemic injustices of minority groups, create millions of high-wage jobs and “provide unprecedented levels of prosperity and economic security for all people of the United States.”
Funny, President Trump has already done all of that, without the 'Tales From The Crypt' scare tactics and without the massive Socialist over-haul of the country that AOC's plan calls for at the cost of approx. $42 TRILLION in new debt added over about 10 years (Approx $35 Trillion for 'Single Payer' govt-mandated/run health care that would strip 2.1 million Americans of their existing preferred health care plans + approx. $7 Trillion in 'infrastructure and social justice projects).
Basically the bill is Al Gore's Global Warming wet dream on steroids combined with the Socialist Leftist Extremists' rush to make American Venezuela:
"While the resolution does not get into detailed policy proposals, possibly fueling Pelosi’s skepticism about what the nuts and bolts of the plan actually are, it does lay out the aims of the plan. They include “net-zero greenhouse gas emissions through a fair and just transition for all communities and workers;” job creation; infrastructure investment; guarantees of clean water, healthy food and sustainable environment; and a curiously undefined “access to nature.”
"Mother Nature has awakened so many Americans to the urgent threat of the climate crisis, and this proposal responds to the growing concern and demand for action," he said. "The goals are ambitious and comprehensive – now the work begins to decide the best ways to achieve them, with specific policy solutions tied to timelines."
So, after the cataclysmic picture of life in America if we do not embrace their radical Socialist Global Warming nightmare (The 'Green DREAM' , as Pelosi called it
), will it save us from a horrific Global Warming Apocalypse? Will adding $42+ Trillion in new debt in the next 10 years save us , save the world, and solve Global Warming? According to AOC, the architect of this 'Socialist Suicide', NO!
"Even the solutions that we have considered big and bold are nowhere near the scale of the actual problem that climate change presents to us.”
Pelosi throws shade as Green New Deal unveiled: ‘Green dream or whatever they call it’
So far Pelosi has scoffed at the 'Green Dream'....thank God.
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I wonder if they will pass this 62 times to match the number of times the Repubs voted to abolish ObamaCare knowing it would never make it out of the House.
easyt65
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From the sound of it, if Pelosi has her way it will never make it to the House floor once, since AOC is in her 'dog house'
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From the sound of it, if Pelosi has her way it will never make it to the House floor once, since AOC is in her 'dog house'
Nancy is a righty compared to AOC and her gang!
easyt65
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Pelosi Leaves AOC Out In The Cold On Global Warming
Another Pelosi Slam To AOC, Despite AOC Unveiling Her Global Warming Solution / Plan - The Green New Deal:
Pelosi names Dems to new climate panel — but not AOC
"House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) on Thursday named eight Democrats to the new special climate change committee, but Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez(N.Y.) was not among them.
The panel, which is charged with examining climate change and steps to mitigate it, will include lawmakers with a wide range of tenures, including three freshmen."
Another Pelosi Slam To AOC, Despite AOC Unveiling Her Global Warming Solution / Plan - The Green New Deal:
Pelosi names Dems to new climate panel — but not AOC
"House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) on Thursday named eight Democrats to the new special climate change committee, but Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez(N.Y.) was not among them.
The panel, which is charged with examining climate change and steps to mitigate it, will include lawmakers with a wide range of tenures, including three freshmen."
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https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/5729035/Green-New-Deal-FAQ.pdf
some very nice bits from here:
Economic environment free of monopolies
Economic security for all who are unable or unwilling to work
Healthy food (lets make sure to call this out)
Restore all our damaged and threatened ecosystems
Guarantee a job with family-sustaining wages (got this one in several times)
Upgrade or replace every building in US for state-of-the-art energy efficiency
reality nowhere to be seen.
some very nice bits from here:
Economic environment free of monopolies
Economic security for all who are unable or unwilling to work
Healthy food (lets make sure to call this out)
Restore all our damaged and threatened ecosystems
Guarantee a job with family-sustaining wages (got this one in several times)
Upgrade or replace every building in US for state-of-the-art energy efficiency
reality nowhere to be seen.
Oddball
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Watermelons.
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You have to give her credit, she has managed to make Pelosi look like a far right wingnut!!
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we need to improve material reclamation and repurposing technologies. California should be making money reclaiming and repurposing material to reduce waste in landfills.
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there are times you think we've reached extreme idiocy and we simply can't get any worse.
You have to give her credit, she has managed to make Pelosi look like a far right wingnut!!
then someone comes along and resets the standard of extreme stupidity.
Bootney Lee Farnsworth
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Including government monopolies?
That pretty much rules out socialism.
Does she know?
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um...this is AOC here. if it FEELS right, it is. facts need not interfere with feelz.
Bootney Lee Farnsworth
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I don't have a problem with doing that. A private company needs to find a way to make it work and profitable.
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